http://www.ebay.com/itm/180917960430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1389wt_1084 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/180917960430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1389wt_1084)
just want to make sure before I buy them.. they are for a 2003 Honda CBR 954 RR but they look pretty similar to me and the price is nice.... please, don't bash me too hard, im a cheap ass (broke too) and I don't want to waste money.... :blum2:
Quote from: HARTLESS on June 25, 2013, 07:18:55 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180917960430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1389wt_1084 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/180917960430?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1389wt_1084)
just want to make sure before I buy them.. they are for a 2003 Honda CBR 954 RR but they look pretty similar to me and the price is nice.... please, don't bash me too hard, im a cheap ass (broke too) and I don't want to waste money.... :blum2:
The stalk looks too short from the pics. Look at these..
http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw (http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw)
hmmm. ok I see what you are saying, I didn't notice that.. haha, one of the mirrors I have on now(had two different mirrors when I bought it ) only has about a 3" stalk.... :nea:
I bought these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CBR-600-RR-CBR600RR-carbon-mirrors-2012-2011-2010-2009-2008-2007-2006-2005-/390418209477?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3ACBR&hash=item5ae6bd1ac5&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CBR-600-RR-CBR600RR-carbon-mirrors-2012-2011-2010-2009-2008-2007-2006-2005-/390418209477?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3ACBR&hash=item5ae6bd1ac5&vxp=mtr)
4-3/4" stalks on the CBR mirrors I got from this seller. Not the best quality, but they're OK.
Reference link: http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2027.msg63696;topicseen#msg63696 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2027.msg63696;topicseen#msg63696)
Nice looking mirrors, but with a 4.something inch stalk I'm still looking at my elbows. I did some measuring on "mirrors that work on other bikes" and determined I need 5.5 inches or longer. My LSL bar kit puts my grips 28 inches tip to tip. I measured the stalk on a pair of CBR250 mirrors and found the stalk to be about seven inches. They were $80 (per pair) plus tax at the dealer and $60. plus shipping online. Also found some EMGOs on DK in 5.5 inches for $60 pair ( I know they're Emgos), 2097211 (R), and 2097211 (L). Anyone tried any of these?
I'm thinking of going with the oem CBR250's, just can't do it until later in July. Oem Honda mirrors are not expensive like Yamaha.
Anson
p.s. "Mirrors on bikes that work" put the center of the mirrors in a straight line with the center of the grips, and of course, higher...
Anson, you are on the right track...buy oem Honda mirrors. The quality of the glass and optics are vastly superior to the FleaBay Emgo crap. Vastly. Pat
Quote from: Pat Conlon on June 29, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
Anson, you are on the right track...buy oem Honda mirrors. The quality of the glass and optics are vastly superior to the FleaBay Emgo crap. Vastly. Pat
Pat's right, the genuine Honda no doubt have superior glazing and they are very expensive but I would defy anyone to pick the difference when using them on the road.
If you did buy the expensive ones I would still buy a set for less than $20 (not Emgo) and use them for a few weeks until you get used to the extra width. It's not much but it's enough to clip the mirrors on all sorts of things. I clipped a number of car mirrors in the traffic and my own cars in the drive until I got used to extra width.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on June 30, 2013, 09:01:04 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on June 29, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
Anson, you are on the right track...buy oem Honda mirrors. The quality of the glass and optics are vastly superior to the FleaBay Emgo crap. Vastly. Pat
Pat's right, the genuine Honda no doubt have superior glazing and they are very expensive but I would defy anyone to pick the difference when using them on the road.
If you did buy the expensive ones I would still buy a set for less than $20 (not Emgo) and use them for a few weeks until you get used to the extra width. It's not much but it's enough to clip the mirrors on all sorts of things. I clipped a number of car mirrors in the traffic and my own cars in the drive until I got used to extra width.
Noel
that's exactly what I was thinking....I don't do my hair in those mirrors....I look at them for a millisecond to see if there is a blob behind me and then I turn my head and actually look...
Quote from: HARTLESS on June 30, 2013, 06:36:24 PM
that's exactly what I was thinking....I don't do my hair in those mirrors....I look at them for a millisecond to see if there is a blob behind me and then I turn my head and actually look...
I actually rode around for a few weeks with one of the the new mirrors and one of the originals to make sure I was happy. If the mirrors I have were anything less than satisfactory I would ditch them immediately.
A critical inspection of the mirror shows the glazing is not top notch, but the difference cannot be seen on the road. I don't do my make up in these, I do that in the bathroom beforehand, and I'm happy with them.
When you are very familiar with your bike it's amazing how close you must regularly pass things when suddenly, and for the first time ever, you start clipping things with the slightly wider mirrors. I also tend to bump them walking past. I have now adjusted.
WARNING: there are cheap mirrors and there are cheap mirrors. I have a second bike with a set of cheap mirrors that are 100% useless, no brand. I've never tried them but Emgos cop a lot flak here. I got mine from, and I think Monkey Mark also recommended, an on line shop called "zillion8". I can't find the link at the moment.
