A pair of projects

[fj johnnie]

 Awesome job. What a great thing it is to restore an old favorite like an FJ.

[Urban_Legend]

Hi All. Got some more done on the bike today. Brake line and brakes fitted up (still need to bleed them) Sub frame fitted and some cosmetic stuff (stainless bolts) fitted to various parts.
My next question, and I realise this could open a can of worm, is about jetting and setting up the carbie. So to give all the info. The motor as far as I know is standard, but I am running dual UNI pods and an RPM 4-2-1 exhaust. The bike has 17t front sprocket and 40t rear. It will be running on 95 octane or better fuel. Any help would be most appreciated. I have looked all over the forum for info, and will be recruiting some more knowledgeable volunteers, but FJ knowledge would be nice.

Ta

Mark

[Arnie]

Talk to Randy.  He'll give you his exact recommendations for jetting with these I & E mods.

If I were to guess, I'd say start with 40 pilots, 115 or maybe 117.5 MJs, and middle groove on the needle.

[Urban_Legend]

Talk to Randy.  He'll give you his exact recommendations for jetting with these I & E mods.

If I were to guess, I'd say start with 40 pilots, 115 or maybe 117.5 MJs, and middle groove on the needle.

Thanks Arnie. I have sent Randy a PM

Mark

[Timbo-1]

Looking real great Mark
Soon be finished and look forward to seeing end result...
Don't be alarmed if the donk smokes when you fire it up first time as I put 20mls of oil in each pot and spun it over on the starter for 30 seconds. Didn't know how long it was going to sit.
Cheers mate, keep up the photos...... 
Timbo...

[Urban_Legend]

Looking real great Mark
Soon be finished and look forward to seeing end result...
Don't be alarmed if the donk smokes when you fire it up first time as I put 20mls of oil in each pot and spun it over on the starter for 30 seconds. Didn't know how long it was going to sit.
Cheers mate, keep up the photos...... 
Timbo...

Thanks Timbo
Well after months of waiting I got noise out of the bike tonight. (only turning over - no fuel or oil) only I seem to have something wired backwards (or wrong) would only turn over when as I switched the key to the off position. Thoughts? Have to change the filter add some oil and see if we can get this thing breathing.

[the fan]

I was going to upgrade to a GSXR rear wheel, but the lack of availability and price (have already blown the budget big time) and still trying to source a new rear shock (something less than $900 would be good).

I think you'd have more luck finding rocking horse shit than a gsxr wheel here, plenty on Ebay in the states but shipping is prohibitive. I'm wondering if early xjr 1200/1300 wheels would fit as they may be easier to source. You can buy a new Hagon shock for around the $500 mark, I've got one on mine and have no complaints.

                                                              Tony.

You could look for an FZR600R wheel, same spoke pattern as original too.



BTW, the above is an FJ

Noel

Is that what's on yours Noel. If so are they a straight fit or do you have to modify them.

The mods to install the FZR600R wheel (same as USA YZF600/YZF600R) are pretty straightforward and detaile in this thread http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1567.0

Its interesting on ribberts bike pictured above that he does not have the fZR600R/YZF 600 rear brake caliper which hangs above the swingarm. The setup he has appears to be from a YZF1000 thunderace. Not sure how they handled the difference in axle size as the 1000 has a much larger axle.

[Pat Conlon]

That does not look like my Thunder Ace's caliper mounts..

[the fan]

Pat, I will have to look at mine when I get home. I know my ace caliper is underslung and uses a similar bar but it's been a while since I really looked at it. I do know tha all year YZF600 (FZR600R) use the same caliper mount that places the caliper above the swing arm.

[ribbert]

I was going to upgrade to a GSXR rear wheel, but the lack of availability and price (have already blown the budget big time) and still trying to source a new rear shock (something less than $900 would be good).

I think you'd have more luck finding rocking horse shit than a gsxr wheel here, plenty on Ebay in the states but shipping is prohibitive. I'm wondering if early xjr 1200/1300 wheels would fit as they may be easier to source. You can buy a new Hagon shock for around the $500 mark, I've got one on mine and have no complaints.

                                                              Tony.

You could look for an FZR600R wheel, same spoke pattern as original too.



