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'92 throttle tube assembly compatability

Started by fjfool, March 20, 2015, 05:26:18 PM

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fjfool

can i toss the huge kill switch/ throttle tube assembly and cables on my '86  and just replace with the assembly and cables from a '92?
thanks

Steve_in_Florida

I believe that the clip-on bars are the same, so everything that clamps to them should fit.  Throttle cables to the carb should pose no problem.

I cannot personally verify the plug-n-play on the electrical, though.

Steve
`90 FJ-1200
`92 FJ-1200

IBA # 54823

fjfool

thanks Steve,
does the splitter box on the cables serve any purpose?

aviationfred

The splitter box connects the 4 throttle cables together on your '86, as per the following drawing.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1986/FJ1200S/HANDLEBAR+CABLE/parts.html

The '91 and later FJ's only used 2 throttle cables and no splitter box, as per the following drawing.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1992/FJ1200AD/HANDLEBAR+CABLE/parts.html

I would believe that you could swap out the complete switch gear, throttle tube and cables without an issue.

Fred
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fjfool

Quote from: aviationfred on March 21, 2015, 11:49:00 AM
The splitter box connects the 4 throttle cables together on your '86, as per the following drawing.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1986/FJ1200S/HANDLEBAR+CABLE/parts.html

The '91 and later FJ's only used 2 throttle cables and no splitter box, as per the following drawing.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1992/FJ1200AD/HANDLEBAR+CABLE/parts.html

I would believe that you could swap out the complete switch gear, throttle tube and cables without an issue.

Fred
thats what i was getting at,
thank you, Fred

FJ_Hooligan

Quote from: fjfool on March 21, 2015, 11:37:21 AM
thanks Steve,
does the splitter box on the cables serve any purpose?

Have you had the carbs off the engine yet?

That splitter box is 100x easier than trying to get the cables hooked back into the carb throttle linkage.
DavidR.

ribbert

Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on March 21, 2015, 06:21:24 PM
Quote from: fjfool on March 21, 2015, 11:37:21 AM
thanks Steve,
does the splitter box on the cables serve any purpose?

Have you had the carbs off the engine yet?

That splitter box is 100x easier than trying to get the cables hooked back into the carb throttle linkage.

Not too bad if you fit the cables before mounting the carb .

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

FJ_Hooligan

Noel,
Do you have any tips to share?  That's one of the most frustrating tasks I've experienced working on an FJ.  I do it before mounting the carbs, but getting that cable threaded around the back of the mechanism and into the hole is a major pain.  I've used needle nosed pliers, tweezers, hemostats and it's always a chore.  What's your technique
DavidR.

FJmonkey

Voodoo is my choice of getting the cables reconnected. But I loose an egg laying chicken every time damn it!!!!  :dash2: :dash2: :dash2:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Steve_in_Florida

I just went through this ordeal a couple of days ago; replacement throttle cable set for the `92.

Carbs stayed on the bike. Wedged the throttle plates open with the handle tool in the stock tool kit. The small end was between one of the carb adjusters and the heat shield. This position allowed me to thread the "pull" cable ferrule into the hole and rotate the cable into its captured position.

Removed the wedge, carbs back into their resting state.

Now the trick is to thread and rotate the ferrule for the "push" cable. I was able to accomplish this with two long, narrow, standard screwdrivers and about 15 minutes of patience.

Slight bit of adjustment of the cable housings, and all is well with the universe, again.

No voodoo, just Santeria. Or Sangria. I forget.

Steve
`90 FJ-1200
`92 FJ-1200

IBA # 54823

ribbert

Quote from: FJ_Hooligan on March 21, 2015, 07:49:48 PM
Noel,
Do you have any tips to share?  That's one of the most frustrating tasks I've experienced working on an FJ.  I do it before mounting the carbs, but getting that cable threaded around the back of the mechanism and into the hole is a major pain.  I've used needle nosed pliers, tweezers, hemostats and it's always a chore.  What's your technique

Sorry Hooli, I just did it last night but can only recall that it involved a pair of these:



A pair of long bent needle nose pliers and wedging the butterflies open with a screwdriver handle. Other than that I would have to do it again take note of what I do.

BTW, those long, bent needle nose pliers get a surprising amount of use around the workshop, very handy tool.

Noel

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"