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Custom molded headlight lens

Started by Paul1965, September 20, 2013, 03:46:45 PM

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Paul1965


Well, I finally got the finale estimate for having a new lens molded. And while they would be only $45 each, setup and pattern costs completely blow the price out of proportion. At a total of $750 for having 6 lenses made I can't help but think they priced it so high so they could get out of doing such a little job. So it's back to making my own forming table and see what happens.
1978 Yamaha 400 Sold
1984 Yamaha Maxim 400 Blew up
1982 Yamaha Vision Sold
1983 Kawasaki GPz1100 Sold
1984 Yamaha FJ1100 Killed it
1991 Yamaha FJ1200 Sold
2009 Triumph Sprint ST Sold
2014 Triumph Trophy SE

fj11.5

That's only slightly higher than the quote I got for having a bellypan and mould made,,, good  luck making your own, id still be interested if you make extras

Rod
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Paul1965

Quote from: fj11.5 on September 24, 2013, 04:16:42 PM
That's only slightly higher than the quote I got for having a bellypan and mould made,,, good  luck making your own, id still be interested if you make extras

Rod

I really think it's a matter of them not understanding what I'm asking for. I exchanged a few more emails with them after getting the quote, and they're thinking they needed to vent the glass and do some other special setup work to make the mold. My donor headlight should be here Thursday, so I'm popping the lens off and heading back Friday to show them what it looks like outside the bike.
1978 Yamaha 400 Sold
1984 Yamaha Maxim 400 Blew up
1982 Yamaha Vision Sold
1983 Kawasaki GPz1100 Sold
1984 Yamaha FJ1100 Killed it
1991 Yamaha FJ1200 Sold
2009 Triumph Sprint ST Sold
2014 Triumph Trophy SE

fj11.5

Fingers crossed once they see what your actually after the price will drop, I wouldn't of thought vents would be needed
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Paul1965

The donor headlight arrived today and the lens has already been removed. I'll stop by the molder tomorrow afternoon and see what they say.
1978 Yamaha 400 Sold
1984 Yamaha Maxim 400 Blew up
1982 Yamaha Vision Sold
1983 Kawasaki GPz1100 Sold
1984 Yamaha FJ1100 Killed it
1991 Yamaha FJ1200 Sold
2009 Triumph Sprint ST Sold
2014 Triumph Trophy SE

fj11.5

Excellent, thanks for the update mate
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

keand3

Cant wait to hear the result!
This might be the most tempting mod for me this winter :good2:
Whant to check out my photos on the bike??
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=828DDEC8DF631CA5%21103

Charlie-brm

Just wondering if there has been progress on the projector / OEM lens fabrication project.

A friend put 2 HID projectors in a Suzuki TL1000 behind a replacement "lens" for the TL1000 he found online that has no lens facets or lines, ie plain high impact plastic like a helmet visor so the projector can do its thing without scattering.
I will tell you he spent a lot of trial cutting and fitting to bike plastic to mount the projectors in the frame and also sealing the replacement lens into the body work. But the results are scary bright and distinctive.
If someone wants to see any images I refer to in posts, first check my gallery here. If no bueno, send me a PM. More than glad to share.
Current Model: 1990 FJ1200 3CV since 2020
Past Models: 1984 FJ1100 - 2012 to 2020
1979 XS750SF - 2005 to 2012

movenon

Quote from: Paul1965 on September 26, 2013, 07:07:12 PM
The donor headlight arrived today and the lens has already been removed. I'll stop by the molder tomorrow afternoon and see what they say.

How did you remove the lens ? Heat gun?
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

Paul1965

Quote from: movenon on April 13, 2014, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: Paul1965 on September 26, 2013, 07:07:12 PM
The donor headlight arrived today and the lens has already been removed. I'll stop by the molder tomorrow afternoon and see what they say.

How did you remove the lens ? Heat gun?
George

Hi George. Yes, just a few minutes with a heat gun and the adhesive was soft enough to pop the lens off. I've got a vacuum table made, just haven't had the time to build the frame necessary to hold the plastic.
1978 Yamaha 400 Sold
1984 Yamaha Maxim 400 Blew up
1982 Yamaha Vision Sold
1983 Kawasaki GPz1100 Sold
1984 Yamaha FJ1100 Killed it
1991 Yamaha FJ1200 Sold
2009 Triumph Sprint ST Sold
2014 Triumph Trophy SE

movenon

So I guess you are going to end up with a clear lens as are on the newer cars and adapt a projector bulb on to the back side ?  Sounds interesting for sure.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

delarbreavous

Fluctuat nec mergitur

simi_ed

Quote from: movenon on April 14, 2014, 03:11:40 PM
So I guess you are going to end up with a clear lens as are on the newer cars and adapt a projector bulb on to the back side ?  Sounds interesting for sure.
George
+1 on this.  Forgive me if I'm covering old ground here, but this seems important for this project.

I am sure you know that all of the focusing of the beam takes place in the fluted lens on a stock FJ headlight, while the newer "projector" lamps all use the reflector to focus the light.  It has to happen somewhere, or else it's gonna look like a 40 incandescent bulb in your table lamp, except brighter & LESS focused. 
-- RKBA Regards,

Ed
===
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Simi Valley, CA -- I no longer have SoCal manners.
'89 FJ12C (Theft deterrent Silver/White)


- All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for
enough good men to do nothing.

- Edmund Burke

Paul1965

Quote from: movenon on April 14, 2014, 03:11:40 PM
So I guess you are going to end up with a clear lens as are on the newer cars and adapt a projector bulb on to the back side ?  Sounds interesting for sure.
George

George that's exactly correct. In fact, I'm almost toying with cutting the back completely off the old housing itself (where the bulb mounts) and make a new one that will allow the installation of 2 projectors instead of just one. I've been watching a dual kit on eBay for a while now and I'm pretty confident they'll both fit. It's just with all the other stuff I've got going on I haven't had the time to get around to making a frame and testing out my table and the whole vacuum forming process. In fact I might just say the heck with it and try fitting some high impact plastic directly to the fairing instead, but I don't think it will work as well.
1978 Yamaha 400 Sold
1984 Yamaha Maxim 400 Blew up
1982 Yamaha Vision Sold
1983 Kawasaki GPz1100 Sold
1984 Yamaha FJ1100 Killed it
1991 Yamaha FJ1200 Sold
2009 Triumph Sprint ST Sold
2014 Triumph Trophy SE

movenon

Keep up the good work.  It all has to start somewhere.  Modifications are that way.  Working on a couple myself.  Sometimes its just takes a while to figure things out.  Persistence Paul..  :drinks:  Hell,  if it was easy it wouldn't be interesting.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200