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Vance & Hines

Started by wildfire, February 08, 2015, 10:10:31 PM

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wildfire

So tell me fellas what is the advantage of a V&H exhaust over original FJ  exhaust. It sounds different but is there a performance gain.
1992 FJ1200

"All I ask for is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy".

aviationfred

This is my opinion, others may differ.  :flag_of_truce:

Advantages

1. Lighter weight. V&H exhaust is about 16 lbs lighter that OEM exhaust.
2. Sound, your FJ won't sound like a sewing machine.
3. Jetted properly, slight performance gains in the higher RPM range.

Disadvantages

1. You will lose access to your oil drain plug.
2. The super sport version will have the head pipes rust badly within 2 years.
3. Jetted properly, some loss of midrange performance.

Save your pennies and get the RPM exhaust.

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

wildfire

Quote from: aviationfred on February 08, 2015, 10:28:22 PM
This is my opinion, others may differ.  :flag_of_truce:

Advantages

1. Lighter weight. V&H exhaust is about 16 lbs lighter that OEM exhaust.
2. Sound, your FJ won't sound like a sewing machine.
3. Jetted properly, slight performance gains in the higher RPM range.

Disadvantages

1. You will lose access to your oil drain plug.
2. The super sport version will have the head pipes rust badly within 2 years.
3. Jetted properly, some loss of midrange performance.

Save your pennies and get the RPM exhaust.

Fred



Actually my bike came with the V&H and besides the pain in the rear changing oil I just find it too loud. I have repacked the baffle but its  still loud.  I would like to know what the V&H sounds like on a FJ when it passes by .  I must say I do like the sound of the OEM exhausts when heard on youtube.
1992 FJ1200

"All I ask for is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy".

giantkiller

Hey wild I have a V&H exhaust I took off the bike I just bought. To make my turbo bike out of obviously won't be needing it its rough. I was going to polish and paint it and then sell it. But I'll sell it as is to you for $50.And I'm coming down to the international bike show in Chicago next Sunday. Could deliver it there. You could clean it up. Use it. And if you don't like it sell it.

Let me know
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

giantkiller

Oops guess that answers that. You posted while I was typing
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

giantkiller

I have a supertrap stainless with a down turned tip on my 86 1350. It sounds great, but yes a little loud. But on my 89 I have 2 supertrap slippons and down turn tips. With the stock headers and collector. And I love the way that sounds
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

~JM~

Quote from: wildfire on February 08, 2015, 10:51:22 PMActually my bike came with the V&H and besides the pain in the rear changing oil I just find it too loud. I have repacked the baffle but its  still loud.  I would like to know what the V&H sounds like on a FJ when it passes by .  I must say I do like the sound of the OEM exhausts when heard on youtube.

What type of baffle packing did you use? Fiberglass type or stainless steel wool?

I have an '89 FJ with the stock exhaust. It's pretty much whisper quiet. I've had more close calls with pedestrians, joggers & bicyclists on this bike than my louder bikes. They just can't hear me coming & they move out into the road.

wildfire

Quote from: giantkiller on February 08, 2015, 10:57:19 PM
Hey wild I have a V&H exhaust I took off the bike I just bought. To make my turbo bike out of obviously won't be needing it its rough. I was going to polish and paint it and then sell it. But I'll sell it as is to you for $50.And I'm coming down to the international bike show in Chicago next Sunday. Could deliver it there. You could clean it up. Use it. And if you don't like it sell it.

Let me know

Giant thanks for the exhaust  offer anyways.  I did not know there was a bike show on next Sunday. I might go to it myself. Where is it been held.

JM I used fiberglass. It was a improvement as the original owner had removed the baffle completely but still loud.
1992 FJ1200

"All I ask for is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy".

~JM~

I don't know how long 'glass lasts as a silencing material in an FJ exhaust. Some of the after-market dirt-bike fiberglass packing is very dense. Stainless steel wool in theory should not need re-packing after the first installation. I don't know which is quieter.

If it's still too loud... You're not going fast enough to outrun the noise. :biggrin:

cclase



What type of baffle packing did you use? Fiberglass type or stainless steel wool?

I have an '89 FJ with the stock exhaust. It's pretty much whisper quiet. I've had more close calls with pedestrians, joggers & bicyclists on this bike than my louder bikes. They just can't hear me coming & they move out into the road.
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I agree with JM...I feel like the louder exhaust (I've got a V&H 4:1) raises awareness to my presence on the road, therefore not quite as easy for my fellow commuters to "forget" that there is a bike in their proximity (easy to do you know, so much multitasking going on inside the cages...very little processing left for actually being engaged with the primary task at hand).  As mentioned though, oil changes are a hassle.  My $.02.
1985 FJ1100

giantkiller

It at the Donald E Stephens center Rosemont.
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

wildfire

Quote from: giantkiller on February 09, 2015, 12:53:08 PM
It at the Donald E Stephens center Rosemont.

Rosemont. Bitch for parking  Better get there early. If you would like some company or just need a break from driving let me know. I assume you will be coming down 94. I am 2 minutes from 94. Wife has already given me the all clear to go to the show.
1992 FJ1200

"All I ask for is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy".

giantkiller

Quote from: wildfire on February 09, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on February 09, 2015, 12:53:08 PM
It at the Donald E Stephens center Rosemont.

Rosemont. Bitch for parking  Better get there early. If you would like some company or just need a break from driving let me know. I assume you will be coming down 94. I am 2 minutes from 94. Wife has already given me the all clear to go to the show.
Hey wild I would say hell ya but. There's supposed to be 4 of us and possibly 6. And I can't speak for them. Supposed to be there right at 10:00. But it never goes that way.
I'll pm you my phone number. And if it works in there I would come meet ya.
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1