Blue dot calipers

[Tex]

Does any one know where I can find a set of Blue dot calipers for a 93 FJABS? I tried looking around and no luck. Thanks.

[jscgdunn]

Check these out:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-2004-Yamaha-YZF-R6-06-09-R6S-Front-Brake-Calipers-Pads-OEM-Free-S-H-Z401-/301137625773

[Dads_FJ]

ebay is your friend... can usually find them loaded (with pads already) pretty cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOTH-FRONT-BRAKE-CALIPERS-YAMAHA-R1-01-YZF-1000-FAST-FREE-SHIPPING-/251494932953?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a8e4421d9&vxp=mtr

[IceFJ]

Sorry for Hijacking the thread, but....
I have been thinking about the blue dots as well but not sure if they will fit my 86 Fj
will I be able to use them as well on my original lower forks?

[jscgdunn]

Nope,  without adapters you 89 or later lowers.  Best to covert the later 17 inch wheel with the forks.

Jeff

[Tex]

Ok so what year blue dots am I looking for that will fit on a 93 Fj? I have the ABS but will be bypassing. Do I need new rotors? Can I still use my same rim? So this Mod is it done on the front brakes? Must leave the rear alone? I am so confused. I have read so many threads on blue dots tvat now I'm just lost.

[aviationfred]

Ok so what year blue dots am I looking for that will fit on a 93 Fj? I have the ABS but will be bypassing. Do I need new rotors? Can I still use my same rim? So this Mod is it done on the front brakes? Must leave the rear alone? I am so confused. I have read so many threads on blue dots tvat now I'm just lost.

Scott (Tex),

You are all good. Blue Dots are plug and play for the 93'. Your rotors and rim should be ok.

Jeff's comment was aimed at IceFJ.

Fred

[Tex]

Ok so when ordering braided brake line. Where would you guys get it from and how do I order. Should I order line for a 1992 Fj nonABS? Seeing I'm getting rid of my ABS on the 93? Also do you guys upgrade the rear caliper? Or leave it stock?

[fintip]

Leave the rear caliper stock, unless you really wanted to shave off a little weight. You don't need any extra stopping power on the rear, you'll just lock it up faster.

blue dots just fit ('89 and later). You buy them, remove the stock calipers, bolt on the blue dots. Connect the banjo and bleed. Done. 

Noel and I would both recommend you get an upgraded master cylinder to go with it... Having only changed the master cylinder to the one that came with the blue dots, even though it technically doesn't push enough fluid to quite lock up my front wheel (and is this incompatible with stock calipers), the feel and difference it provides is astounding. Noel speculates that the calipers don't actually change much. But even if they do, I can tell you that the master cylinder certainly provides a huge part of the upgrade. The '02 YZF-R6 came with a radial 14mm master cylinder (though a 19mm is yet a further upgrade) that worked with the blue dots, and that's what I have referred to above. You might find a complete set of calipers and that MC together pretty cheaply on ebay.

[Tex]

  Dam. I ordered the blue dots before I read your post Fintop. I saw a couple with the master.  Now I'm going to have to find a master.  Does Anyone out there have one? Hopefully I can find one by its self on eBay.

[motohorseman]

Oh boy, this does look like something I need to be considering......

Search, you're my friend....

[Tex]

Also if I get a upgraded mc is it just bolt on and go or does it need to be modified?

[ribbert]

Also do you guys upgrade the rear caliper? Or leave it stock?

Yes and no. Many people, including myself, find the stock rear brake too good. So the most common upgrade is in fact a downgrade to a less efficient rear brake.

I always found the stock rear too touchy. Most of the wheels used for 17" conversions come with much smaller discs. Although this is incidental, it does give a more moderate rear brake.

I would not suggest you do anything to improve the efficiency of the standard rear brake.

Noel

[Tex]

Noel when putting on the new SS line how do I bypass ABS? Also would you know what SS brake line I need to order for the whole bike. Remember I am bypassing ABS so do I just order line for a 92 non ABS?

[ribbert]

Noel when putting on the new SS line how do I bypass ABS? Also would you know what SS brake line I need to order for the whole bike. Remember I am bypassing ABS so do I just order line for a 92 non ABS?

I can really only quote my own bike experience here. I ordered lines from a manufacturer that had a specific make / model listing for my bike, they were miles too long. Even routing them the longest way possible, across to the left and down (like Pat's I think), they were still too long. Parts no's were checked, lengths checked, they were the correct lines, of which they sell plenty. No problem changing them over but I'm in Aus and they came from the UK. Thankfully postage wasn't too bad.

Anyway, I did what my gut told me I should have done in the first place (actually, I was being lazy and paid the price), measure them myself. They re-sent new lines to the lengths I gave them are they are perfect.

I think I wrote recently that I don't see any value in premium brands for this sort of thing but I strongly recommend getting adjustable banjo's. If you need to twist these lines to get them lined up they kick out and are under constant stress.
I bought Venhill lines, they are very well priced and do the job.

When measuring and fitting them, do so with the front wheel off the ground so the travel (hose length) is at it longest.

Noel