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FJ calipers

Started by Eager Beaver, April 21, 2015, 08:06:55 AM

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Arnie

And, in answer to your Blue or Gold dot question.....
Yes, you can swap between them.  The Gold dot calipers use aluminum pistons instead of steel. Other than that they work the same.
So, if you already have the Blue dot calipers, swapping to the Gold dots will lighten your FJ by a few grams and your wallet by some amount of $$.  Your choice :-)

rollinghelmet

It would not be hard to spray them with gold caliper paint when I pull them apart to clean

Is it hard to pull the oil pan off  completely to do a sump bolt thread replacement

movenon

Quote from: rollinghelmet on April 22, 2015, 11:23:06 PM
It would not be hard to spray them with gold caliper paint when I pull them apart to clean

Is it hard to pull the oil pan off  completely to do a sump bolt thread replacement


On the oil pan/sump. It is easy.

Remove the header pipes.  Just for info at the bottom end of the pipes in real fine print there is a stamp marking #1, 2, 3, 4 so you can get the correct pipes back in place.

Remove the collector

Drain the oil

Remove the oil cooler lines

Unbolt the oil level sensor and pull out of the sump.

Unbolt the pan bolts.  There is one bolt in the center that has a copper gasket. Don't loose it. There is a few bolts that are longer.  Don't worry about keeping track. When you put it back together the shorter ones will not even start to thread into where the long ones go.  Just install all the short ones and then the holes that are left over are where the long bolts go. The center bolt with the copper washer is the only "special" one to keep track of.  TQ from memory is 7.2 ft lbs.


Buy a lower gasket kit. You will need the sump gasket and the oil pick up tube gasket. My recommendation is just buy a kit. They are around 20.00 USD. Also you might want 4 exhaust header gaskets.

Really it is easy. The only place that you might have difficulty is removing the header pipe nuts.  If they are corroded soak them first. Be careful not to break a stud.. don't force or twist to hard.

As a thought you MIGHT be able to unbolt the mufflers and collector and leave the headers on and get the sump off ?

Hope some of this helps.
George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

rollinghelmet

my warped rotors do not have Arashi on them but look idential

the washers and split washers on the back of the botton thingys have rusted badly so i though in will try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqcHw_t3QlU


ribbert

Quote from: rollinghelmet on April 23, 2015, 01:38:33 AM
my warped rotors do not have Arashi on them but look idential

the washers and split washers on the back of the botton thingys have rusted badly so i though in will try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqcHw_t3QlU



If they are not marked "Arashi" who knows what you've got. The Arashi rotors are in widespread use both here and on many other forums and are even popular with the Hyabusa track day guys. Nothing but glowing reports.
I also posted an independent engineering and metalurgy report (by a skeptic) on them a while back. They came up trumps.

BTW, those "button thingies" should be stainless steel. If they are "rusted badly" they are weakened.

If you ride you bike hard, don't frig around with front brakes. If they're rusty, warped etc. and an unknown brand out of China, chuck 'em, it's not worth the risk.

Rollinghelmet might become bouncing, skidding, crashing helmet.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ribbert

Quote from: the fan on April 21, 2015, 11:54:25 AM

With the 14mm masters I would get fade on a long hard run and it was difficult to 'feel' what the front wheel was doing on long fast sweepers. with the radial I get no fade and I cn pretty much tell you what quarry the aggregate in the pavement came from....


OK, time to show my ignorance, again.
I understand the better feel but how does the m/c reduce fade and give better feedback from the tyre on a long fast corner?

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

rollinghelmet


These have the Arashi logo on them and you can not complian about the price

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gold-Front-Brake-Disc-Rotor-for-Yamaha-R1-Z-250-TZ-250-TDM-850-TRX-850-FJ-1200-/111624342565?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item19fd544c25

looking closer at the ebay piture the washers on the back of the botton thingies looks different

rollinghelmet

can someone confirm this with their Arashi rotors thanks

X-Ray

I have these bookmarked as a possible buy as well. Hmmmm.  :nea:
'94 FJ1200 Wet Pale Brown
'93 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver
'84 FJ1100 Red/White

'91 FJ1200 Dark Violet/Silver ( Now Sold)
'92 FJ1200 Project/Resto Dark Violet/Silver (Now Sold)






For photos of my rear wheel swap, heres the link  https://www.flickr.com/gp/150032671@N02/62k3KZ

aviationfred

Here is a photo of my Arashi rotors. They have been installed for about 2 1/2 years. No rust at all anywhere.


I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Arnie

I see you decided on the transparent version :-)
But, you're right.... No rust to be seen anywhere


Quote from: aviationfred on April 23, 2015, 09:17:01 PM
Here is a photo of my Arashi rotors. They have been installed for about 2 1/2 years. No rust at all anywhere.




Tjabo

Hello,
I´m thinking getting some blue dots for my Fj-1200 -1993.
What do I need to get the things together?
1. Blue dots calipers with pads of course
2. A master cylinder (which one is best and most simular to the orginal FJ-one?)
3. Can I use my braided brake lines that are on the bike now or do they needs to be replaced? Are the brake line fittings the same regardless master cylinder and calipers?

Anything else worth thinking of?

With kind regards

movenon

Quote from: Tjabo on May 05, 2015, 03:19:32 PM
Hello,
I´m thinking getting some blue dots for my Fj-1200 -1993.
What do I need to get the things together?
1. Blue dots calipers with pads of course
2. A master cylinder (which one is best and most simular to the orginal FJ-one?)
3. Can I use my braided brake lines that are on the bike now or do they needs to be replaced? Are the brake line fittings the same regardless master cylinder and calipers?

Anything else worth thinking of?

With kind regards

Others will respond in more detail and options but you can run the blue dots with your stock M/C if desired.  It will work just fine until you want to replace it.

George
Life isn't about having the best, but about making the best of what you have...

1990 FJ 1200

FJmonkey

Your braided lines will work as long they can be routed properly and not be kinked or stretched. Remember to replace your sealing washers with new ones, one gets placed on both sides of each banjo bolt. The exception is when you have two banjo bolts together then you only use one in between. They are in expensive and you will be less likely to mess about with a leak.

When working with brake fluid, keep thing as covered as possible and keep a spray bottle of water handy. Clean up any drips or spills ASAP and spray with water to dilute and clean off the paint and plastic eating stuff.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

ccsct203

Blue dots with Ducati rotors and placic cups
working great for 3 years
If it's not broken, fix it anyways