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Started by wildfire, November 12, 2014, 12:02:01 PM

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wildfire

So other than having to remove the exhaust every time to gain access to the oil drain plug are there any tips or techniques.

Tom
1992 FJ1200

"All I ask for is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy".

FJmonkey

You can remove one of the oil galley plugs near the bottom,front of the engine. It gets almost all of the oil out, enough for an oil change.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

racerrad8

Quote from: FJmonkey on November 12, 2014, 12:03:39 PM
You can remove one of the oil galley plugs near the bottom,front of the engine. It gets almost all of the oil out, enough for an oil change.

Sorry Monkey...The oil galleys are the pressure side of the system and will not drain the sump.

Your only option is to remove the left oil cooler fitting from the oil pan.

No, the galley plug in the pan will not drain the sump either.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

FJmonkey

I knew it was something like that, thanks for the correction Randy.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

wildfire

Is it best to do this on the center stand or side stand? I assume a o ring or washer will be required?
1992 FJ1200

"All I ask for is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy".

wildfire

Quote from: racerrad8 on November 12, 2014, 12:09:53 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on November 12, 2014, 12:03:39 PM
You can remove one of the oil galley plugs near the bottom,front of the engine. It gets almost all of the oil out, enough for an oil change.

Sorry Monkey...The oil galleys are the pressure side of the system and will not drain the sump.

Your only option is to remove the left oil cooler fitting from the oil pan.

No, the galley plug in the pan will not drain the sump either.

Randy - RPM



Would that drain the vast majority of oil. Is a new gasket required and do you stock them?
1992 FJ1200

"All I ask for is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy".

Zwartie

Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 12:13:05 PM
Is it best to do this on the center stand or side stand? I assume a o ring or washer will be required?
I've been changing the oil by loosening the left side oil cooler fitting as Randy stated and find it is best done with the bike on the side stand.

Zwartie
Ben Zwart
London, ON
1992 FJ1200
1977 KZ200

wildfire

So just to clarify that is the left side when sitting on the bike. Is a new gasket required?
1992 FJ1200

"All I ask for is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy".

1tinindian

Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
So just to clarify that is the left side when sitting on the bike. Is a new gasket required?

FYI, there is only one left, and only one right.
It doesn't matter if you are sitting on it, looking at it upside down, or cross-eyed.
"I want to be free to ride my machine without being hassled by the "man"!
91 FJ1200

oldktmdude

Quote from: 1tinindian on November 12, 2014, 12:52:11 PM

FYI, there is only one left, and only one right.
It doesn't matter if you are sitting on it, looking at it upside down, or cross-eyed.
Leon, it sounds as if this often used phrase ( left side as you're sitting on it ) gets on your goat a bit. That makes two of us. I'm surprised somebody hasn't mentioned it previously.  Pete.   :wacko3:
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

wildfire

Quote from: 1tinindian on November 12, 2014, 12:52:11 PM
Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
So just to clarify that is the left side when sitting on the bike. Is a new gasket required?

FYI, there is only one left, and only one right.
It doesn't matter if you are sitting on it, looking at it upside down, or cross-eyed.

FYI its all relevant on the viewers visual aspect or understand. Sitting on the bike the left will be viewed by many as the right when the same viewer stands in front of the bike so yes it does matter. Unless you of course were trying to say that the business standard of left/right is when viewing a motorcycle or any vehicle is when sitting in the riding/driving seat.
1992 FJ1200

"All I ask for is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy".

racerrad8

Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
Is a new gasket required?

There is an Oil Cooler Fitting O-Ring. You will have to make the decision on how regular you replace it.

Robert - RPM



Randy - RPM

Capn Ron

Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 01:06:35 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on November 12, 2014, 12:52:11 PM
Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
So just to clarify that is the left side when sitting on the bike. Is a new gasket required?

FYI, there is only one left, and only one right.
It doesn't matter if you are sitting on it, looking at it upside down, or cross-eyed.

FYI its all relevant on the viewers visual aspect or understand. Sitting on the bike the left will be viewed by many as the right when the same viewer stands in front of the bike so yes it does matter. Unless you of course were trying to say that the business standard of left/right is when viewing a motorcycle or any vehicle is when sitting in the riding/driving seat.

This is precisely why we use "Port" and "Starboard" when sailing.  Doesn't matter which way you're looking, the port side is always the port side...even if that's behind you!  It would be nice if this was universal with the "Left" and "Right" references on the motorcycle, but I can't trust that anyone but Leon adheres to that.

I will often use "Port side" or "Left as you're sitting on the bike" to avoid confusion.
Cap'n Ron. . .


There are two types of people in the world...Those who put people into categories...and those who don't.

wildfire

Quote from: Capn Ron on November 12, 2014, 02:27:25 PM
Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 01:06:35 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on November 12, 2014, 12:52:11 PM
Quote from: wildfire on November 12, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
So just to clarify that is the left side when sitting on the bike. Is a new gasket required?

FYI, there is only one left, and only one right.
It doesn't matter if you are sitting on it, looking at it upside down, or cross-eyed.

FYI its all relevant on the viewers visual aspect or understand. Sitting on the bike the left will be viewed by many as the right when the same viewer stands in front of the bike so yes it does matter. Unless you of course were trying to say that the business standard of left/right is when viewing a motorcycle or any vehicle is when sitting in the riding/driving seat.

This is precisely why we use "Port" and "Starboard" when sailing.  Doesn't matter which way you're looking, the port side is always the port side...even if that's behind you!  It would be nice if this was universal with the "Left" and "Right" references on the motorcycle, but I can't trust that anyone but Leon adheres to that.

I will often use "Port side" or "Left as you're sitting on the bike" to avoid confusion.

So true Ron.I often see people getting confused about bike sides so I sometimes I say on the clutch lever or brake lever side. If they dont understand that then they should not be on a bike.
1992 FJ1200

"All I ask for is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy".

jscgdunn

Or for the equine minded: near (left) side and off side.  The left side was chosen so you would not foul (if you were right handed) on your sword as you mounted.....it's a little known fact...thanks Cliff!    Interesting that most people mount their bike from the near side as well....of course the bike on the kickstand leaning to the left encourages it.

Jeff
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
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