Not wanting to make a feature of them I got the plain black plastic ones and they were less than $20 posted and are better quality than you would expect for pocket change.
Noel
Quote from: ribbert on June 30, 2013, 08:11:55 PM
and I think Monkey Mark also recommended, an on line shop called "zillion8". I can't find the link at the moment.
FYI, I posted the link for reference of the stalk length. I have no idea what the quality is.... Not Monkey endorsed...
I bought a set of these mirrors. They looked good and are inexpensive. I figured I would give them a try, and see if I can get a better view behind me.
http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw (http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw)
They arrived today. I am pretty happy with the over all quality. There is one issue that I have found so far. The mounting holes are too narrow and are about a half of a hole off on each end. I have attempted a quick fix and will knkow how it worked later tonight when I get home.
Here is the modified mount with the newly slotted holes and slotted counter bore.
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o145/aviationfred/IMAG0262_zps03f7e26d.jpg) (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/aviationfred/media/IMAG0262_zps03f7e26d.jpg.html)
I know they are not perfect for you machinist types, I am an electrician playing with big power tools with sharp edges... :yahoo: Yee Haw
Fred
Quote from: aviationfred on July 05, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
I bought a set of these mirrors. They looked good and are inexpensive. I figured I would give them a try, and see if I can get a better view behind me.
http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw (http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw)
They arrived today. I am pretty happy with the over all quality. There is one issue that I have found so far. The mounting holes are too narrow and are about a half of a hole off on each end. I have attempted a quick fix and will knkow how it worked later tonight when I get home.
Here is the modified mount with the newly slotted holes and slotted counter bore.
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o145/aviationfred/IMAG0262_zps03f7e26d.jpg) (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/aviationfred/media/IMAG0262_zps03f7e26d.jpg.html)
I know they are not perfect for you machinist types, I am an electrician playing with big power tools with sharp edges... :yahoo: Yee Haw
Fred
Do you not have the original fj mounts? It looks like you should be able to just slide the stalk into the fj mount...
I don't have a set of OEM mirror mounts. I had to modify the CBR mounts. The file at the bottom shows that the OEM FJ mounts do work.
http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw (http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw)
Took the bike for a quick spin this morning to check on the rear view and clarity. In street traffic, they are wonderful and give a very large view to the rear. Practically no view of my arms or shoulders. On the freeway there is a bit of vibration. Possibly filling the mirrors with RTV may cure that. I may do that in the next week or so.
I give :good2: 2 thumbs up on these mirrors.
Inexpensive price, great looks, very good view to the rear and if you don't have the OEM FJ mirror mounts, just a bit of machining of the mounts to make work.
Here is the modification link.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2027.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2027.0)
Fred
GAH?!?!!?! Why didn't anyone tell me this! :mad:
I had won an auction for some OEM used great shape CBR mirrors, but then I saw that everyone uses the stock mirror bases and realized I don't have those (PO installed shitty emgo's), so I asked the guy to cancel the auction.
:dash2:
Could you post/point to a write up on the mods necessary to the CBR bases to get them to work?
Quote from: aviationfred on July 05, 2013, 09:45:31 PM
I bought a set of these mirrors. They looked good and are inexpensive. I figured I would give them a try, and see if I can get a better view behind me.
http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw (http://www.zillion8.com/motorcycle-mirror/honda-motorcycle-mirror/carbon-fiber-honda-cbr1000rr-mirror-2005-2006?gclid=CIPxvom6gLgCFdFDMgodYVMASw)
They arrived today. I am pretty happy with the over all quality. There is one issue that I have found so far. The mounting holes are too narrow and are about a half of a hole off on each end. I have attempted a quick fix and will knkow how it worked later tonight when I get home.
Here is the modified mount with the newly slotted holes and slotted counter bore.
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o145/aviationfred/IMAG0262_zps03f7e26d.jpg) (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/aviationfred/media/IMAG0262_zps03f7e26d.jpg.html)
I know they are not perfect for you machinist types, I am an electrician playing with big power tools with sharp edges... :yahoo: Yee Haw
Fred
Kyle,
I have access to a multi-axis drill press at work and I used a 1/4" end mill to slot the mounting holes, and a 3/8" end mill to slot the counter bore. I bead blasted the part and re-painted
Fred
I just ordered some that look the same as Freds for $21 on flea bay. I have the stock mounts so hopefully i will not need a drill press. I guess we will just have to see how cheap they are... :) as long as the reflect anything I think ill be happy. I hope ill be happy :wacko1:
I mounted these earlier this week and I'm happy to say that ( with the help of Monkey Mark's angled mirror adapter idea) they work!.. I finally can clearly see what is behind me with just a glance.
1 of 88110-KYJ-305 - Honda - MIRROR ASSY., R. BACK (COO) @$28.56ea.
1 of 88120-KYJ-305 - Honda - MIRROR ASSY., L. BACK (COO) @$29.70ea.
http://www.partspitstoponline.com/ (http://www.partspitstoponline.com/)
Kudos go out to anson45 who found these CBR 250 -- 7" stalk mirrors.
