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Started by fuel80guy, June 13, 2015, 02:35:28 PM

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fuel80guy

Looking for some recommendations on radial masters.
Can be pee cup design or others but gotta be plug and play

Steve_in_Florida

GasDude,
You mean like this one?

     http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3ARadial.750&cat=39

I don't have one, but if it comes from Randy, it has been tested for use with our bikes.

Steve
`90 FJ-1200
`92 FJ-1200

IBA # 54823

aviationfred

I have used 2 different other manufacturer's master cylinder's. Both with great success. Both are from 1998 Hondas. Coffin style VFR800 and urine cup style VTR1000.

The VTR1000 fluid reservoir was too far to the center. I replaced it with a universal reservoir that put it over the handle bar.
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Blackcloud89

When you say the VTR cup was too far to the center- was it running into the fairing- or was it just annoying?  The superhawk is on my list of donor options (I'd like to match the brake and clutch cylinders if possible) because I think my brake master needs a rebuild.
1989 FJ1200
Past:
2002 748S
1998 CBR900RR
1987 VFR700F2
1984 Nighthawk S
Past dirt- WR250, YFZ450, XR250L, KX80, BW80 (he's still in the garage)

Pat Conlon

It should be noted that Fred's Honda VTR and VFR m/c's above are axial, not radial m/c's.

The only radial m/c I recall that did not have a urine cup style reservoir was the French Beringer Aerotec series:

https://www.bike-design.com/en/category/192/master-cylinders

At over $600 ea, way out of my price range.
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Blackcloud89

Yikes- yeah that's a bit spendy for my blood!

So far I'm looking at Superhawk, RC51, and 06-07 (ish) CBR1k for master cylinder donors. 

1989 FJ1200
Past:
2002 748S
1998 CBR900RR
1987 VFR700F2
1984 Nighthawk S
Past dirt- WR250, YFZ450, XR250L, KX80, BW80 (he's still in the garage)

aviationfred

Quote from: Blackcloud89 on June 22, 2015, 10:09:26 AM
When you say the VTR cup was too far to the center- was it running into the fairing- or was it just annoying? 



The reservoir blocked the view of the fuel gauge. It was far enough to the middle that it did not interfere with the fairing.

The VTR1000 does have a hydraulic clutch and the master cylinder has the cup style reservoir.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/03-2003-HONDA-VTR1000-VTR-1000-SUPERHAWK-FRONT-MASTER-CYLINDER-CLUTCH-9999-/351350753657?hash=item51ce230979&vxp=mtr#ht_698wt_1105

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Paul1965

Quote from: fuel80guy on June 13, 2015, 02:35:28 PM
Looking for some recommendations on radial masters.
Can be pee cup design or others but gotta be plug and play

I installed these on my 84 before I knew the trans was junk. Didn't really have a chance to test them, but I used a similar set before and had absolutely no issues. I switched to these because the reservoir mounts direct and needs no hose or bracket, resulting in a much cleaner look (and less prone to leaking).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251975259430?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
1978 Yamaha 400 Sold
1984 Yamaha Maxim 400 Blew up
1982 Yamaha Vision Sold
1983 Kawasaki GPz1100 Sold
1984 Yamaha FJ1100 Killed it
1991 Yamaha FJ1200 Sold
2009 Triumph Sprint ST Sold
2014 Triumph Trophy SE

Arnie

Quote from: Paul1965 on June 22, 2015, 05:19:36 PM
Quote from: fuel80guy on June 13, 2015, 02:35:28 PM
Looking for some recommendations on radial masters.
Can be pee cup design or others but gotta be plug and play

I installed these on my 84 before I knew the trans was junk. http://www.ebay.com/itm/251975259430?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Those would be fine for the clutch, but with a 17mm bore you might not like them for the brakes.  The lever effort will be higher  than the OEM master.  This doesn't mean they won't work just fine, but they will require you to squeeze harder for the same braking.