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Started by Yamahammer1200, March 24, 2016, 10:29:32 PM

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aviationfred

I use a Vance & Hines PowerPak. I found a used one and have been using it for a bit over a year. No problems and it works very well. These are hard to come by as they are no longer in production and there is no manufacturer support.

In 4 years, I have seen 2 show up on eBay.

I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Pat Conlon

Quote from: flips on March 28, 2016, 03:37:21 AM

Any one tried this ignition before?  :scratch_one-s_head:


Yes, I tried a Hyperpac on my '84, a couple of points: 1) No sidestand switch circuit 2) Does not play nice with the tach....makes it go wacky.

I went back to the oem box. 
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

flips

Hi Pat.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 28, 2016, 10:29:02 AM

Yes, I tried a Hyperpac on my '84, a couple of points: 1) No sidestand switch circuit 2) Does not play nice with the tach....makes it go wacky.

I went back to the oem box. 
Thanks for the info. I shall steer clear  :yes:
Quote
1) No sidestand switch circuit


Did you install a sidestand switch on your 84 or is that just an observation on the Hyperpac?.Never was a sidestand switch on my 86.


Cheers  :drinks:

Jeff P
Stay rubber side down.

Pat Conlon

Hey Jeff, yep, I recently learned of this: The Aussie FJ's have no sidestand switch. Perhaps why the New Zealand HyperPac has no provision for this circuit.

All the USA models and *I think* the Canadian FJ's have the sidestand switch. The normally closed circuit goes to the oem ignitor box, when the sidestand is down, it compresses the switch and opens this circuit and shuts off power to the box.**

I use my sidestand switch all the time, it's how I shut my bike off. That way I know my sidestand is in the down position before I dismount.
(don't ask)

Although I've been known to walk away and leave my key on.  :dash1:

I thought it was no big deal not having the sidestand switch, but I did miss it. Call me a creature of habit

** I was thinking to splice this sidestand switch circuit in to the ground feed on the HyperPac, but it was not that easy.
I needed to figure out the logic on how the sidestand switch circuit plays with the neutral switch circuit.
My sidestand can be down (circuit open) but if the bike is in neutral, it can start and run.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Arnie

Pat,

I don't know if the early Aus FJs had no sidestand switch, but my '91 certainly did.
Be interesting to hear from the others on this list with ADR plated bikes if they had switches.

Pat Conlon

Yea, I remember you guys talking about the early FJ's (84-87?) not having the switch.
The discussion came up when we were talking about extended side stands.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

oldktmdude

Quote from: Arnie on March 28, 2016, 07:49:47 PM
Pat,

I don't know if the early Aus FJs had no sidestand switch, but my '91 certainly did.
Be interesting to hear from the others on this list with ADR plated bikes if they had switches.

Arnie, I've had two 85's and neither had a switch or provision for mounting one. Alf's just bought an '85 and the same goes for his, no switch.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

theLeopard

1992 FJ1200

Quote from: George"It is What It Is Until It Ain't Anymore"

FJmonkey

The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Yamahammer1200

Alright, the DYNA seems to be the problem, based upon the feedback.
I do like the unit, so I will talk to them about a replacement.  I don't have the OEM igniter.
The unit sits on the right side, under the interior trim panel, above the upper vent screen.
Is there a better (cooler) location?
Chrome don't get you home.
1989 FJ1200

Shane4371

Their was a discussion in fb about dyna ignitions.most had bad reviews for our fjs

Harvy

Quote from: Yamahammer1200 on March 29, 2016, 07:57:23 PM

Is there a better (cooler) location?

Yes the harness is long enough to allow it to sit in the tail section beside the tool roll.
Mine sits in a stubby cooler in there to provide some water protection.
Its been there for around 6 or 7 years now and I have had no problems at all.

Harvy
FJZ1 1200 - It'll do me just fine.
Timing has much to do with the success of a rain dance.

Yamahammer1200

Harvy, I'll see if that works.
You'll have to explain to a Yankee what a 'stubby cooler' is, though.
Thanks
Chrome don't get you home.
1989 FJ1200

Arnie

I think you call it a "coozie".
Piece of neoprene wet suit material that allows you to hold a cold can of beverage.
Frequently as advertising printed on it.

FJ1100mjk

Quote from: Harvy on March 29, 2016, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: Yamahammer1200 on March 29, 2016, 07:57:23 PM

Is there a better (cooler) location?

Yes the harness is long enough to allow it to sit in the tail section beside the tool roll.
Mine sits in a stubby cooler in there to provide some water protection.
Its been there for around 6 or 7 years now and I have had no problems at all.

Harvy

Here's how I mounted mine next to the tool kit location. Going strong after a number of years.



It was down near the air box, where the original igniter was.
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