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If anyone has any advise I would appreciate it.

Started by JPerez, December 02, 2013, 01:11:15 AM

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JPerez

I know this isnt a forum for FJ600, it is a forum for its bigger brother but i need some help. I am in the the process of rebuilding a 1984 FJ600 and I am having some issues with the front brake assembly. I got the brake lever unstuck but I noticed the spring thats inside is stuck and the pin that drives the spring back and forth is also stuck. Any advice on how to free this up? Here is the link if what I am talking about. http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/jpere ... t=3&page=1

FJmonkey

Welcome, some members here don't even have an FJ so don't worry about fitting in. The link you provided is incomplete. Try using tinyURL http://tinyurl.com/ enter your link, click the button next to it, then copy and paste the new shorter link here.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

rktmanfj

See that snap ring in the bore (2nd pic)?

Get a pair of snap ring pliers and remove it, then you should be able to pull out the complete piston assembly.

As nasty as that looks, I'd count on getting a rebuild kit for it before reassembly.

If you still have the old OEM rubber lines, you should replace those, and strip out the calipers and inspect them as well, IMO.







Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


movenon

Quote from: FJmonkey on December 02, 2013, 08:16:33 AM
Welcome, some members here don't even have an FJ so don't worry about fitting in. The link you provided is incomplete. Try using tinyURL http://tinyurl.com/ enter your link, click the button next to it, then copy and paste the new shorter link here.

I agree. Don't worry about not fitting in. You are in...  :good2:. From what I see if you want to fit in then that's all it takes. At the WCR there was an Aprillia, BMW, Harley oh and yes a smattering of red and white FJ's  :lol:. I wasn't there at the time but I think a lost soul on an FJR was riding by and was ambushed by the group to join in. "Its not the bike, it's the members".  :good2: :good2:

As noted by "not a lib" take the master cylinder apart and clean it real good then put a kit in it. With the clip off it should come apart easy. Let us know what you find out and good on you for asking questions first.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

JPerez

http://s1316.photobucket.com/user/jperez1229/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2013-12-01195236_zpsa945bc62.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Sorry about the bad link. I have already took apart the front and back calipers and have a kit on the way for them. I planned on replacing the OEM lines as well. I will get a set of snap ring pliers and remove the piston. I will look on the net for a kit before I reassemble.  Thanks for the help. I appreciate it.

aviationfred

The front brake master cylinder is the same on the FJ600 and FJ1100/1200's. Here is a link to a rebuild kit from Randy at RPM. He is a member here.

http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AFRTBRKRBKIT

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

JPerez

Thanks for the link fred. I will be ordering that on friday along with a few other things I need.

JPerez

So I am trying to remove the pin thats stuck in my master cylinder but I cant figure out how to remove it. Theres no bolts or anything to take it apart and the only way it looks like it can come out theres a ring with four tabs that looks likeits blocking it. Does anyone know how to remove this?

aviationfred

To the best of my knowledge. Remove the clip and all the pieces should pull out. If it is completely stuck and will not come out. I have 2 spare OEM front calipers that worked just fine when I removed them. If interested PM me.

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

FJscott

Quote from: JPerez on December 07, 2013, 02:59:27 PM
So I am trying to remove the pin thats stuck in my master cylinder but I cant figure out how to remove it. Theres no bolts or anything to take it apart and the only way it looks like it can come out theres a ring with four tabs that looks likeits blocking it. Does anyone know how to remove this?

I believe you are referring to the snap ring. you will need a pair of snap ring pliers to remove and then reinstall. just take the MC down to your local parts store and they should be able to sell you the correct pair needed. they are not expensive

Scott

JPerez

Alright I will go to the auto parts store and see what they have. Thanks.

rktmanfj

Quote from: aviationfred on December 07, 2013, 03:26:18 PMI have 2 spare OEM front calipers that worked just fine when I removed them. If interested PM me.

Fred

Unless they're the OEM '87 1200 calipers, I don't think they'll fit the FJ600... not even sure then.   :unknown:

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


aviationfred

Quote from: not a lib on December 07, 2013, 05:48:01 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on December 07, 2013, 03:26:18 PMI have 2 spare OEM front calipers that worked just fine when I removed them. If interested PM me.

Fred

Unless they're the OEM '87 1200 calipers, I don't think they'll fit the FJ600... not even sure then.   :unknown:



Thanks for posting that. I missed stated what I had. I meant, I have 2 OEM front brake Master Cylinders.

The 84' FJ600 and 89' FJ1200 front brake master Cylinders are the same part number.

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor


JPerez

Thanks for all the advice. I went and got some snap ring pliers and removed the ring but the pole is still stuck. I tried some needle nose pliers to try to pull it out but i stopped cuz i didnt want to damage something withouy asking first. should I use something else? Thanks again for the help.