FJmonkey, if you ever start making these angled adapters as part of your Monkey Made parts selection, I'll take a set. I used your idea and fabricated these out of some maple stock. They work, but , well, wooded parts on a motorcycle...?
The mirrors are better quality than the ebay CBR 600 mirrors I had on before. Less vibration and a better quality reflection. It's noticeable. And of course the stalks are 2"+ longer than I had before.
I don't know if these mirrors will work on an '89 fairing without using the angled adapters. The mirrors are rotated about 180* to where they are designed to be, and the stalks extended forward enough so that they just have enough adjustment to work, and it appears that they would not have had enough adjustment without the adapters. I did not have the patience to try it without the adapters just for kicks.
I think that on the 91 + fairings the mirror bracket is at a different angle (better for this mod) than the previous models. Perhaps someone can confirm this?
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/150_13_07_13_11_13_14_0.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/150_13_07_13_11_13_17_1.jpeg)
In order to have the necessary adjustment capability, the stalks need to be rotated forward quite a bit. The clutch lever touches the stalk at full lock but otherwise does not interfere with the steering.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/150_13_07_13_11_13_21_2.jpeg)
Angled Adapter:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/150_13_07_13_11_13_24_3.jpeg)
They don't fit to the FJ mounting bracket just out of the box. You're going to have to use a flat file to make the CBR mounting area narrower and take some material off of the outside diameter.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/150_13_07_13_11_13_27_4.jpeg)
26-1/2" between them and a 38" wingspan
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/150_13_07_13_11_13_31_5.jpeg)
Quote from: markmartin on July 13, 2013, 01:02:37 PM
FJmonkey, if you ever start making these angled adapters as part of your Monkey Made parts selection, I'll take a set. I used your idea and fabricated these out of some maple stock. They work, but , well, wooded parts on a motorcycle...?
Wow, I guess you don't split lanes like we do here in Kalifornia.... The adapters I had made were machined with permission from my manager at work. In fact all the Monkey made parts are sanctioned, but sheet metal parts are so easy I always get a yes to make a small batch. I really don't ask anymore to make machined parts unless they are really simple/easy. But I will post op if the opportunity strikes.
Good job, by the way...
Mark I love them extra lights....hard to set up and power up?...I take some serious dark roads home from work...hit a 6 point buck already and wife nearly smoked one too...with coons and other critters all over the place extra lighting would be nice
Quote from: Sabre093 on July 13, 2013, 05:54:55 PM
Mark I love them extra lights....hard to set up and power up?...I take some serious dark roads home from work...hit a 6 point buck already and wife nearly smoked one too...with coons and other critters all over the place extra lighting would be nice
Martin Fabrication is where I got them (no affiliation) . They've since gone out of business but I've seen these kits still for sale here and there on the internet. http://www.amazon.com/Martin-Fabrication-Driving-Lights-Kawasaki/dp/B005298QFA (http://www.amazon.com/Martin-Fabrication-Driving-Lights-Kawasaki/dp/B005298QFA)
They are pretty good as far as light. Not great. 50watt halogens. They make an HID kit but were are pricey. They come with a relay and a remote on/off switch and are hooked to my Hi-beams. I got a separate relay and harness for the headlight from Eastern Beaver that allowed for all of this. So I can drive with low beam, high beam, or high beam with the driving lights. I mounted them to the fairing. Drilled through and backed them up with some washers to spread the load. I put junctions in the wires at the fairing so I can disconnect them when I remove the fairing.
I've got them veered toward the ditches for the same reason you said. I'd travel faster day and night there were no animal wild card.
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/5/150_13_07_13_6_45_56.jpeg)
Mark, be careful and don't get caught.... Fed DOT and most, if not all, state DOTs require that driving lights be incapable of being used with hi beams. it may even be against the law....
I recently purchased some mirrors from Global Bike Online through ebay right mirror their part number: 54280 (ebay 390608146670), left mirror their part number: 54281 (ebay 330913785170). they arrived quickly (Chicago area U. S.). They are not factory, but similar and work out well. Slightly better view to the rear and dont't vibrate too much. I have them on 3/4" thick clear plastic (poly carbonate, I think) I fabbed for the stock mirrors.
Quote from: RichBaker on July 15, 2013, 11:19:07 PM
Mark, be careful and don't get caught.... Fed DOT and most, if not all, state DOTs require that driving lights be incapable of being used with hi beams. it may even be against the law....
Thanks for the heads up. I have them on all the time with the high beam during the day.
Quote from: RichBaker on July 15, 2013, 11:19:07 PM
Mark, be careful and don't get caught.... Fed DOT and most, if not all, state DOTs require that driving lights be incapable of being used with hi beams. it may even be against the law....
Just looking at this Honda 250 mirror thread and saw this little gem.
This is completely arse-about-face to Australia - here it is illegal for driving lights to be on while using lo-beam. They can only be turned on when using hi-beam and must be able to be turned off separately to hi-beam.
Harvy