My tires were due in yesterday, they did not arrive, crap!!!! I can do some prep and get the old ones off.
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I got aggressive and cleaned the chain and other assorted bits. My drive is not quite flat so I purchased a bit of steel rod to pass through to make like the rear axle is wider. This made for a stable position to use a floor jack and have both wheels off at the same time.
I used the 2x4 and lever method to brake the bead, a saw to cut the side walls, some rough cleaning to see some white, and my wheels are ready for UPS to complete the delivery.
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Just a hint of Periwinkle, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" ... This is a Manly endeavor... Not for the light of heart or wimpy... No Pink stripe anywhere....
How the hell did that get in here???? Pesky photo, won't leave me alone.
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Baldy, you infected my computer you convict scummm.....
The White looks way better than the Periwinkle :rofl:
Quote from: aviationfred on March 02, 2013, 10:00:43 PM
The White looks way better than the Periwinkle :rofl:
Oh yes!!! But it was in the pic... Cleaning is a real Bitch.....
Holy kazoobas! :shok:
WOW look at all that nice weather, oh and her to... What size of tires are going on your front end ? Not her's, yours.... I would ask what her preload setting was but..... :yahoo:
George
I notice what appears to be colour coded stands. Nice touch.
Didn't know The Red Power Ranger had a sidekick? At least not a sidekick with that high pressure anyway :good2:
Quote from: movenon on March 03, 2013, 12:40:31 AM
WOW look at all that nice weather, oh and her to... What size of tires are going on your front end ? Not her's, yours.... I would ask what her preload setting was but..... :yahoo:
George
I have the 88/FZR1000 front wheel so I run a 120 x 70. I am switching from the Dunlop Q2 to the Conti Motions. I really don't ride hard enough for the Q2s and the Contis were on a killer sale. I need to check the date code before I mount them. I had a 170 on the rear, the Q2 was too wide for a 180, the chain machined off the side of the tire. I am trying a 180 again with the Conti, if its too wide then I will offset the front sprocket and flip the rear sprocket to clear the tire.
Quote from: Jeff0308 on March 03, 2013, 02:25:00 AM
I notice what appears to be colour coded stands. Nice touch.
I had noticed that, I also have a color coded floor jack that you can see on the Left but it failed. it is nice to have neighbors with tools.
Cool, keep us (me) posted on how that 180 works. If it doesn't rub anything, I will pick one up. But looking at the clearance my 170 sports, it shouldn't be a problem.
BTW, your bike is looking great!!!
CraigO
Quote from: craigo on March 03, 2013, 08:05:28 AM
Cool, keep us (me) posted on how that 180 works. If it doesn't rub anything, I will pick one up. But looking at the clearance my 170 sports, it shouldn't be a problem.
BTW, your bike is looking great!!!
CraigO
No problem Craig, I will let you know about the 180. And thanks, at the right angle and distance it is looking good.
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 03, 2013, 07:57:20 AM
Quote from: movenon on March 03, 2013, 12:40:31 AM
WOW look at all that nice weather, oh and her to... What size of tires are going on your front end ? Not her's, yours.... I would ask what her preload setting was but..... :yahoo:
George
I have the 88/FZR1000 front wheel so I run a 120 x 70. I am switching from the Dunlop Q2 to the Conti Motions. I really don't ride hard enough for the Q2s and the Contis were on a killer sale. I need to check the date code before I mount them. I had a 170 on the rear, the Q2 was too wide for a 180, the chain machined off the side of the tire. I am trying a 180 again with the Conti, if its too wide then I will offset the front sprocket and flip the rear sprocket to clear the tire.
Same rim set up here when finished... Front 3.5 rim is out being powder coated. I put a 180 55 17 Michelin RP3 on the rear. Right now the is wheel centered in the swing arm the chain clears by about 3/8 ".. When measuring the chain (conversion in progress) the chain drifts off inboard to the front sprocket. I will flip the finial drive sprocket and see where I am at. I am hoping/estimating that I will end up with about 1/4 " chain to tire clearance when everything is centered and aligned.
