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'85 Fj1100 excessive shock linkage wear

Started by mr blackstock, January 30, 2014, 12:20:57 AM

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mr blackstock

The saga continues!  I phoned up Bursons auto supplies looking for redline grease, and even though the web says they supply it, after phoning three stores to be told it is unavailable, one of the sales guys at last told me that Bursons will not order the product because redline only supply the grease in cartons of 24, and he said the stores simply cannot move that many tubes of grease, therefore they will not order it for customers.  He suggested I contact a high performance garage to see if they sell it.

Thats when I called it quits! :mad:  On the way home from work I stopped at the thieving mongrels "repco" and bought a tube of Castrol spheerol LMM.  I am aware that I could order from overseas, but I ride the bike to work, and a month off the road is no good. 

I have already dismantled the shock linkages, soon I will clean and reassemble.  In a years time I will rip it all apart and look at the difference in wear.

It really does piss me off that in a world with hundreds of options and products available, it is still so hard to get any of it.  Hell, I can buy different stuff in the U.S via fleabay, but the postage is over the top and takes almost a month to arrive.  The U.K is not much better. :diablo:

So, bugger it.  I will use products that big companies have decided are what I need, I will believe advertising, I will not think outside the square, I will not explore different ways of doing things, I will forsake small companies with great products. :dash2:

But I am going to go the needle bearing conversion.....  :good2:

Cheers, Gareth
Squeaky wheels always get the grease...

Yamaha FJ1100 1985

movenon

Sorry to hear about all the problems Gareth.  I haven't read the spec's but in the past I have also used Amsoil syn. grease. The old FJ Yamaha service manual that I am looking at says to use "Lithium soap based grease" service at 19,000 km (12,000 miles) or every 19 months.....

There are a LOT better greases to use now days for sure, I just wanted to tell you what I read. There is a Red Line distributor down the road from here I will stop by next time I head that direction.  I stopped by there place last summer and it was wall to wall Red line box's, I made a comment that it looked like the Red Line sales guy got to you :), he laughed and no we are a distributor. They are also an import car parts dealer.

For anyone that hasn't done the job it's not that hard to do.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

ribbert

Gareth, I can understand our Northern snow bound, ice bound, temperature bound colleagues with their enforced off season and suffering from PMS and cabin fever making a big deal out this but this Orstraylya mate.

The high load, low speed, limited movement of this makes a chassis grease the right choice.
Go to an agricultural machinery dealer or heavy transport truck joint and ask them for a paper cup full of whatever they use for chassis lubrication. It's a fair bet they have researched out the good stuff to look after their million dollar machines.

There are no shortage of these places up your way.

DO NOT ask a farmer!

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Arnie

Quote from: ribbert on January 31, 2014, 06:42:42 PM

Go to an agricultural machinery dealer or heavy transport truck joint and ask them for a paper cup full of whatever they use for chassis lubrication. It's a fair bet they have researched out the good stuff to look after their million dollar machines.

DO NOT ask a farmer!

Noel

Are you implying that most/many farmers will use whatever crap they find at the supermarket or Kmart as long as its cheap?  OR are you saying they won't use anything and will wait for the shaft to wear through?

Gee, you don't seem to have a high opinion of the "man on the land".

mr blackstock

Thats a really good tip about the agricultural companies, I imagine they would have everything needed, from grease to additives to silicone.

I might even phone up a couple of local places to see if they sell stuff off the shelf.  Thanks for the tip.

Cheers, Gareth
Squeaky wheels always get the grease...

Yamaha FJ1100 1985

movenon

Here's some Red Line dealers in OZ. I notice that a lot of bicycle shops also use it (they are into reduceing friction)

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=111287070568622443956.0004839adf48b0af5c306

George :drinks:
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

ribbert

Quote from: Arnie on January 31, 2014, 06:46:55 PM

Are you implying that most/many farmers will use whatever crap they find at the supermarket or Kmart as long as its cheap?  OR are you saying they won't use anything and will wait for the shaft to wear through?

Gee, you don't seem to have a high opinion of the "man on the land".


A farmer wouldn't bother with the trip to town, he would find something on the property, sheep dip, molasses, anything, as long as it was sticky and the right colour and he would find a way to incorporate baling twine and fencing wire into it.

Or, as you say, ignore it until it breaks then start hunting around for baling twine and fencing wire.......

I have an extremely high opinion of the "man on the land" for their self sufficiency, resilience and tenacity. I have seen many examples of ingenuity, cobbling things together to keep them running, that are truly brilliant. They are also masters of adapting unrelated parts to a job. Just give him a bigger hammer and drag out the oxy!
Unencumbered by knowing the right way to fix something, they just do what seems obvious with what they can find lying around. The price of these sort of repairs appeals to them too, and no down time.

Give a farmer an old arc welder, a few basic tools, a very big hammer and decades worth of discarded farm implements and junk (and some baling twine and fencing wire) and they can fix anything.

Farmers are very well represented as inventors too. Having to find their own solutions most of the time out of necessity, it conditions their minds to think that way.

It is also the most dangerous job in the country with more accidental deaths (by a lot) than any other profession.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

movenon

Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

movenon

I picked up a tub (14oz) of Red line CV-2 locally here for 11.95  (12.67 with tax).  Probably last me a long time.... I will get a tube of it when my grease gun is empty.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

bcguide

Red line, first saw when I worked in the hospital laundry. You couldn't get it to melt heating it on a spoon but use it on the big ole steam ironer and it would run
like water

movenon

Quote from: bcguide on February 04, 2014, 12:59:32 AM
Red line, first saw when I worked in the hospital laundry. You couldn't get it to melt heating it on a spoon but use it on the big ole steam ironer and it would run
like water

They advertise a 800 degree drop point!  The distributor said they use it a lot in CV joint's.  I will give the stuff a try in my swing arm bearings when I get that far.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200