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1988 3cv front end change

Started by Tree3cv, October 12, 2014, 01:21:01 PM

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Tree3cv

Hi one and all,

Think I'm posting in the correct place...............new to all this forum malarkey.

I'm looking to change my top yoke or maybe whole front end.
I have a 1988 3cv.
Have trawled the boards but not found a definitive answer (perhaps me being a numpty tbh).

Could anyone tell me of a straight forward mod??
Not really bothered about usd's but could be tempted if there's a pretty easy front end swap??

I know this info is here but I can't find it or maybe i'm just confusing myself - nuthin new there ;-)

Fz1 yokes? Is the stem comparable?

Please help

Yours sincerely a very confused and bewildered bloke rocking in the shed corner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tree :dash2:
Always striving for something to do and somewhere. Living free and living in the dark confines beyond the edge of standard motorcycling.
Always up for new knowledge and a chinwag.
(A)dios (A)migos

Pat Conlon

I'm happy with the '92 FZR1000 USD forks on my '84 FJ.... see the gallery for pictures, descriptions and links.

Other than some light Dremel work on the inside of the frame crossmember to clear the larger fork tubes the FZR front end swap was pretty much plug and play.
The benefits were:
1) speedo drive was compatable with my FJ
2) 3.5" wide 17" front rim.
3) larger 320mm rotors
4) stiffer lighter 17mm (hollow) front axle
5) fits the R1 blue spot calipers
6) opens up a wide option for handlebars
7) cartridge forks.
8) USD fork design by its nature, has less flex than conventional forks, especially the spindley 41mm fork tubes used on our heavy FJ's.

....and....the chicks dig it. :hi:       (Hi Mike)
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Tree3cv

Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 12, 2014, 02:31:46 PM
I'm happy with the '92 FZR1000 USD forks on my '84 FJ.... see the gallery for pictures, descriptions and links.

Other than some light Dremel work on the inside of the frame crossmember to clear the larger fork tubes the FZR front end swap was pretty much plug and play.
The benefits were:
1) speedo drive was compatable with my FJ
2) 3.5" wide 17" front rim.
3) larger 320mm rotors
4) stiffer lighter 17mm (hollow) front axle
5) fits the R1 blue spot calipers
6) opens up a wide option for handlebars

7) cartridge forks.
8) USD fork design by its nature, has less flex than conventional forks, especially the spindley 41mm fork tubes used on our heavy FJ's.

....and....the chicks dig it. :hi:       (Hi Mike)

Hi Mike,
Thank you very much for your help.
So off to eBay I go.
Will keep you updated
All the best
Tree

Always striving for something to do and somewhere. Living free and living in the dark confines beyond the edge of standard motorcycling.
Always up for new knowledge and a chinwag.
(A)dios (A)migos

Tree3cv

Ok, I've just noticed your not Mike......you are Pat! Lol
So thanks Pat and hi Mike ( whoever and wherever you are)
Tree
Always striving for something to do and somewhere. Living free and living in the dark confines beyond the edge of standard motorcycling.
Always up for new knowledge and a chinwag.
(A)dios (A)migos

Pat Conlon

Quote from: Tree3cv on October 12, 2014, 03:57:44 PM
Ok, I've just noticed your not Mike......you are Pat! Lol
So thanks Pat and hi Mike ( whoever and wherever you are)
Tree


No worries my leafy friend, it's a inside joke...whenever I tout the benefits of USD forks, my diminutive friend Mike R rebuts....and his arguments always seem to be well reasoned and logical.

I throw the zinger in there about the chicks just because he hasn't (yet) figured out how the address that point.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Tree3cv

Quote from: Pat Conlon on October 12, 2014, 04:28:32 PM
Quote from: Tree3cv on October 12, 2014, 03:57:44 PM
Ok, I've just noticed your not Mike......you are Pat! Lol
So thanks Pat and hi Mike ( whoever and wherever you are)
Tree


No worries my leafy friend, it's a inside joke...whenever I tout the benefits of USD forks, my diminutive friend Mike R rebuts....and his arguments always seem to be well reasoned and logical.

I throw the zinger in there about the chicks just because he hasn't (yet) figured out how the address that point.

Pmsl.........did think it a little random when I realised but now I get it.

Looked at your conversion in pix.........looks well dude and think I;m going to follow suit.
Was the T-ace swing arm easy?
Guy not a million miles away from me is breaking one n the arse end is going begging
Always striving for something to do and somewhere. Living free and living in the dark confines beyond the edge of standard motorcycling.
Always up for new knowledge and a chinwag.
(A)dios (A)migos

Pat Conlon

Quote from: Tree3cv on October 12, 2014, 05:07:58 PM
Was the T-ace swing arm easy?


It was easy for me. I live 1 hour away from Mark Rittner's home so his machinist did all the work on the swing arm.
As far as machining goes, the shortening of the swing arm pivot is straight forward. The tricky part was doing the "fly cut" to get clearance for the Penske shock spring.
To fit the TAce swing arm to my bike, I had to convert the swing arm linkage on my '84 over to the dog bone style. That was fairly straight forward except for trying to find a '89-91 relay arm. That took about 4 months of searching to find the part.

Quote from: Tree3cv on October 12, 2014, 05:07:58 PM

Guy not a million miles away from me is breaking one n the arse end is going begging

^^I do not understand what this means^^
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

TexasDave

What Pat you don't speak Aussie?  A guy not to far from him is parting the bike out and no one wants the rear of the bike.   :biggrin:  Dave
A pistol is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one you will never need one again.

Pat Conlon

Ok, thanks Dave....makes sense now.

The beauty of the TAce conversion is that you use the entire assembly off the YZF1000.
No need to mess around with special spacers.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Bill_Rockoff

The '88 is like what we got in the US as an '89 - already has the 17" front wheel (heavy 17x3 though) and 298mm rotors.  Consequently, it's ready for modern radial tires and for the "blue-spots" (the aluminum calipers from early R1, R6, FZ1 - also available in gold-spot and silver-spot.)   So although it's less bling than a swap, it's very cost-effective to install cartridge emulator valves and stiffer fork springs and heavier fork oil in your existing forks.  You might consider that. 
Reg Pridmore yelled at me once