Like you mentioned another option is a new front sprocket (VF 1000 ?? ). The more I think about it the VF ?? front sprocket might be the way to go anyhow. I guess the splines are the same ? Out of memory from another post they had to grind down the outside protrusion on the face slightly to get the retaining nut on all the way. Guess I got to go find a 36mm socket now..... :dash1:
As a note for me it is hard to eye ball the chain alignment. I found that while I was mocking up the rear that I could push the rear tire assembly left or right quiet a bit and the chain would "look" like it was close. My advise is don't trust eye ball's... I ordered a Motion Pro chain alignment guide (around 15-18.00).
In the mean time I discovered a thin flexable spring steel 12 inch ruler in my tool box (I think it was an old office/drafting ruler) and because it bends easily you can lay the edge flat against the rear sprocket then you can see the chain alignment going up to the front sprocket. At least you can see which way the chain is drifting toward if not aligned.
The reason I ask about the front tire size was 120 70 vs 120 60 profile... I haven't ordered the tire yet. At this time my rear end is up about 1.25 -1.5 inchs from stock at static due to the new f4i shock and dog bone configuration. Enough rambling :) Have a good Sunday and I hope your tires arrive Monday. Standing by for your next transmission :).
George
Bike looks good FJmonkey. Paint that rear wheel red on the inside, then you can say your FJ red/white inside and out (take picture for proof). You have the time.
Kurt
Monkey,
Did you *REALLY* paint your windshield screws red???
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 02, 2013, 09:15:07 PM
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Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on March 03, 2013, 02:45:23 PM
Monkey,
Did you *REALLY* paint your windshield screws red???
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 02, 2013, 09:15:07 PM
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No, they are anodized aluminum in Power Ranger Red.
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 02, 2013, 09:15:07 PM
No, they are anodized aluminum in Power Ranger Red.
Heh Heh, love it!
Finally got the job done today but too late for a ride. The Conti Motions in the 180 rear has as much chain clearance as the Dunlop Q2 in a 170. Got them on Amazon for $185 for the pair, delivered. The date code on them puts them in 2012, not bad. Lets see how they ride.
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Since I had the wheels off I gave them a good cleaning. They are currently the only clean part on the bike. I still had them F%$& bugs from the 2012 WCR plastered to the wheels. Now I need to get to the rest of the bike. I did some solvent pre-cleaning in the swing arm while the wheel was out. The grunge you see will wash right off now. Got the chain clean too. Time to put the chain guard back on to help keep the back cleaner. And I fixed the fuel line routing so I will run a few tanks with the FP carbs and see how they work on a GF bike.
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Hey Power Ranger your bike looks really awesome.I hope to get mine looking that way someday. :good2: :biggrin:
Your bike looks great, I have considered using the Conti-Motions as my next set of tires. Please keep us informed how they perform for you.
Fred
Quote from: aviationfred on March 09, 2013, 09:31:07 PM
Your bike looks great, I have considered using the Conti-Motions as my next set of tires. Please keep us informed how they perform for you.
Fred
CraigO says he runs the same tires and I think he rides faster so these should be a good fit. Not as cool looking as the Attack tread pattern, but I am saving up for an RPM rear shock.
Just a question. That tyre looks awfly close to the swing arm....and that's cold pressure.
Whats gonna happen once it starts working under load with heat and cornering?
I was always told that tyres "move" on the rim, so does this mean that your nice new shoe will have shaved walls later down the line?
Yes, I did say shaved WALLS. Not what others were thinking.
Mind you - to ask....does shaving yer "not walls", help the aerodynamics and reduce drag? Not a personally aimed question, just a general "throw it out there".
:crazy:
Shouldn't have any problems apart from fitting the chainguard back in place. My 180/55 has a tiny bit less clearance than Monkeys, and after a lot of very high speed riding, with some severe cornering thrown in at our Rally this weekend, no touching/shaving/peeling at all. With any mods there are always some risks, minor adjustments etc, but they are usually relatively easy to take care of.
