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SoCal Fix-Up: The Next Generation

Started by threejagsteve, October 26, 2009, 05:01:20 AM

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andyb

Neg, that was after.  He had a 1250 motor with headwork and cams and around 45 from a bottle.  If I remember correctly he hit 150 but lost a clutch in the process.

I also seem to remember him running insane gearing, like 16/47 or some such.  I have to think that would have put ungodly forces on the swingarm, if the tire could stay hooked. 

Anyone have a working link to Jaroz's bike, Black Sunshine?  It used to be on Amy's site if nothing else, but my links ain't no good no mo`... boo.

threejagsteve

Quote from: andyb on October 27, 2009, 12:23:02 PM

Neg, that was after.  He had a 1250 motor with headwork and cams and around 45 from a bottle.  If I remember correctly he hit 150 but lost a clutch in the process.


Oh, well. I was hoping somebody could at least claim 200hp out of an FJ. :wacko1:
"If you wanna bark with the big dogs, you can't pee with the puppies!"

racerman_27410

I have a 1349cc engine  (stock valve sizes) and i'm getting 162 at the rear wheel with 115 lb ft of torque on pump gas. 10.25 compression


Andy York also has a 1349cc with oversize valves and higher compression.... while his torque numbers aren't as good as mine (still around 100 lb ft) he has me on the big end with 175hp +


i'm sure his motor is at 200 hp at the crank and mine is probably real close....maybe even over if i ran some good fuel thru it.

if you plan on building a monster motor it's best to start out with a crate 1250 motor..... i mean you can replace every single piece inside and still have 20 yr old engine cases.


Kookaloo!  (like ya mean it    :biggrin:)


Frank

rktmanfj

Quote from: andyb on October 27, 2009, 12:23:02 PM
Neg, that was after.  He had a 1250 motor with headwork and cams and around 45 from a bottle.  If I remember correctly he hit 150 but lost a clutch in the process.

I also seem to remember him running insane gearing, like 16/47 or some such.  I have to think that would have put ungodly forces on the swingarm, if the tire could stay hooked. 

Anyone have a working link to Jaroz's bike, Black Sunshine?  It used to be on Amy's site if nothing else, but my links ain't no good no mo`... boo.



Yeah, in its last form before catastrophe...

IDK if he ever got it dynoed after the supercharger or not, but I don't think so.

http://www.reservoirdogs.ca/blacksunshine.htm

Randy T
Indy

FJmonkey

Quote from: threejagsteve on October 27, 2009, 03:35:43 PM
Quote from: andyb on October 27, 2009, 12:23:02 PM

Neg, that was after.  He had a 1250 motor with headwork and cams and around 45 from a bottle.  If I remember correctly he hit 150 but lost a clutch in the process.


Oh, well. I was hoping somebody could at least claim 200hp out of an FJ. :wacko1:

Steve, why not 1000 HP.....http://www.kingracing.com/ :shout:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

threejagsteve

Quote from: rktmanfj on October 27, 2009, 06:56:20 PM

Yeah, in its last form before catastrophe...

Catastrophe?

Sure was purdy... don't know that I'd've gone for a chrome gas tank, but looks to have been an engineering marvel!

Oh, and Frank, those numbers you mentioned, and your description of your launch, make me think you must be in the low 9s, or even the high 8s!


Quote from: FJmonkey on October 27, 2009, 08:16:37 PM

Steve, why not 1000 HP.....http://www.kingracing.com/ :shout:

Ah, but Mark, although that motor might be "based on" the FJ design, it's all Puma this and billet that - the only production bike parts mentioned in the specs are the Gixxer forks, so if it could be called anything, it's as much a Suzuki as anything else!

"If you wanna bark with the big dogs, you can't pee with the puppies!"

racerman_27410

Torque is my friend  :biggrin:

  there have been a few bikes beside me that thought their brakes were draggin' when the light turned green.... i mean how could an antique air cooled motorcycle WITH LUGGAGE and a KUKALU! license plate  possibly get out of the hole that fast? ?

Life is good when you KOokaloo! 

rktmanfj

Quote from: threejagsteve on October 27, 2009, 09:09:10 PM
Quote from: rktmanfj on October 27, 2009, 06:56:20 PM

Yeah, in its last form before catastrophe...

Catastrophe?

Sure was purdy... don't know that I'd've gone for a chrome gas tank, but looks to have been an engineering marvel!

Oh, and Frank, those numbers you mentioned, and your description of your launch, make me think you must be in the low 9s, or even the high 8s!


I looked through the archives, but couldn't find Jon's post on exactly what happened, but IIRC, the engine sneezed, and very bad things happened inside.

If you have time, go over and search 'Black Sunshine'... there's lots of entertaining posts there about the build.

Randy T
Indy



racerman_27410

I believe Black Sunshines demise occured when a connecting rod made a new and rather large crankcase vent in the front of the engine.

rktmanfj

Quote from: racerman_27410 on October 27, 2009, 10:19:19 PM
I believe Black Sunshines demise occured when a connecting rod made a new and rather large crankcase vent in the front of the engine.

There's a video of it featured on a TV show on this page, with an interview with Jon:

http://www.reservoirdogs.ca/video.html

Randy T
Indy

FJmonkey

Which video of the many is the correct one?

:mail1:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

rktmanfj

Quote from: FJmonkey on October 27, 2009, 10:41:16 PM
Which video of the many is the correct one?

:mail1:


Try the one that says BLACK SUNSHINE.

Randy T
Indy

threejagsteve

Quote from: rktmanfj on October 27, 2009, 10:29:30 PM

There's a video of it featured on a TV show on this page, with an interview with Jon:

http://www.reservoirdogs.ca/video.html

Randy T
Indy

Yes, probably the ultimate modded FJ... The telltale line was when he said, "Cost? About $45k (!!!)." Speed costs money; how fast do you want to go? ;)

But back on topic, has anyone ever tried using the swingarm from an 89-96 FZR100?
"If you wanna bark with the big dogs, you can't pee with the puppies!"

threejagsteve

"If you wanna bark with the big dogs, you can't pee with the puppies!"

racerman_27410

Quote from: threejagsteve on October 28, 2009, 06:54:12 PM
Oops; of course I meant FZR1000!



yup..... Steve Conklin tried one.....lots of interference from the bracing... shock is at the wrong angle thru the swingarm etc etc etc.... he did it......... but now has a FZ1 swingarm on his FJ.


KOokaloo!

Frank