Here's my 17" rear wheel conversion.
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p497/kricket111/FJ1100/fj11005.jpg)
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p497/kricket111/FJ1100/DCP01326.jpg)
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p497/kricket111/FJ1100/fj110013.jpg)
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p497/kricket111/FJ1100/fj110014.jpg)
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p497/kricket111/FJ1100/fj110015.jpg)
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p497/kricket111/FJ1100/fj11007.jpg)
looks great, :good2:, how wide ts the brake caliper mount at the wheel (popcorn)
The brake caliper mount is about 40mm wide where the axle goes through it.
This mod may be in the works this winter when snow and sub 30 degree weather is the norm. The photos look great
If anyone needs a brand new JT 40t sprocket for this mod I have one . I bought, and that is how I found out that the 92 GSXR 750 wheel I got from the breaker is actually a 92 GSXR600 wheel. The 600 has 5 sprocket bolts and the 750 and 1100 have 6 sprocket bolts)$10 + shipping
Hi giantkiller, Im interested. PM about shipping?
Quote from: craigslist1340 on August 09, 2012, 10:11:57 PM
The brake caliper mount is about 40mm wide where the axle goes through it.
thanks mate, mine is about 25mm but its from an 89 gsxr 750 but im now using a 93 1100 rim
Hi,
is that all there is to do? This seems to be a very simple mod considering it's a wheel size change. I've read up on many different configurations and they all involved grinding and metal work which I have no access to. What size washers are you using for the inside of the rotor where it meets with the rim? Where did you attach the brace on the swingarm for the caliper? Did you use the FJ axle and did you have to change the wheel bearings? Sorry for all the questions but I am very interested in this mod if everything looks good.
Thanks,
Mark
Just ordered a 170/55 x 17 for mine. (PO modded) Noticed the Axle nut went on too far for effective retainer Pin. Also noticed Swing Arm sprung out 4 mm when I loosened the axle nut. Harvy & I reckoned a 180 would hit the Brake Rod & maybe the chain so ordered the 170 for now. Yeah, 2 washers would about do it (- But was going to experiment with their position when I get the wheels back from the paint shop - still haven`t decided on tha colour? - mentioned red and pink to the colour coordinator and got to see her brakfast - again!) . How close did the 180 go for tolerance?
Quote from: aviationfred on August 09, 2012, 11:07:23 PM
This mod may be in the works this winter when snow and sub 30 degree weather is the norm. The photos look great
Thanks, it took longer to get all the parts than to do the work.
Quote from: chocker on August 10, 2012, 06:43:58 AM
Hi,
is that all there is to do? This seems to be a very simple mod considering it's a wheel size change. I've read up on many different configurations and they all involved grinding and metal work which I have no access to. What size washers are you using for the inside of the rotor where it meets with the rim? Where did you attach the brace on the swingarm for the caliper? Did you use the FJ axle and did you have to change the wheel bearings? Sorry for all the questions but I am very interested in this mod if everything looks good.
Thanks,
Mark
NO machining. Just 2 s.s. washers dremeled out to 20mm to go over the stock axle. No shimming the caliper, or the rotor. Picture 4 shows where I changed the lower footpeg bolt to a longer full thread bolt to attach the end of the brake stay. Make sure your donor wheel has the center spacer between the bearings.
John
Quote from: craigslist1340 on August 10, 2012, 01:34:51 PM
Quote from: chocker on August 10, 2012, 06:43:58 AM
Hi,
is that all there is to do? This seems to be a very simple mod considering it's a wheel size change. I've read up on many different configurations and they all involved grinding and metal work which I have no access to. What size washers are you using for the inside of the rotor where it meets with the rim? Where did you attach the brace on the swingarm for the caliper? Did you use the FJ axle and did you have to change the wheel bearings? Sorry for all the questions but I am very interested in this mod if everything looks good.
Thanks,
Mark
Also, I used stock gsxr rear wheel bearings, gsxr caliper, stay and brake hose that I switched ends to make it clear better. Didn't think a s.s. brake hose was necessary.
NO machining. Just 2 s.s. washers dremeled out to 20mm to go over the stock axle. No shimming the caliper, or the rotor. Picture 4 shows where I changed the lower footpeg bolt to a longer full thread bolt to attach the end of the brake stay. Make sure your donor wheel has the center spacer between the bearings.