One thing Mark is you might have to "notch" the plastic guard to fit around the front of the tyre, I saw this "mod" at our rally yesterday.
Hoo Roo :smile:
I had zero issues with the Q2 170 with the same clearance, so I don't expect the Conti to expand anymore than the Q2. My guard is already notched so it should drop right in. When I get my shock and upgrade to dog bones I will get the hugger painted and fitted as well. The tire is centered, of that I am certain.
I also might add that I did the mount and balance myself for the first time. Used some 2x4 (or in Aussie 4x2) and the tow hitch to break the bead, cut the old tires off, removed the old bead. I pre-balanced the wheel. This way I only need to balance the tire going forward. If a tire is already balanced then I save some time and effort. Cleaned them up. Used heavy duty cable ties (Zip ties) to compress the ties so the beads touched. I did the front first and only used 6 ties. Had to work at it to get the tire on the wheel. Cut the ties off. One part of the tire did not want to un-collapse, it caved/buckled. Used a ratchet strap to compress the circumference with hopes to pop it back into shape. That did not work. Could not get a seal to keep air in it. So I work it against the floor while bouncing it and rolling it. It seemed like it might seal so I put the air back on it. Yea!!! Air was going in and not coming out. Got the pressure up to 32psi and the bead has not set yet. So I left it to clean up a little and I hear the familiar PING.....PING as both sides set in. Front is now due for final balance. I used 8 ties for the rear, it went on easier, it also caved in quite a bit but I could get most of the shape back working it with my hands. Got air to around 30ish pounds and let it sit. PING...PING. The front needed 7gms of weight, the rear needed 21gm. Did some final clean up to get more of the white to shine and installed them on the bike.
Thanks to the posts here, I learned to do one more valuable thing that saves me money and keeps unknown mechanics off my precious FJ. It is more work but I know I did the work properly and and I know the balance is spot on. Thanks to all the contributing FJowners and Marsh for the excellent forum.
Looks great to me... Good work on doing your own tires. As you mentioned, it save's money and most of all you don't have to depend on a dealer. Some of the dealers have gotten pretty high on what they charge to mount tires. My clearance looks visually is about the same and other photo's of the same GSXR 180/55 conversion look about the the same. Nobodies had a problem that I am aware of with a properly adjusted rear wheel and proper tire inflation. You are about 30 days a head of me. Just was notified that my 3.5 front wheel is ready to be picked up on Monday and I have to order a tire yet. Thinking strongly about a new chain since I now have new sprockets. $$$ Geeez........... Heck she might smoke a bit but she is going to have shinny new wheels , shoes and chain..... :yes:
George
Looks great Mark,
Looking forward to a ride review and let us (me) know what you think of their performance. As I said, I like these tires a whole lot better than the roadsmarts I had on. The price is just the cherry on the sundae.
Sun is out and I am going for a little freeway spin as I have work down in Point Loma today.
CraigO
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 09, 2013, 09:44:43 PM
CraigO says he runs the same tires and I think he rides faster so these should be a good fit.
It may have seemed that I ride faster, but those we my roads. If I came up your way for a ride, maybe it will be you who is faster. :good2:
CraigO
Here is what my Conti Motions look like after 4k miles. Lot's of tread left but the front is beveled.
Front Tire:
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Rear:
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Just in case anyone was interested....
CraigO
The beveled front is only avoidable if we stay out of the twisties.... That is not gonna happen.... :nea:
Mark, did you ever have a 180 Dunlop Q2 on your bike, or just the 170?
The reason I ask, is that I have a Dunlop D208, 180, and it rubs the chain.
I guess Dunlop is one of those brands that oversizes their tires.
But the 170 fit fine??
I'm looking at getting some new rubber before I head out to this years WCR and I don't want to have happen like what happened in Colorado last year. (Down to the cords).
