Adjusting fuel mixture screws, and synching questions

[Zwartie]

Just ride the fucker....

I vote this post of the year.

Zwartie

Which says more about you, than anyone else!

I'm sure you mean it says that I appreciate how Pat was able to express himself so eloquently and succinctly. Neil Peart couldn't have said it better himself!

[Country Joe]

 

[JoBrCo]

Just ride the fucker....

I vote this post of the year.

Zwartie

Which says more about you, than anyone else!

I'm sure you mean it says that I appreciate how Pat was able to express himself so eloquently and succinctly. Neil Peart couldn't have said it better himself!

I see, it wasn't about helping me, in this thread I started, asking for help, as much as it was about patting Pat on the back, got it!  Isn't this the first time you've tried to 'help' me?  If so, in my opinion there are in fact better ways to do so, which is in fact the topic of this thread, the need for help.

Somehow to my way of thinking...

"Just ride the fucker"

leaves much to be desired, in terms of actually conveying that one is concerned with helping someone, I would tend to call it 'crass' as opposed to eloquent, as that is in fact the first word that comes to mind, which in fact your intent seemed to convey as well.

The quote from Territories still stands as appropriate.

FJ Forever!   

JoBrCo

[JoBrCo]

FJ Forever!   
Popcorn kernel hulls stuck between ones teeth, never! 


JoBrCo

[fj1289]

I have to borrow a phrase from some Army SOF I had the priviledge of serving with:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you might not want to suck on its ass hard enough to make it internalize it"

Me thinks Pat's eloquent quote is simply he had already decided he didn't want to try anymore to facilitate the internalization process...me either

Good luck

[Flynt]

Just ride the fucker....

I vote this post of the year.

Zwartie

Which says more about you, than anyone else!

I'm sure you mean it says that I appreciate how Pat was able to express himself so eloquently and succinctly. Neil Peart couldn't have said it better himself!

I see, it wasn't about helping me, in this thread I started, asking for help, as much as it was about patting Pat on the back, got it!  Isn't this the first time you've tried to 'help' me?  If so, in my opinion there are in fact better ways to do so, which is in fact the topic of this thread, the need for help.

Somehow to my way of thinking...

"Just ride the fucker"

leaves much to be desired, in terms of actually conveying that one is concerned with helping someone, I would tend to call it 'crass' as opposed to eloquent, as that is in fact the first word that comes to mind, which in fact your intent seemed to convey as well.

The quote from Territories still stands as appropriate.

FJ Forever!  

JoBrCo

+1 for post of the year for Pat...  Ride that damned thing and save your house.  I think that's the best advice you're going to get here in a nutshell.

Frank

PS - starting to look like you're here to stir shit rather than get your bike running...  many have failed with that approach.

[oldktmdude]

PS - starting to look like you're here to stir shit rather than get your bike running...  many have failed with that approach.

JoBrCo, you're not the bloke from West Australia with the XJR, are you. If you're not, you sure are starting to sound like him.
   

[The General]

I have to borrow a phrase from some Army SOF I had the priviledge of serving with:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you might not want to suck on its ass hard enough to make it internalize it"

Me thinks Pat's eloquent quote is simply he had already decided he didn't want to try anymore to facilitate the internalization process...me either

Good luck

....or...borrow phrases from an another SOF with a cockortwo. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm6zIfcS7xI&list=PLNJmwVFwfFGObBZa5ekSO_1JM3mY8SMQj&index=5 

[fj1289]

I have to borrow a phrase from some Army SOF I had the priviledge of serving with:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you might not want to suck on its ass hard enough to make it internalize it"

Me thinks Pat's eloquent quote is simply he had already decided he didn't want to try anymore to facilitate the internalization process...me either

Good luck

....or...borrow phrases from an another SOF with a cockortwo. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm6zIfcS7xI&list=PLNJmwVFwfFGObBZa5ekSO_1JM3mY8SMQj&index=5 

[JoBrCo]

I have to borrow a phrase from some Army SOF I had the priviledge of serving with:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you might not want to suck on its ass hard enough to make it internalize it"

Me thinks Pat's eloquent quote is simply he had already decided he didn't want to try anymore to facilitate the internalization process...me either

Good luck

Yes some people do believe that helping people is a bother, those are never really in it for anyone other than themselves in the first place, but in truth you should speak only for yourself, Pat is perfectly capable on his own.  The ploy though is a very common one with groupism and cronyism.

Thanks for your help my friend, you're well on your way to the kingdom of heaven.

FJ Forever!   

JoBrCo

[JoBrCo]

Just ride the fucker....

I vote this post of the year.

Zwartie

Which says more about you, than anyone else!

I'm sure you mean it says that I appreciate how Pat was able to express himself so eloquently and succinctly. Neil Peart couldn't have said it better himself!

I see, it wasn't about helping me, in this thread I started, asking for help, as much as it was about patting Pat on the back, got it!  Isn't this the first time you've tried to 'help' me?  If so, in my opinion there are in fact better ways to do so, which is in fact the topic of this thread, the need for help.

Somehow to my way of thinking...

"Just ride the fucker"

leaves much to be desired, in terms of actually conveying that one is concerned with helping someone, I would tend to call it 'crass' as opposed to eloquent, as that is in fact the first word that comes to mind, which in fact your intent seemed to convey as well.

The quote from Territories still stands as appropriate.

FJ Forever!  

JoBrCo

+1 for post of the year for Pat...  Ride that damned thing and save your house.  I think that's the best advice you're going to get here in a nutshell.

Frank

PS - starting to look like you're here to stir shit rather than get your bike running...  many have failed with that approach.

Sorry you feel that way Frank, I originally thought you were one of the intelligent ones here, and could easily see when someone was simply DEFENDING themselves against naysayers. I thought you would be well above groupism and cronyism, supporting the misunderstood newbie in the name of whats right.  Like I've already said I've suffered from PTSD since the age of 4, and from Anxiety, though it would seem that many here have no idea what that means in terms of social situations where I'm attacked.  I can't seem to let it go, because at this point in my life, I'm sick of it.  My VA psychologist said that at 4 my brain was actually changed, so that It works differently that others, save those that have experienced the same thing.  I think it's a good thing that people kick the afflicted, when they're down, it shows them for what they really are.

When people, involved in groupism stop poking me with a stick, I'll stop DEFENDING myself, likewise!

Thanks for your help, my friend!  Or is that ex-friend, your call!

FJ Forever!   


JoBrCo

If only it weren't for the vultures of groupism and cronyism, everyone would understand happiness and love more readily.

[JoBrCo]

PS - starting to look like you're here to stir shit rather than get your bike running...  many have failed with that approach.

JoBrCo, you're not the bloke from West Australia with the XJR, are you. If you're not, you sure are starting to sound like him.
   

Well maybe that's just the ears of groupism and cronyism, your call! You're part of an already established group, while I'm the newbie here, just looking for the help of those that care to!  I'm just not anyone's plaything.

I think you guys should REALLY give it to me, my wife deserves it, way to treat a woman guys!  But ones self pride affected by groupism and cronyism is definitely more important.


FJ Forever!   

JoBrCo

Can you guys say, "MOB!"

[JoBrCo]

I have to borrow a phrase from some Army SOF I had the priviledge of serving with:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you might not want to suck on its ass hard enough to make it internalize it"

Me thinks Pat's eloquent quote is simply he had already decided he didn't want to try anymore to facilitate the internalization process...me either

Good luck

....or...borrow phrases from an another SOF with a cockortwo. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm6zIfcS7xI&list=PLNJmwVFwfFGObBZa5ekSO_1JM3mY8SMQj&index=5 

I have to borrow a phrase from some Army SOF I had the priviledge of serving with:

"You can lead a horse to water, but you might not want to suck on its ass hard enough to make it internalize it"

Me thinks Pat's eloquent quote is simply he had already decided he didn't want to try anymore to facilitate the internalization process...me either

Good luck

....or...borrow phrases from an another SOF with a cockortwo. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm6zIfcS7xI&list=PLNJmwVFwfFGObBZa5ekSO_1JM3mY8SMQj&index=5 

Netiquette dictates that we always stay on topic of the OP, and never try and derail the OP's topic for our own selfish needs.  But I understand how the human mind wanders, and I'm tolerant of those that deviate, because I do it too.  It's so easy to get sidetracked, we're only humans after all.

Thanks for the help guys.

FJ Forever!   

JoBrCo

[JoBrCo]

Guys I 'only' came here for help from kind people.  I know how the trials and tribulations of daily living, can test us, just look at my situation, I'm going mad here, dealing with this crap, my wife too.  Not everyone can give help, for many reasons.  I would seriously appreciate, only those truly interested in giving help, respond to any of my posts. Those that like to kick dead things, or those things they wish were dead, for what ever reason, I would ask to move along, and leave me alone.  My wife and I really don't need any more heartache, THANK YOU!


FJ Forever!   


JoBrCo 

[fj1289]

Guys I 'only' came here for help from kind people.  I know how the trials and tribulations of daily living, can test us, just look at my situation, I'm going mad here, dealing with this crap, my wife too.  Not everyone can give help, for many reasons.  I would seriously appreciate, only those truly interested in giving help, respond to any of my posts. Those that like to kick dead things, or those things they wish were dead, for what ever reason, I would ask to move along, and leave me alone.  My wife and I really don't need any more heartache, THANK YOU!


FJ Forever!   


JoBrCo 

"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week."

George S. Patton

You can definately drive yourself crazy and way overthink things trying to make each and every detail of an FJ the pinnacle of perfection. 

Tuning an aircooled dinosaur in the real world is really and truely about "good enough".   What is "good enough" is going to vary depending on how finicky a person is and to what degree they have modified things.    A stock FJ being used for commuter duties and weekend enjoyment has a very wide range of "good enough".  A highly modified FJ used with more serious intent has a much smaller window of "good enough".   

I'd say for anyone that is a new owner of a fairly stock FJ there are a few things to start with to make sure you are working from a good baseline.  Get a manual.  Get a new valve cover gasket, new valve cover bolt grommets, oil filter, oil, and a battery (unless it can be proved to be fairly new and I good condition) and a BUNCH of carb cleaner.  The replacement carb hardware and o-rings would also be wise (and may become a necessity depended on whether there are issues removing the old hardware).  Actually, the o-rings should be mandatory too. 

Clean the carbs.  Adjust the valves.  Clean the carbs.  Charge the battery and change the oil.  And then clean the carbs and you should be ready to get started with getting the new to you FJ running as it should.   

Get it started and warmed up to temp.  Adjust the idle as best you can.  Synch the carbs.  Go back to the idle.  Synch again if desired.  Adjust the idle if desired.  But don't be looking for perfection now -- you just want an engine that idles reliably and responds predictably to YOUR inputs.  Ride it for a few days then try tweaking the idle screws in or a a quarter turn.  Ride it for a few days and see how you do or don't like the change.  Tweak them another quarter turn in be same direction.   See how you like it.  Keep going until it runs as well as you want or it runs poorly.  In that case start going in the other direction until it runs as well as you want or runs poorly.  You will find that range of "good enough" and will know where in that range you are happiest. 

The most important thing is only change one thing at a time.   Write down what you changed.  Evaluate it.  Write down your observations.   Change one thing.  Evaluate it.   Write down your observations.   Repeat until things run to your satisfaction -- or in the case of a highly modified FJ -- until it runs as well as it can in the areas where it wasn't built for, and yanks your arms out in the areas it was built for!

A stock motored FJ is a good solid platform to learn the basics of tuning on - they are solid and dependable and very forgiving.   I'd also suggest to anyone not to start down the road of engine mods faster than your tuning knowledge and experience grows. 

What were your results from riding with the mixture screws adjusted to different positions? 

1. What is your initial setting?  What is your impression of how it performs at that setting?
2.  What setting did you try next?  What was your impression of performance at that setting?  How did it compare to the initial setting?
3.  What setting did you try next?  What was your impression of that setting?  How did it compare to the settings in 1. and 2. above?