John
It definitely took longer to find the parts. I finally found a breaker that swore up and down that all the parts came from same bike. But what he sent was a 92 gsxr 600 wheel, cushdrive, with 92 gsxr 750 spacers caliper and caliper bracket. Witch all worked with a combination of the 600, 750 spacers and the fj spacers no washers almost perfect. 180 still has plenty of room. Tire center is 1/8"to the right of center of where the fj wheel was. I think a 190 would fit. I took it on a 900 mile trip through Michigan. No problems. Could hit throttle lock and I cruise down the highway no hands.
Quote from: The General on August 10, 2012, 12:58:43 PM
Just ordered a 170/55 x 17 for mine. (PO modded) Noticed the Axle nut went on too far for effective retainer Pin. Also noticed Swing Arm sprung out 4 mm when I loosened the axle nut. Harvy & I reckoned a 180 would hit the Brake Rod & maybe the chain so ordered the 170 for now. Yeah, 2 washers would about do it (- But was going to experiment with their position when I get the wheels back from the paint shop - still haven`t decided on tha colour? - mentioned red and pink to the colour coordinator and got to see her brakfast - again!) . How close did the 180 go for tolerance?
There is about 4mm from tire to the brake stay, and about 6mm from the tire to the chain.
John
What year and model brake stay are you using?
Mark
Quote from: chocker on August 13, 2012, 04:04:11 PM
What year and model brake stay are you using?
Mark
A GSXR 1100. years 86-92. They're all over Ebay.(Item number: 251011690084)for example. They have a sperical joint on the one end which you can bolt tight to the footpeg and it will still pivot.It has an 8mm hole on both end so no drilling required. I think I used 8mm/1.25/35mm bolt e caliper end, and 8mm/1.25/70mm on the footpeg hole, both with s.s. lock nuts.(Bolt Depot)
John.
Hi, i am quite new to all this and had a question about this conversion, the gsxr750 slingshot rear wheel has bearings with an internal diameter of 14mm yet the fj1200 rear wheel bearings have an internal diameter of 15mm
So how is it possible to use the FJ spindle on this conversion?? Im not a moaner i was just curious
Egg
You're reading the numbers wrong, the FJ has a 20mm axle and the bearing is 15mm wide
Quote from: tlpoe222 on August 27, 2012, 03:43:59 PM
Hi, i am quite new to all this and had a question about this conversion, the gsxr750 slingshot rear wheel has bearings with an internal diameter of 14mm yet the fj1200 rear wheel bearings have an internal diameter of 15mm
So how is it possible to use the FJ spindle on this conversion?? Im not a moaner i was just curious
Egg
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What Travis said. Gsxr and Fj's_have 20mm bearings and axles .
Aaaaaaaaaaahhh..... Yes, sorry guys, i am megatronicly rubbish, :wacko3:
And i bought a slingshot gsxr750 wheel with a good tire, caliper bracket, spindle and all spacers delivered for £32, all i need is some washers and a caliper
Is it possible to use my standard caliper and mount bracket until i can find a gsxr caliper?
Quote from: tlpoe222 on August 29, 2012, 09:22:11 AM
Is it possible to use my standard caliper and mount bracket until i can find a gsxr caliper?
Of course, PROVIDED it fits within the swingarm and positions the caliper centered over the disk with full sweep of the pad surface. You'll have to be the one to check or adjust these items as its not a 'standard' fitment.
IF it does fit properly (or is able to be adjusted easily) you may not want to bother getting the GSXR caliper.
Arnie
Quote from: craigslist1340 on August 13, 2012, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: chocker on August 13, 2012, 04:04:11 PM
What year and model brake stay are you using?
Mark
A GSXR 1100. years 86-92. They're all over Ebay.(Item number: 251011690084)for example. They have a sperical joint on the one end which you can bolt tight to the footpeg and it will still pivot.It has an 8mm hole on both end so no drilling required. I think I used 8mm/1.25/35mm bolt e caliper end, and 8mm/1.25/70mm on the footpeg hole, both with s.s. lock nuts.(Bolt Depot)
John.
Hi craigslist,
Just to be clear the whell also is from a GSXR 1100 86-92?
Thanks ,
Jeff
I gave the wrong years, its 88-92 not 86. but I think wheels up to 98 will work. 1100 or 750 wheels. Depends if you want straight spokes or curved spokes. Get one with the hub and rotor so you don't have to piece it together. I got a 95 1100 complete, and waited for one that was cheapest at the time. I wasn't in a hurry and price was my objective.
