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Cold Weather Riding - Faceshield Fog

Started by Lotsokids, October 30, 2014, 01:45:27 PM

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Lotsokids

I ride year round as long as it's dry. Temperature is never a big concern - I have warm gear. It's getting colder recently (here in Hungary anyway). To this point, I just crack open the shield a little and it clears up the fog mostly. I've tried anti-fog treatment on the faceshield, but it blurs the vision a little. That's too unsafe. My helmet is snug on my head, so I have difficulty with anything additional in the helmet with me like a head covering.

So I was thinking of some way to get my breath away from the shield to prevent the fogging. What about some sort of small snorkel to hold in the mouth and out around the neck somewhere? Anyone tried anything like this? :pardon:
U.S. Air Force sport bike instructor (initial cadre), 2007-2009

I'm an American living & working in Hungary

aviationfred

I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Dan Filetti

Shoei helmets have a piece that fits over you nose, built into the helmet.  It can be seen in this picture:



Not perfect but it makes a noticeable difference between having and not having it.

Dan

Live hardy, or go home. 

Capn Ron

What Dan said...

I've ridden with and without the "Breath Guard" in my Shoei helmet and it definitely makes a difference.  They sell them separately and you may be able to fit it up in a non-Shoei helmet:



http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/36114/i/shoei-rf-1000-and-tz-r-helmet-breath-guard
Cap'n Ron. . .


There are two types of people in the world...Those who put people into categories...and those who don't.

novaraptor

Here is a review on a device called "fog thief". Doesn't sound bad.
http://loomisadventures.com/gear/fogthief-helmet-anti-fog-device-review
You do have to wear that one in your mouth, though. A year or so ago, I searched for solutions, and can't remember the name of one that was said to work very well, but was a total pain to properly fit, since it had to be
repositioned everytime you put on the helmet, so whatever piques your interest, read up on it before you buy.
1990 FJ1200
Ride fast, live free... I forget the rest...

giantkiller

Bell offers, a breath box, breath box and dual pane shield, and a snowmobile conversion ( breath box, baklava and electric face shield) for the star, rs1and vortex. I just bought a rally red star from motorcycle closeouts for $199.  I love my rs1and couldn't pass up the deal on the star.

Prices for above: bb $9.95,bb and dual shield $34.95, snowmo kit $89.95
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

giantkiller

Bell really has thought of everything besides the above. They offer different sizes for the cheek pads. To fine tune the fit replacement liners. Transitions sheilds.

Oh yah no I don't work for Bell.
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

the fan

What these guys said.. Most helmet companies offer shields and breath box for their helmets intended for snow mobile use. I personally have always been able to get away with a home made balaclava and cracking the shield but my giant schnoz acts as a nose shield all by itself...

In my offroad days I really liked the scott no fog cloth. It worked well even in most cases of cold/wet when I was racing hare scrambles.

In extreme cases I would drill a series of small holes across the top of the lens, a stip of thin foam backed with thin lexan kept the dirt out but allowed enough airflow to keep the lens clear. I never liked dual pane lenses or the stick on fog city things as they tended to distort my vision.

Had a few friends who used this:
http://www.middletowncycle.com/eshopprod_cat_8938-5392-5980_product_1658347.SCOTT_NO-FOG_FAN_KIT.htm

but I am not sure how you would make it work on a street lid. It worked well but I found the fan noise on the early kits to be distracting.

What helmet do you wear?


airheadPete

The breath shield is good, but just one word, (ok, three):
PINLOCK!  PINLOCK! PINLOCK!
I live in Portland, where it's wet and chilly eight months of the year. That insert is fantastic at keeping me fog-free. They're harder to keep clean than a straight faceshield, and scratch easily, but they are more than worth it from a basic safety and convenience standpoint.
If your helmet is compatible, you won't be disappointed.  :good: :good: :good:
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'78 GS750E.   '81 R100RS
'76 R90/6       '89 R100GS
'65 R60/2

fj1289

Quote from: airheadPete on October 30, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
The breath shield is good, but just one word, (ok, three):
PINLOCK!  PINLOCK! PINLOCK!
I live in Portland, where it's wet and chilly eight months of the year. That insert is fantastic at keeping me fog-free. They're harder to keep clean than a straight faceshield, and scratch easily, but they are more than worth it from a basic safety and convenience standpoint.
If your helmet is compatible, you won't be disappointed.  :good: :good: :good:

PINLOCK!!!  You can see a little fog off to the side of the PINLOCK insert - but NONE on the PINLOCK.


ribbert

Quote from: airheadPete on October 30, 2014, 10:09:03 PM
The breath shield is good, but just one word, (ok, three):
PINLOCK!  PINLOCK! PINLOCK!
I live in Portland, where it's wet and chilly eight months of the year. That insert is fantastic at keeping me fog-free. They're harder to keep clean than a straight faceshield, and scratch easily, but they are more than worth it from a basic safety and convenience standpoint.
If your helmet is compatible, you won't be disappointed.  :good: :good: :good:

I have said a number of times here that the Pinlock screens do not get the publicity they deserve.
I have battled fogging screens for 45 years and have tried everything. I discovered these relatively recently and just couldn't believe how well they work.

I reported recently on a trip where in low single digit temperatures and rain so heavy it was like riding through a waterfall, I could not get my screen to fog up, even huffing and puffing intentionally trying to do so. I even had the visor locked to prevent water running down the inside and still no fog at all. I find it remarkable after all these years that someone came up with a 100% fix in one go.

I can't vouch for other brands but the Pinlock is brilliant. Many of the replacement screens you see on ebay are now "Pinlock ready" they come with holes (just 2) already in them. Many new helmets are also being sold with Pinlock ready screens now.

Just in case you missed in the previous posts


PINLOCK    PINLOCK    PINLOCK  is the answer to your problem

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

pdxfj

As others have said the Pinlock is the only way to go.  Only thing I've ever used that actually works.  Really nice when you forget to close your helmet vents while riding down the interstate in a rain storm.. rest of the face shield will fog up, but not the Pinlock portion.

ZOA NOM

Having a hard time finding a pinlock shield for Bell... lemme guess, not compatible?
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

aviationfred

Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 13, 2014, 03:34:06 PM
Having a hard time finding a pinlock shield for Bell... lemme guess, not compatible?


I am thinking that Bell does not offer a Pinlock style faceshield. Your best bet will be a Fogcity insert like my earlier post above.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

mr blackstock

G'day,

I ride year round, sometimes in winter it gets to around 1 degree, so after wind gets included it seems pretty damn cold.  I have been using the fog city insert for a few years now and cannot recommend them highly enough.  I bought mine off ebay, it was the genuine item, easy to install and has been a life saver.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FOG-CITY-HYPER-SHIELD-CLEAR-MOTORCYCLE-HELMET-ANTI-FOG-VISOR-INSERT-/251285980994?pt=AU_Clothing_Merchandise_Media&var=&hash=item3a81cfc742#ht_2053wt_725

Just one of many on the net I guess.

Cheers, Gareth

Squeaky wheels always get the grease...

Yamaha FJ1100 1985