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Title: Shim Caliper.
Post by: Woodsman on January 09, 2013, 01:58:01 PM
Took my rear caliper apart today and after looking at the parts fiche on Partzilla, it looks like i am missing parts no 12 and 13. I can only assume these are important? Whatever way the brakes have been operating in the past the disc now has a lip on the outer edge so will have to be replaced. Are there many options on discs for an 87?
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: aviationfred on January 09, 2013, 02:12:09 PM
I have ordered rotors off of Ebay for my 89 and have been happy with the results. Here are 2 options the first is from China and the second is more expensive one made by Brembo.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rear-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Yamaha-FJ-1100-1200-V-MAX-1200-86-06-FJR1300-03-09-XV1700-/251175493084?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AFJ&hash=item3a7b39dddc&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rear-Brake-Disc-Rotor-Yamaha-FJ-1100-1200-V-MAX-1200-86-06-FJR1300-03-09-XV1700-/251175493084?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Model%3AFJ&hash=item3a7b39dddc&vxp=mtr)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-FJ1200-Rt-84-88-Brembo-Replacement-Rear-Brake-Discs-/130774187125?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1e72bfbc75 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-FJ1200-Rt-84-88-Brembo-Replacement-Rear-Brake-Discs-/130774187125?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item1e72bfbc75)

Fred
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: Woodsman on January 10, 2013, 02:52:51 PM
Thanks Fred, anyone know about the caliper/ pad shims?
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: aviationfred on January 10, 2013, 03:46:36 PM
I have never had the stock rear caliper apart, so I don't know the answer to your shim problem. I do have a good, working 89' stock rear caliper. The 87' and 89' use the same calipers. I can send it to you for the cost of shipping.

Fred
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: fj11.5 on January 10, 2013, 04:02:09 PM
Is the wear on both sides , maybe someone fitted longer pads and they didnt touch the whole disc
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: FJmonkey on January 10, 2013, 04:06:52 PM
I have my 86' rear brake and original rotor in the garage, I will check when I get home for these parts. It looks like they clip to the back of the brake pad and add thickness. Maybe for anti-squeal? If I have them I will let you know and will have a better guess on what they do. I will also check pad alignment to the disc, I think the lip is normal. You just have well worn disc. I rarely use my rear disc for braking, only when I am mostly vertical like stopping at a light and freeway off ramps. Others like to use the rear brake alot. My rear disc should last another 20 years.
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: baldy3853 on January 10, 2013, 05:41:25 PM
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I rarely use my rear disc for braking, only when I am mostly vertical like stopping at a light and freeway off ramps. Others like to use the rear brake alot. My rear disc should last another 20 years.
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Not much use in having them if u don't use them but then again I suppose you also have to go fast enough to make use of them!!  :rofl2:
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: FJmonkey on January 10, 2013, 06:03:16 PM
I must have sold my rear caliper, its not in my pile of old 86' parts. But the pad marks on the rotor do not go clear to the edge. A well worn rotor will develop a lip at the outer edge.

Maybe there are some other members with 84/87 FJs that go fast enough to use their rear brake and need to change them soon. They can identify the parts. Maybe Randy knows.
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: racerrad8 on January 10, 2013, 06:13:15 PM
Those are just anti-rattle shims, they are not required and the fact they are missing did not cause the lip on the rotor.

If you really want them I can get them for you.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: baldy3853 on January 11, 2013, 06:42:05 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on January 10, 2013, 06:03:16 PM
I must have sold my rear caliper, its not in my pile of old 86' parts. But the pad marks on the rotor do not go clear to the edge. A well worn rotor will develop a lip at the outer edge.

Maybe there are some other members with 84/87 FJs that go fast enough to use their rear brake and need to change them soon. They can identify the parts. Maybe Randy knows.
:yahoo: :rofl: :dash2: :good2:
Baldy
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: Woodsman on January 11, 2013, 12:40:28 PM
Thanks as ever gentlemen. Looks like my rear disc is just very worn. Was a little worried about the missing parts but clearly they are not compulsory.
Had it all stripped down and cleaned and it's working as well as it should. I don't use it a whole lot either.
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: Mark Olson on January 11, 2013, 04:39:19 PM
A good tip on the rear rotor is replace it with the right front rotor from the front wheel of an fj that had anti dive 84-87 .  same part.

A lot of us have them laying around after our front end mods.

do not attempt to resurface them.  The lip is normal wear.
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: FJmonkey on January 11, 2013, 05:13:00 PM
I am sure my rear rotor is still in spec if you want it, apparently I don't ride fast enough to wear it out.... At least the Power Ranger suit make me look really fast.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: craigo on January 11, 2013, 05:25:18 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on January 11, 2013, 05:13:00 PM
I am sure my rear rotor is still in spec if you want it, apparently I don't ride fast enough to wear it out.... At least the Power Ranger suit make me look really fast.  :biggrin:

C'mon Mark,

I've ridden with you and you do fine!!!  :good:
And who uses the rear brake anyway?
CraigO
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: racerman_27410 on January 11, 2013, 08:12:36 PM
Quote from: craigo on January 11, 2013, 05:25:18 PM
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And who uses the rear brake anyway?
CraigO

I use the rear brake all the time.... a little rear trail braking is very handy in the twisties to help tighten your line thru a turn without upsetting the chassis.... say..... when you find yourself carrying a bit more speed into a corner than prudent! 

the faster you are going the better it works. :good2:

KOokaloo!
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: Woodsman on January 12, 2013, 04:15:30 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on January 11, 2013, 05:13:00 PM
I am sure my rear rotor is still in spec if you want it,

Hi Mark, would you mind checking out that rotor/disc for me? I am in Ireland so not sure what the cost of shipping but if it was any ways reasonable we could sort something out. Maybe i could have a few small bits sent to you from RPM of same value?
Sean.
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: FJmonkey on January 12, 2013, 07:30:39 AM
Quote from: Woodsman on January 12, 2013, 04:15:30 AM
Hi Mark, would you mind checking out that rotor/disc for me? I am in Ireland so not sure what the cost of shipping but if it was any ways reasonable we could sort something out. Maybe i could have a few small bits sent to you from RPM of same value?
Sean.
I will check today and let you know. The cost of shipping is most likely higher than the value of the part. Better to find something more local for a lower shipping cost. But I will check anyway and let you know. I might be able to put it on a container to England when my company ships out product. Then have it shipped from there.
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: craigo on January 12, 2013, 11:00:44 AM
Yeah, I trail brake too. I was being ironic.. :pardon:

CraigO
Title: Re: Shim Caliper.
Post by: FJmonkey on January 12, 2013, 07:57:11 PM
My rear caliper is 7.4 MM, plenty of meat left on it. Shipping to Ireland?