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Started by fuel80guy, June 01, 2015, 03:34:10 PM

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fuel80guy

Is the oil level with rpm valves the same as stock  forks springs?

FJmonkey

If you bought the valves then follow the oil level instructions that came with them. If you lost them Randy or Robert can send you copy. If you don't have the valves, why are you asking? Just curious, not trying to being rude. 
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

fuel80guy

Lost the instructions and I've tried to email Randy but keep getting a error and cannot connect  with him

FJmonkey

I can scan my copy and post to your PM. Randy has newer and improved ones so I don't want to make it public.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

copper

I think someone posted the link off his site isn't working but if you email direct it goes through

fj1289

Quote from: fuel80guy on June 01, 2015, 07:57:13 PM
Lost the instructions and I've tried to email Randy but keep getting a error and cannot connect  with him

As copper said - you have to email direct vice using the link:  randy@rpmracingca.com

fuel80guy

Now thats odd because last night this post was gone from forum.
Moderator please delete my other post.

bharvey60

Did you get the valves in?  I put mine in 2 weeks ago with the .85 kg springs and RPM rear shock. I'm impressed.  Much more composed ride and it eliminates a lot of the brake dive.  Easier now to brake hard and I'm rethinking upgrading the brakes as a result. Make sure you use the Motul 5W in the forks.
1973 CB750
1985 FJ1100
1998 R1100RT

fuel80guy

Yes randy sent me the info and I should have them back on this weekend.

Burns

just a word on fork tube oil level.

What is actually being changed with various oil levels is the volume of the air chamber at the top of the tube.  That air is compressed as the forks compress and the rate of resistance to compression (i.e. air pressure) rises exponentially to the volume compressed (i.e. slider travel) The chamber is functionally a progressive spring.   The smaller the air chamber (higher oil level) the higher the effective over-all spring rate and the "steeper" rate of increase.

Since the "sweet spot" for the rider is dependent on a combination of factors, including the individual rider's taste, suggested levels are stated in ranges, not absolute values.

It comes down to putting in enough oil to immerse the components, ride the bike, then add more 'till the ride  gets a little stiff for your taste and suck  some out to find your personal sweet spot.

RPM's valving may run softer or stiffer than that of the stock suspension, I don't know, but the air-chamber physics are the same and there is no such thing as "THE"  correct oil level.

Season to taste.
There's nothing you can do that can't be done.

Arnie

Burns,

Excellant explaination.  Kudos.

Arnie

ribbert

Excellent post Burns. Nailed it without all the mumbo jumbo. Let's hope it's contagious.

I am pleased to see your return to the forum.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Burns

Thank you for your warm welcome to my return, mates.  I just finished a job in North Carolina (a real character builder) and am getting re-connected. I I bought a shipping container (8x20X8) which will be here Tuesday and will start becoming my shop shortly thereafter.  I gotta a LOT of FJ stuff onmy " to do" list.

I'll keep ya posted.


Meet ya in the Wind!

mb
There's nothing you can do that can't be done.

ELIMINATOR

I bought the valves, springs and oil before Xmas, when I lived in a detached house with a garage. Then I got caught playing way!!!!! Now live in a flat without a garage, my bikes are outside my front door. How long does it take to do the complete job? Notmechamically inept, just nervous when doing a job for the first time. I don't want to leave the bike in bits overnight!
BMW 1150GS
Moto Guzzi California 3

bharvey60

Both fronts and rear are very easy to do.  On a scale of 1-5 with 5 being the hardest, I'd give it a 2.  With front forks you don't have to remove the front fairing.  Unbolting the handlebars is simple and provides you with the clearance you need to remove the covers and access the internals.  I highly recommend buying the tool for removing the damper rod insert https://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=27mmForkHolder. Also helps to have a service manual.

Rear is dirt simple with no need to even remove the rear wheel.  Two bolts on/off and you're done.

Basically, it's tough to get lost if you simply follow the directions and there are plenty of us here to help if you get stuck.

Time for rear was 40 minutes; front was 1:20 including time for draining the fork oil.
1973 CB750
1985 FJ1100
1998 R1100RT