Quote from: 1tinindian on March 10, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
Mark, did you ever have a 180 Dunlop Q2 on your bike, or just the 170?
The reason I ask, is that I have a Dunlop D208, 180, and it rubs the chain.
I guess Dunlop is one of those brands that oversizes their tires.
But the 170 fit fine??
I'm looking at getting some new rubber before I head out to this years WCR and I don't want to have happen like what happened in Colorado last year. (Down to the cords).
I ran the 180 first and the chain machined off a good 3/16 of an inch off the side. Bits O' tire messing up the nice White wheels. Not sure how bad it was for the chain, they are not designed to be side loaded. It seems ok, not too beat up when I cleaned it recently. But the 170 had no issues with touching the chain.
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 10, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
The beveled front is only avoidable if we stay out of the twisties.... That is not gonna happen.... :nea:
If the roads weren't twisty, then what's the point? :crazy:
CraigO
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 10, 2013, 03:54:25 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on March 10, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
Mark, did you ever have a 180 Dunlop Q2 on your bike, or just the 170?
The reason I ask, is that I have a Dunlop D208, 180, and it rubs the chain.
I guess Dunlop is one of those brands that oversizes their tires.
But the 170 fit fine??
I'm looking at getting some new rubber before I head out to this years WCR and I don't want to have happen like what happened in Colorado last year. (Down to the cords).
I ran the 180 first and the chain machined off a good 3/16 of an inch off the side. Bits O' tire messing up the nice White wheels. Not sure how bad it was for the chain, they are not designed to be side loaded. It seems ok, not too beat up when I cleaned it recently. But the 170 had no issues with touching the chain.
Thank you sir.
That will help in making my next tire choice.
You say the Conti 180 has nearly the same spacing to the chain as the 170 DQ2 had?
Leon
I just finished up my rear with a 180/55/17 Michelin Pilot Road 3. The rim (1993 GSXR 750) is dead center and aligned with the front tire. The chain is now as straight as I can tell using a Motion Pro alignment indicator (looks dead straight) and I have about 1/4" tire to chain clearance.
The rear 38T GSXR 750 sprocket is flipped and the front sprocket is a VF 1000 18T with 2mm more off set to the outside. I am "aloven" it :))) Can't wait to get the front on....
A while back Sport Bike did a small tire compairsion/test and I noticed that not all 180 tires were 180mm wide by there measurements... They were close but not he same. Different metrics's I guess... :yes:
Do the Conti Attacks get more chicks than USD forks ? Just asking...
George
Quote from: 1tinindian on March 10, 2013, 04:18:26 PM
Thank you sir.
That will help in making my next tire choice.
You say the Conti 180 has nearly the same spacing to the chain as the 170 DQ2 had?
Leon
The Conti might have a tad more room on the chain but they both have safe room to wiggle.
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 10, 2013, 09:05:49 PM
Quote from: 1tinindian on March 10, 2013, 04:18:26 PM
Thank you sir.
That will help in making my next tire choice.
You say the Conti 180 has nearly the same spacing to the chain as the 170 DQ2 had?
Leon
The Conti might have a tad more room on the chain but they both have safe room to wiggle.
Thank you.
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Baldy, you infected my computer you convict scummm.....
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Monkey the only thing infected is your wit
oh by the way what size tyres do have on your training wheels? :sarcastic:
Hey Mark,
What do you think of the Conti tires?
CraigO
Quote from: craigo on March 15, 2013, 10:59:21 AM
Hey Mark,
What do you think of the Conti tires?
CraigO
They look good... New tires always look better. I have no miles on them yet, work and Honey-Do's ate up my ride time. However Steve, Mike and I are planning a ride this Sunday. I know your weekends are busy with work but if you want play hookie, we can have 4 FJs. You would be odd man out as the three of us will be on 86's.
Man I would LOVE to but I am in the office all weekend. :dash1:
Enjoy your ride, say hi to all who accompany and stay safe. And no performance awards either from the CHP.
Enjoy,
CraigO