John
Quote from: jscgdunn on September 10, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: craigslist1340 on August 13, 2012, 08:43:39 PM
Quote from: chocker on August 13, 2012, 04:04:11 PM
What year and model brake stay are you using?
Mark
A GSXR 1100. years 86-92. They're all over Ebay.(Item number: 251011690084)for example. They have a sperical joint on the one end which you can bolt tight to the footpeg and it will still pivot.It has an 8mm hole on both end so no drilling required. I think I used 8mm/1.25/35mm bolt e caliper end, and 8mm/1.25/70mm on the footpeg hole, both with s.s. lock nuts.(Bolt Depot)
John.
Hi craigslist,
Just to be clear the whell also is from a GSXR 1100 86-92?
Thanks ,
Jeff
Hi,
I'm in the process of getting the parts. I have a 1992 GSXR 1100 rear caliper, sprocket , cush drive, axle spacers and slingshot. I am looking for the wheel. I may change the sprocket. So, for a GSXR 750 wheel, it will work with up to 1998? I ask this because in the FJ GSXR rear wheel conversions by Kit Kat Black it states to use the following:
88-89 GSXR750 & 1989 1100: 4-1/2" 17"
90-92 GSXR750 or 1100 5-1/2"x17"
93-95 GSXR750 5-1/2" x 17"
93-98 GSXR1100 5-1/2" x 17"
Are there other years and models that may work as well. Maybe someone has had some experience with other models.
Thanks,
Mark
Hello, use one of the wheels you have listed and you won't have any problems. Make sure the spacer is between the bearings. The wheel I bought someone didn't put it back when they changed one bearing.
John
Hi,
I found a 1992 GSXR 600 WN rim that is a 17" X 5.5. It has the six sections for the cush drive and not five. This bike was only made for the 92-93 model years. Would this fit as well. I ask this because it is a great price and I might be able to pick it up instead of paying shipping.
Thanks,
Mark
Hello cocker, giantkiller might be able to help you as I think he has a similar wheel.
I purchased a sprocket from him as it would not fit his wheel. he said the following...
" I found out that the 92 GSXR 750 wheel I got from the breaker is actually a 92 GSXR600 wheel. The 600 has 5 sprocket bolts and the 750 and 1100 have 6 sprocket bolt"
Hope that helps.
Tony
Yeah but I saw a picture of the wheel and it had six sprocket bolts and not five as I have previously stated.
Thanks,
Mark
Here is the Ebay item # 200821539449
Mark
looks like the same cush drive as the 89 ect 1100 rims, , that's a bargain price , buy it,, buyyyy itttt :good2:
chocker..that rim has been listed a long time... I was watching it months ago.. as for what it is..from what I see on the Suzuki OEM list the default GSXR600 rim had the straight spokes 92/93...GSXR600 not availabe in 94/95/96..the list does indicate other variants but no pics.
The rim I ended up getting ('89,GSXR750/1100) looks exactly like the one you show from ebay,
It accepts a 20mm axle and the measurement from outer drive sprocket to tire center is about 4 1/2"..very close to original '85 rim
....looks like your good to go !! :good2:
Tony
also chocker, just a heads up.. I see the seller is shipping by UPS.. just so you know, into Canada UPS will screw you big time.. I bet fees will easily double the purchase price above what you pay to ship up front.
:good:
Tony
I know about the UPS thing but thanks for the heads up. The reason I am going to get it is because I am actually going to Long Island New York this weekend and it is on the way. I get to save the shipping. I am in the process of trying to contact the merchant to setup a pickup.
Thanks,
Mark
Sorry haven't been on for a while.
The 92 gsxr 600 wheel is is a straight spoke and only has 5 bolts in the cush drive. cush drive also sets the sprocket slightly farther away from the wheel. So the internal spacer is different than the 750-1100 wheels. The spacer between the brake caliper bracket and the wheel is different also. Allot of breakers don't know exactly what there parts are. I got mine from a breaker in NY who swore up and down that all the parts came off same bike (GSXR 750). What I got was 92 GSXR 600 wheel, cush drive. With 92 GSXR750 spacers and brake caliper and bracket.
