Ethanol laced fuel: The corn lobby is at it again.

[racerrad8]

This is also know as "phase separation".

This is occurring naturally just from riding and condensation after parking.

The water evaporates above the hot engine.  Then condenses on the top of the tank as the heat disapates, the water returns to the fuel.

This causes the phase separation. I found this when I was presented the only fuel treatment to prevent the phase separation, K100.

Google phase separation, there is some pretty good info about it.

The biggest issue I see about trying to separate the fuel before using, it the octane. The ethanol is an octane booster. So if you bought 92 octane and remove the ethanol, is the base gasoline 70 octane?

That is going to be the hardest question to figure out.

Randy - RPM

[Troyskie]

I did specifically ask about that.

He said the octane will remain the same when talking e10.

I think you are right about the octane rating dropping. But at the e10 level it won't be much, so starting with higher octane e10s should still give a high octane normal petrol. I'm not sure what you have in the US but here, outside of aviation 98 is the highest readily available.

The more I read the more worried I am about ethanol additive fuel for remote places. What I've just read basically says the petrol/ethanol will separate (yeah phase...) within 100 days! So unless there is some sort of sophisticated 'stirring' going on the e10 etc. bought at the only petrol station in town might leave you calling for help!

In the city who cares unless you are parking up the vehicle for months at a time. As there is not the winter weather here that you guys get we ride all year and the ethanol is probably not such an issue. I can however see real issues in the bush/red dirt where the temp can vary by 40 degree C in a day and a tanker load of petrol not be fully used for months.

[Sparky84]

The more I read the more worried I am about ethanol additive fuel for remote places. What I've just read basically says the petrol/ethanol will separate (yeah phase...) within 100 days! So unless there is some sort of sophisticated 'stirring' going on the e10 etc. bought at the only petrol station in town might leave you calling for help!

With Australian fuel stocks for 19days only, I don't think we'll have to worry about that.

But don't tell anyone who wants to invade us that all they have to do is stop the fuel tankers for 19days and we are stuffed.

Nothing like being in a Third world country.

[Troyskie]

Ha! Not to worry, we'll just set the drop bears on any invaders and head to the pub and watch it all on telly!

[crash7863]

I wish this ethanol crap would go away. Things have changed in North America. We no longer have the fear that we might run out of oil. Ethanol has also proved to be less than efficient for consumers.

Don't get me wrong, it's knowledge we need. Just in case. However, it's not practical and it's still every expensive. Take the subsidies away and that price of fuel would sky rocket.

Then let's take a look at the greenie weenie. Ethanol burns dirtier than normal gasoline. You can't win with this stuff.