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Scott automatic chain oilers

Started by PaulG, December 19, 2014, 10:45:53 AM

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Mark Olson

I just keep the small can of tri-flow in my tank bag . I don't like automatic maint as you forget to physically check things.
Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

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Mark Olson

Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

                           " Get off your ass and Ride"

ribbert

Quote from: Mark Olson on December 26, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
I don't like automatic maint as you forget to physically check things.

I take it you'll be changing out your automatic cam chain tensioner for a manual one then?  :biggrin:

Something being automatic doesn't preclude keeping an eye on it. I check my chain with the same frequency as always but the difference is, I don't have to do anything to it.
I have a remote tyre pressure monitor but it doesn't mean I don't inspect my tyres before each ride just because I no longer need to check the pressures.

The consensus here appears to be that whatever sort you have, vacuum, home made, digital etc, and what ever you run through it, the constant chain lube, extended chain life and reduced need for adjusting is a good thing. I hate adjusting chains!

I have been manually lubing chains for 45 years and never found a completely satisfactory arrangement. I particularly hate it at the end of each day on trips.

Still, each to their own, but I for one never want to see another can of chain lube or wash a chain again.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

FJ1100mjk

Quote from: Mark Olson on December 26, 2014, 05:24:35 PM
Oh, so you're "the dude"

No, no, not "the dude". I've always like the movie though, and the many laughs it gives. Couldn't help myself using the opinion line from him.

I use a can of chain lube too. Always have.
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Quote from: ribbert on December 26, 2014, 05:49:03 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on December 26, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
I don't like automatic maint as you forget to physically check things.

I take it you'll be changing out your automatic cam chain tensioner for a manual one then?  :biggrin:

Something being automatic doesn't preclude keeping an eye on it. I check my chain with the same frequency as always but the difference is, I don't have to do anything to it.
I have a remote tyre pressure monitor but it doesn't mean I don't inspect my tyres before each ride just because I no longer need to check the pressures.

The consensus here appears to be that whatever sort you have, vacuum, home made, digital etc, and what ever you run through it, the constant chain lube, extended chain life and reduced need for adjusting is a good thing. I hate adjusting chains!

I have been manually lubing chains for 45 years and never found a completely satisfactory arrangement. I particularly hate it at the end of each day on trips.

Still, each to their own, but I for one never want to see another can of chain lube or wash a chain again.

Noel

I don't think cam tensioner Qualifies as automatic Maintenance... Automatic adjustment maybe.

ah c'mon Noel we all hate to change chains but the cost of the automatic oiler seems prohibitive . How many chains will equal its cost?
Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

                           " Get off your ass and Ride"

Mark Olson

Quote from: FJ1100mjk on December 26, 2014, 07:03:47 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on December 26, 2014, 05:24:35 PM
Oh, so you're "the dude"

No, no, not "the dude". I've always like the movie though, and the many laughs it gives. Couldn't help myself using the opinion line from him.

I use a can of chain lube too. Always have.

So , not "the Dude" then one of the "Carpet Pissers "  :rofl: :rofl:

Yeah, funny movie and I have a fun fact for you... My In-law is the Actor who played Sadam in that movie.
Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

                           " Get off your ass and Ride"

ribbert

[squote author=Mark Olson link=topic=13029.msg130901#msg130901 date=1419644542]

I don't think cam tensioner Qualifies as automatic Maintenance... Automatic adjustment maybe.

ah c'mon Noel we all hate to change chains but the cost of the automatic oiler seems prohibitive . How many chains will equal its cost?
[/quote]

The extended chain life is just a bonus for me, it's the lubing, adjusting and cleaning that I wished to be freed from and hang the expense. The sort of riding I do has my chain dry and gritty much of the time to the point of feeling the courseness creep in as the ride progresses.

I hate when you start the day off in rain, wash your chain dry, and you've still got another 600 kms to go.

Economically it still stacks up pretty well though. My last chain and sprockets, about 6 mths ago, cost $350.
Oilers Range from $120 - $400 and all sorts in between. Real life testimonials from users suggest at least double the life (the manufacturers claim up to 7 times)

All the reviews submitted on the forum recently are positive.

As for you not seeing the advantages, I have bought many things in my life that I didn't need only then to wonder how I ever lived without them!

Getting an oiler was never big deal for me, after all, advances in lubrication and chain technology made them no longer necessary, right? Wrong. I do a lot of miles, often in harsh conditions that always required a lot of chain maintenance, but now that I have it and I am freed from all that, I cant imagine life without it.

Heaven forbid I should try and influence anyone though.  :biggrin:

(BTW I was having a bit of fun about the cam tensioner)

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Mark Olson

Quote from: ribbert on December 26, 2014, 09:09:54 PM
[squote author=Mark Olson link=topic=13029.msg130901#msg130901 date=1419644542]

I don't think cam tensioner Qualifies as automatic Maintenance... Automatic adjustment maybe.

ah c'mon Noel we all hate to change chains but the cost of the automatic oiler seems prohibitive . How many chains will equal its cost?

As for you not seeing the advantages, I have bought many things in my life that I didn't need only then to wonder how I ever lived without them!

Getting an oiler was never big deal for me, after all, advances in lubrication and chain technology made them no longer necessary, right? Wrong. I do a lot of miles, often in harsh conditions that always required a lot of chain maintenance, but now that I have it and I am freed from all that, I cant imagine life without it.

Heaven forbid I should try and influence anyone though.  :biggrin:

(BTW I was having a bit of fun about the cam tensioner)

Noel
[/quote]

Ah Noel , I am starting to see where having an oiler is an advantage for you in the harsh conditions your bike is subjected to. (I am feeling influenced now)  :blum1:

In sunny California where I do most of my riding the roads are nicely paved and looked after to the point that chain maintenance is at a minimum. Upon occasion it does rain and then chain service is required .

It has been pointed out many times from Klavdy and Lord baldy when they visit the west coast of California, how beautiful our roads are and how lucky we are and don't know how harsh road conditions are for the rest of the world.

So it would depend on the miles the bike experiences and the climate encountered to justify the addition of an automatic chain oiler .

(btw -we are all having a bit of fun) :sarcastic:
Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

                           " Get off your ass and Ride"