I'll go from chain side to brake side and tell you what spacers I used. Between the swingarm and the cush drive 92 GSXR750 spacer. Got the correct cush drive spacer for the 92 GSXR600 between the cush and wheel. Got the 92 GSXR600 spacer between the wheel and the 92 GSXR 750 caliper bracket. I used the same spacer that is between the swingarm and the cushdrive on the other side between brake bracket and swingarm. Almost perfect. The center of tire is 1/8" to he right of where the center of the FJ tire was. In relation to the swingarm. (Oh ya I rode 1000 miles no problems, no odd wear on chain or sprockets. But the rear sprocket wasn't exactly in the middle of the chain rollers so I put a .020 shim between the swingarm and the cushdrive spacer. Had to buy 25 of them so If any one needs one postage and its yours)
I can set the throttle lock @ 80 and ride down the highway with no hands.
That Reminds me If anybody wants the spacer for GSXR 750-1100 cushdrive and the thimble looking spacer for the wheel and brake calliper bracket (that the breacker sent me) Same thing postage and they are yours.
If you look at the picture of the wheel that is being sold it shows six spaces on the cush drive side and not five.
Mark
Some guys who sell on there don't really know what they have.
I was sold, sometime way back (by another FJer, sight unseen), an 'early YZF600' wheel.
When I received it, I found that it was indeed in the described condition, but apparently was a FZR600 wheel, which is the same as the stock FJ 17" rim, from what I gather. So I was stuck with a duplicate (but a lot uglier) front rim. :dash2:
Quote from: giantkiller on October 12, 2012, 09:52:03 AM
That Reminds me If anybody wants the spacer for GSXR 750-1100 cushdrive and the thimble looking spacer for the wheel and brake calliper bracket (that the breacker sent me) Same thing postage and they are yours.
If it is still available and you are in the U.S., I am interested. Thanks. I have sent a private email to you.
Got the wheel this weekend. The tire is finished but I am going to change it anyway. I am in the process of cleaning it. It's great what an SOS pad and some elbow grease can clean. Waiting for some other bits from Nurse and a brake rotor and pads then by next spring it's going on the bike.
Mark
I have pretty much everything except for the tires front and rear. I am waiting to buy those. I found some washers that were approximately 21mm in diameter and 2 1/2mm in width. Would this cause any problems because I see that ther is a 4mm difference in widtch between the stock wheel and the GSXR wheel.
Thanks,
Mark
Let me rephrase. Each washer is 2 1/2 mm in width. That makes 5mm instead of the 4mm that should be the difference.
Mark
Put one on each side of the wheel. That 0.5mm each side will keep it all centered.
Arnie
Quote from: chocker on October 25, 2012, 08:24:21 AM
Let me rephrase. Each washer is 2 1/2 mm in width. That makes 5mm instead of the 4mm that should be the difference.
Mark
Ok,
once I get everything together I will do that.
Thanks,
Mark
if your going with the washer either side trick, make sure you have the right brake caliper bracket, as they can be different widths between the 750 and 1100 ones, about 5mm from memory , according to what year they are from
I have a 1992 1100 bracket.
Mark
No worries, you should be fine, , just the washes as the instructions say ,, I used the 89 gsxr 750 bracket , as I had a 4.5" wheel to start with , now 5.5", but had to work out the spacers as the two washer set up wasn't right for my parts ,,
I have a 5.5 wheel. I will have to see when I install but I am sure it will work out.
I did my rear wheel mod a couple of years ago, love it. Heres a link to some photos of the start/finish of the job. http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo115/raywise_2008/FJ1200%20Wheel%20Change/ (http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo115/raywise_2008/FJ1200%20Wheel%20Change/)
Hoo Roo
X-Ray
Quote from: X-Ray on November 05, 2012, 08:13:34 AM
I did my rear wheel mod a couple of years ago, love it. Heres a link to some photos of the start/finish of the job. http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo115/raywise_2008/FJ1200%20Wheel%20Change/ (http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo115/raywise_2008/FJ1200%20Wheel%20Change/)
Hoo Roo
X-Ray
X-RAY! Where Yoo Bin. Night Shift I see. Go to the Aussie Rally thread. Hidden in there is a coded instruction for ya. The reference is "invisible medical type"
Great ta see ya. (Pun intended) Doug
All booked in for March Doug, Woohoo!
Bout bloody time :wacko3: