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Will a 3xw-abs take an ally swing arm?

Started by nurse, September 11, 2013, 04:37:39 PM

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nurse

Forgot to ask, does anyone happen to know if the 4 swingarm bearing part numbers are the same for the ally arm as they are on the 93. I only have a parts fische for the 3xw (93)

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racerrad8

Quote from: nurse on October 14, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
Forgot to ask, does anyone happen to know if the 4 swingarm bearing part numbers are the same for the ally arm as they are on the 93. I only have a parts fische for the 3xw (93)

There are only two bearings in the swing arm, 84-93 Rear Arm Bushing Bearing

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Pat Conlon

What about the bearings on the pivot shaft?
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aviationfred

Quote from: nurse on October 14, 2013, 04:27:31 PM
Forgot to ask, does anyone happen to know if the 4 swingarm bearing part numbers are the same for the ally arm as they are on the 93. I only have a parts fische for the 3xw (93)



Here is the swing arm diagram for the 89'90'. The 4 bearings #20 that are used on the relay arm pivot points, are the same for the 88' and later FJ's, and the 2 bearings #3 that are at the swing arm mount points are the same for all years of FJ1100/1200's.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1989/FJ1200W/SWING+ARM/parts.html

Fred

I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

racerrad8

Ahhh, there is my lack of experience on the late model swing arm. The early model only uses the two bearings in the swingarm and the relay linkage is where the bearing are located on that set up.

On the late model they have the relay linkage bearing in the swing arm and fit 89-92 Rear Arm Bearing. And to Fred's point, that is bearing #20 and they do not work on the early model bikes...I think that is what he was trying to say

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nurse

Brief footnote for those that may swop onto an older but lighter ally swing arm.  In addition to the swing arm it self and the chain adjusters, you will also need the washer that sits between the castle nut and the swingarm.  The washer on the 93 is larger and will not sit properly when re installed.  All other bits should be fine.

On a different note I had the gsxr rear in my 93 Swingarm and have swapped it to the ally swinger.  I had two spacers which sat snugly between the swinger and the sprocket on the chain side of the wheel on the 93.  Now this set up has been swooped over and sits inside the ally arm the two spacers needed a lot more encouragement to fit. 
Can anyone offer any wisdom as to wether you think this may offset the centering of the rear wheel?
A life has been well lived, if you have planted trees under who's shade you do not expect to sit.

I'm told I'm cynical, pessimistic and generally miserable. I say that I'm realistic! The fact that reality sucks is not my fault!

aviationfred

I have a 89' 3CV and use the GSXR750 rear wheel. I used the mod directions exactly as the file was written.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3380.0

As far as I can tell my chain alignment is good. I have put about 6000 miles on the new chain and sprocket with no noticeable odd wear patterns.

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

nurse

Quote from: aviationfred on January 24, 2014, 09:51:59 AM
I have a 89' 3CV and use the GSXR750 rear wheel. I used the mod directions exactly as the file was written.

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=3380.0

As far as I can tell my chain alignment is good. I have put about 6000 miles on the new chain and sprocket with no noticeable odd wear patterns.

Fred

This is how mine sits, so I shall run it in the new arm and see how it goes! 

Cheers Fred
A life has been well lived, if you have planted trees under who's shade you do not expect to sit.

I'm told I'm cynical, pessimistic and generally miserable. I say that I'm realistic! The fact that reality sucks is not my fault!