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Started by JohanH, September 24, 2014, 07:12:06 AM

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JohanH

 :dash1: Ok, as I thought. Removed carbs today. Carbs not up to standard. previous owner has broken of the legs on two of the carbs where hinge pin goes in for float level. Repaired very badly and as i removed the last float it broke off!!!!! Now it to either repair or look for a replacement carb body.

Pat Conlon

Bummer.

Send Randy @ RPM a e-mail, he might have a couple of carb bodies for you. They are cylinder specific.

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
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3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
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Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

movenon

Quote from: JohanH on September 24, 2014, 07:12:06 AM
:dash1: Ok, as I thought. Removed carbs today. Carbs not up to standard. previous owner has broken of the legs on two of the carbs where hinge pin goes in for float level. Repaired very badly and as i removed the last float it broke off!!!!! Now it to either repair or look for a replacement carb body.

Carb float post repair information.  This might help if your in a jam and can't economically find a lower body. At least it is something to look at.  :good2:

http://www.xs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27137

George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

racerrad8

Wow, that is a lot of work, but required if both posts are broken off.

Here is the solution I use and have been using for years...


I have never had a problem with this repair.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

jscgdunn

Great fix Randy,...love it.  Baling wire and binder twine can fix almost anything.  Where you say your farm was located?

Jeff
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

racerrad8

Quote from: jscgdunn on September 24, 2014, 01:49:54 PM
Great fix Randy,...love it.  Baling wire and binder twine can fix almost anything.  Where you say your farm was located?

Jeff

We are in the "Cowboy Capitol of the World" of Oakdale, Ca. USA

Actually I went high tech a long time ago...that is .035 stainless steel safety wire; that way it doesn't rust in the carb.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

JohanH

Quote from: racerrad8 on September 24, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
Wow, that is a lot of work, but required if both posts are broken off.

Here is the solution I use and have been using for years...


I have never had a problem with this repair.

Randy - RPM

Thx Randy , that looks good. Unfortunately mine broke off about a two thirds down. Will load some pix tomorrow.

Johan

JPaganel

The really nice fix involves a mill - you mill down the broken post, drill a hole, thread it, and screw in a post.

Know any machinists?
1993 FJ1200 ABS

1984 FJ600, up on blocks

1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold
1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold


I don't want a pickle
I just want to ride my motorcicle

JohanH

Quote from: JPaganel on September 24, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
The really nice fix involves a mill - you mill down the broken post, drill a hole, thread it, and screw in a post.

Know any machinists?
Think I know what to do. >Drill pilot hole in body as well as post. Insert a dowel coated in pratley steel as well as building up the post a bit with it.

movenon

Quote from: JohanH on September 25, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: JPaganel on September 24, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
The really nice fix involves a mill - you mill down the broken post, drill a hole, thread it, and screw in a post.

Know any machinists?
Think I know what to do. >Drill pilot hole in body as well as post. Insert a dowel coated in pratley steel as well as building up the post a bit with it.

I don't think pratley steel will hold up.  Any deterioration or bits off it will plug your jets I am afraid.   This is not an FJ carb but you could (?) do a variation of this theme.  Grind both post's down.  Make a similar fitting it will become the hold down for the needle and seat. ?? Some work but doable.
http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11557
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

JohanH

Quote from: movenon on September 25, 2014, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: JohanH on September 25, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: JPaganel on September 24, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
The really nice fix involves a mill - you mill down the broken post, drill a hole, thread it, and screw in a post.

Know any machinists?
Think I know what to do. >Drill pilot hole in body as well as post. Insert a dowel coated in pratley steel as well as building up the post a bit with it.

I don't think pratley steel will hold up.  Any deterioration or bits off it will plug your jets I am afraid.   This is not an FJ carb but you could (?) do a variation of this theme.  Grind both post's down.  Make a similar fitting it will become the hold down for the needle and seat. ?? Some work but doable.
http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11557

Thx , that looks like a solution. Will see what I can do tonight. When I check compression on the motor, does it make a difference if the carbs are off.
George

oldktmdude

Quote from: JohanH on September 26, 2014, 01:00:46 AM


Thx , that looks like a solution. Will see what I can do tonight. When I check compression on the motor, does it make a difference if the carbs are off.

No, having them off just means that you don't have to hold the throttle open.  Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

JohanH

Quote from: JohanH on September 25, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: JPaganel on September 24, 2014, 03:37:57 PM
The really nice fix involves a mill - you mill down the broken post, drill a hole, thread it, and screw in a post.

Know any machinists?
Think I know what to do. >Drill pilot hole in body as well as post. Insert a dowel coated in pratley steel as well as building up the post a bit with it.

Ok, here is the broken off  post and some gaskets i made.

movenon

They beat the crap out of that one.  Is that the only carb with a broken post ? And which carb is it ? From left to right 1,2,3 or 4 ?  They can be micro welded also but I get the impression it costs 50 -80.00 U.S. to do plus there is shipping.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

jscgdunn

92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots