Tail storage with backrest for a passenger?

[EBulyk]

Can't find a backrest for a passenger. Can anyone help?

[aviationfred]

I would say your best bet for a Back Rest is..... Get a Corbin Gunfighter and Lady with the Back Rest option. There is one currently for sale on eBay, $200.00.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-92-YAMAHA-FJ1100-fj1200-corbin-gunfighter-SEAT-very-nice-shape-/331270761149?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AFJ1200&hash=item4d2146aabd&vxp=mtr




RPM sells a rear luggage rack, I don't know if it gives enough space for the Corbin back rest to fit.

http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=FJ1200Rack

Hepco & Becker is another option. They offer a rear rack and a complete rack for hard saddle bags and a rear rack.

Rear rack only

http://www.motomachines.com/Rear-Rack--Yamaha-FJ-1100_p_2299.html

Complete saddlebag frame and rear rack.

http://www.motomachines.com/Complete-Rack--Yamaha-FJ-1100_p_2298.html

The luggage rack I have is the Hepco & Becker



This is the Back Rest that I have. It is NOT a Corbin brand, but it does fit in the Corbin Gunfighter and Lady seat. The angle is adjustable and it folds forward enough to allow my Top Box to open completely.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-Backrest-RED-TRIM-for-Corbin-Seat-Harley-Honda-Driver-Passenger-/191238690669?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c86b6d76d&vxp=mtr

Hope this info helps.

Fred

[EBulyk]

Thank you, that sure does help.

[FJ1100mjk]

Fred:

How (that is if it even does) does that luggage conglomeration affect your bike's handling? Loaded, un-loaded, at high speed, cornering, cross winds, etc.?

I run soft saddlebags, and a Motofizz seat bag, and the whole package affects handling in certain conditions.

Thanks

[aviationfred]

Fred:

How (that is if it even does) does that luggage conglomeration affect your bike's handling? Loaded, unloaded, at high speed, cornering, cross winds, etc.?


Thanks

With the hard bags unloaded, I barely notice they are there. When I load them, I make sure that the side bags are loaded closely with the same weight. I notice the extra weight a little. Cross winds do not effect it any more than if they were not installed. With the weight evenly distributed, corning is not much different.

Fred

[ribbert]

Fred:

How (that is if it even does) does that luggage conglomeration affect your bike's handling? Loaded, un-loaded, at high speed, cornering, cross winds, etc.?

I run soft saddlebags, and a Motofizz seat bag, and the whole package affects handling in certain conditions.

Thanks

These bikes are My bike is not very sensitive to loading. Even the set up below, which is very heavy and includes a 12 lt fuel bladder, oil, tools, spares, compressor etc and is very heavy and very high, has no effect on the handling or at speed or in windy conditions, I literally forget it's there (after the first wobble up the driveway that is)

Fred's arrangement by comparison is very slippery and much of the weight down low.

When you think about it, most of the luggage we carry weighs way less than a pillion, is lower on the bike and catches much less wind......(IMO)



Noel

[FJ1100mjk]

Noel

Wow, when you go, you go all out! Like me.

Pick before my epic ride out West. 5,000+miles, and nothing came off!



Hard luggage? What's that?

[FJmonkey]

I have one word... Yamabago.. Ed are you tuned in? Where are your Yamabego pics? 

[Capn Ron]

This is my FJ fully loaded up...



The Givi's don't really grab any wind that is noticeable anyway...Got around 48MPG on that trip...  The thing I did notice was the weight distribution.  For a very long trip, I'm packing clothing, food, tent, camping gear, cookware, tools, water, etc. . .   It quickly adds up!  I was very careful to pack the luggage evenly between the left and right cases, so that wasn't an issue at all.  If you're traveling alone and have soft luggage, you tend to throw them over the area where a passenger (pillion) would be, so the weight really isn't much different than having a passenger.  With the three hard-cases, they are all mounted *behind* the rear axle.  Load them up with 100+ pounds of gear and the front of the bike gets light.  NOTICEABLY light!   

The thing I noticed is if you're running a front tire that was slightly cupped, the weight shift to the rear brought on a low-speed, speed-wobble.  This happened immediately with a slightly cupped front tire before my big trip...so much so, that I bought new tires the day before I left.  Getting packed up for this year's WCR, I thought I would run a used front Avon Roadrider just to wring the last bit of value out of a tire that had plenty of tread left.  I clipped the three Givi cases on the back, pulled out of the driveway and INSTANT speed wobble.  I had the fortune of a support vehicle for the 600 mile trip north (Thank you Donna!!!) so I was able to run without the extra weight until I could fit a new tire up near Willits.

I have spent a good amount of time finding ways to reduce the amount I pack and the weight of each thing I do pack.  I also put all the heaviest items in the tank bag (water, tools, etc. . .) first.  The next area that's loaded are the side cases with a focus of putting heavy items low and as forward as possible.  The rear-most top case gets what's left over.

To add to the understanding here...The headset bearings are fresh and adjusted properly...the forks are set up properly with 1KG springs and the front wheel is lined up...I'm running the RPM fork brace and fresh bearings in both wheels...I'm running new swing arm bearings and there is no play there.  In each case when I experienced the front-end speed wobble it was:  1.  Scary as all hell  2.  Made worse by shifting loaded weight to the rear and 3.  Always cured by installing a fresh front tire.   

[FJmonkey]

It is always good to go to bed smarter than when we awoke that day.... 

[RD56]

One of my favorite domestic wines, hope you loaded those bags up!!!

[Capn Ron]

It is always good to go to bed smarter than when we awoke that day.... 

Couldn't possibly agree more!  

[Capn Ron]

One of my favorite domestic wines, hope you loaded those bags up!!!

It's my favorite as well and if I'm being honest it's the REAL weight problem in the Givi's I struggle with!      I'm actually having a glass as I write this!   



Derek and Donna did a tasting at the winery yesterday!!!  I was SO tempted to ride up and join them!   

[Derek Young]

One of my favorite domestic wines, hope you loaded those bags up!!!

It's my favorite as well and if I'm being honest it's the REAL weight problem in the Givi's I struggle with!      I'm actually having a glass as I write this!   



Derek and Donna did a tasting at the winery yesterday!!!  I was SO tempted to ride up and join them!   

What a beautiful winery! Located in Woodinville Washington, a very scenic area not far from Seattle.
Highly recommended if you like wineries and/or wine.
Of course the trip would have been made way better with a guest appearance from the Capn

Derek

[Steve_in_Florida]

This is my FJ fully loaded up...

...when I experienced the front-end speed wobble it was:  1.  Scary as all hell  2.  Made worse by shifting loaded weight to the rear and 3.  Always cured by installing a fresh front tire. 

I encountered this VERY thing a couple of times on my first FJ in Germany, on the autobahn, with Givi hard luggage. I noticed the bike was very sensitive to having any sort of weight in the center bag, as it was high and so far back.

I also had a slight incident returning from the most recent Central FJ Rally in Arkansas. No problem, just a slight "tank slapping" while attempting to ride one-handed through a toll lane (holding my toll transponder with the other hand as I passed).

New rubber is in my future.

Steve