BTW, the above is an FJ

Noel

Is that what's on yours Noel. If so are they a straight fit or do you have to modify them.

The mods to install the FZR600R wheel (same as USA YZF600/YZF600R) are pretty straightforward and detaile in this thread http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1567.0

Its interesting on ribberts bike pictured above that he does not have the fZR600R/YZF 600 rear brake caliper which hangs above the swingarm. The setup he has appears to be from a YZF1000 thunderace. Not sure how they handled the difference in axle size as the 1000 has a much larger axle.

It has a standard FJ axle. I am no Yamaha model expert but I fit FZR600R pads and sprockets to it. I was of the understanding that this model, or at least those years, was not sold in the US. I also, for reasons I can't recall, didn't think the FZR600R and YZF 600 were the same bike. But I could of course be wrong. I do recall the FZR600R and the FZR600 were very different bikes.

Noel

[the fan]

Ribbert,

The FZR600R (aus++) was the same bike as the 94.5-96 YZF600 sold in the US and Canada with only a few minor cosmetic changes. The later (96 most of the world /97USA YZF600R shares many parts with the earlier bike including the complete swingarm, linkage, wheel and brakes.

Oddly we had a FZR600R in 94 and 95 as well as the YZF... It was basically the same as the FZR600 sold worldwide.

I race on one of the 94 models (technically a 95 in the US but the same as the EUR/AUS 94 and a 94 model year build date....) Confused yet?

I still need to figure out which caliper/hanger that is to satisfy my curiosity.

[ribbert]

Ribbert,

The FZR600R (aus++) was the same bike as the 94.5-96 YZF600 sold in the US and Canada with only a few minor cosmetic changes. The later (96 most of the world /97USA YZF600R shares many parts with the earlier bike including the complete swingarm, linkage, wheel and brakes.

Oddly we had a FZR600R in 94 and 95 as well as the YZF... It was basically the same as the FZR600 sold worldwide.

I race on one of the 94 models (technically a 95 in the US but the same as the EUR/AUS 94 and a 94 model year build date....) Confused yet?

I still need to figure out which caliper/hanger that is to satisfy my curiosity.

As previously stated, I am no model expert and you seem to be on top of the various 600's.
Wouldn't it be likely that all the components came from the same bike, why make the job unecessarily difficult?
The pads are for the "R" (as is the sprocket) and the axle is FJ.

Can't help beyond that, I bought the swing arm, wheel, brake, M/C, hose, sprocket etc mounted. The caliper has no identifying numbers and the stamping on the wheel identifies it as '94-'96 "R".

It turns and stops, that's extent of my interest in it. 

Noel

[Urban_Legend]

Reached a major mile stone today. The bike has life ( IT LIVES....Maw hahahahaha) And what a sweet sound it is too. Fitted new jets in the carb (42's and 115's) and adjusted the needles (third groove from the top (as per Randy's suggestions, thanks Randy). Quick and responsive sound, and a rumble the could wake the dead (the neighbours will love me on the early morning runs). Just have to tidy up the wiring (need resistors for the LED blinkers) and bleed the brakes (pain in the arse job - rear brake master cylinder plunger not pulling the fluid through, have a spare and will swap out) and wait for the panels to be painted. happy times.

[Timbo-1]

Reached a major mile stone today. The bike has life ( IT LIVES....Maw hahahahaha) And what a sweet sound it is too. Fitted new jets in the carb (42's and 115's) and adjusted the needles (third groove from the top (as per Randy's suggestions, thanks Randy). Quick and responsive sound, and a rumble the could wake the dead (the neighbours will love me on the early morning runs). Just have to tidy up the wiring (need resistors for the LED blinkers) and bleed the brakes (pain in the arse job - rear brake master cylinder plunger not pulling the fluid through, have a spare and will swap out) and wait for the panels to be painted. happy times.

Well done... ....looking forward to more photos...

[Urban_Legend]

After 2 days   of fault finding and swapping out jets and changing plugs, and cleaning carbs and adjusting floats, the bike is finally tuned and even moved under its own power. Found that I still have some work to do on the brakes, but it is still a step closer to completion. Wahoo.   A big thanks to my friend Mick Single for making the 200km trip and two days out of your life to help me.