So I'm thinking about investing in a nice fancy carb sync gauge set. I have tried the homemade ones and failed so I have been looking at the ones with the gauges over the mercury ones, just because it seems like over time the gauges will have a longer life....that's just what I have read.
Have seen a lot that are similar to this type -
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/65/21754/ITEM/Emgo-Carburetor-Synchronizer.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/65/21754/ITEM/Emgo-Carburetor-Synchronizer.aspx)
What do you guys think? Is this one legit? Worth the money?
Quote from: FJdude on May 17, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
So I'm thinking about investing in a nice fancy carb sync gauge set. I have tried the homemade ones and failed so I have been looking at the ones with the gauges over the mercury ones, just because it seems like over time the gauges will have a longer life....that's just what I have read.
Have seen a lot that are similar to this type -
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/65/21754/ITEM/Emgo-Carburetor-Synchronizer.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/65/21754/ITEM/Emgo-Carburetor-Synchronizer.aspx)
What do you guys think? Is this one legit? Worth the money?
See what RPM offers as well...Randy builds FJ engines and knows a thing or two about carb syncing.
http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3A4gage (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3A4gage)
http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3Asyncpro (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Carb%3Asyncpro)
Quote from: FJdude on May 17, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
So I'm thinking about investing in a nice fancy carb sync gauge set. I have tried the homemade ones and failed so I have been looking at the ones with the gauges over the mercury ones, just because it seems like over time the gauges will have a longer life....that's just what I have read.
Have seen a lot that are similar to this type -
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/65/21754/ITEM/Emgo-Carburetor-Synchronizer.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/65/21754/ITEM/Emgo-Carburetor-Synchronizer.aspx)
What do you guys think? Is this one legit? Worth the money?
FJdude, I have a set of those.
My observations are that they are very sensitive (you have to run the restrictors almost fully closed to prevent needle flutter), and they are very sensitive when zeroing the gauges to start with.
Apart from that, they worked just fine.
Harvy
I tried gauges years ago but I find the vertical columns on the sticks easier to read than 4 gauges with fluttering needles. After a knuckle head move sucking the liquid mercury out of my last stick, I moved to a Morgan Carb Tune which is my current fav.
Note to Leon.... Do not blip your throttle with the stick connected.... Like me, you will wonder where all the mercury went.
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 17, 2012, 11:23:13 PM
I moved to a Morgan Carb Tune which is my current fav.
+1 there is no better -seems to me.
Dan
Quote from: Pat Conlon on May 17, 2012, 11:23:13 PM
I tried gauges years ago but I find the vertical columns on the sticks easier to read than 4 gauges with fluttering needles. After a knuckle head move sucking the liquid mercury out of my last stick, I moved to a Morgan Carb Tune which is my current fav.
Note to Leon.... Do not blip your throttle with the stick connected.... Like me, you will wonder where all the mercury went.
You could always buy some mecury on Craigslist:
http://www.chron.com/home/article/MN-recovers-64-lbs-mercury-offered-on-Craigslist-3566160.php (http://www.chron.com/home/article/MN-recovers-64-lbs-mercury-offered-on-Craigslist-3566160.php)
Never used one, but friends who have them rave about them. The Twinmax.
http://www.ascycles.com/detail.aspx?ID=2146 (http://www.ascycles.com/detail.aspx?ID=2146)
I have a set of gauges exactly like that, but I got them from JC Whitney on sale for $15 lots of years ago. They work fine but are touchy and do require you to keep re-setting them so X units of vacuum gives an equal reading on all gauges.
The set of gauges Randy sells looks to be better quality.
I've used mercury sticks before and they are also ok.
If I were going to replace them, I'd get the Morgan Carb-Stix.
Arnie
Quote from: FJdude on May 17, 2012, 09:45:00 PM
So I'm thinking about investing in a nice fancy carb sync gauge set. I have tried the homemade ones and failed so I have been looking at the ones with the gauges over the mercury ones, just because it seems like over time the gauges will have a longer life....that's just what I have read.
Have seen a lot that are similar to this type -
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/65/21754/ITEM/Emgo-Carburetor-Synchronizer.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/65/21754/ITEM/Emgo-Carburetor-Synchronizer.aspx)
What do you guys think? Is this one legit? Worth the money?
Sounds like everyone here loves those Morgan carb sticks...I would not be opposed to getting mercury sticks I just read somewhere that after X amount of years the mercury dries out and good luck finding mercury or wanting to replace it.
It looks like the Morgan carb sticks run about $98, I would not mind spending an extra $20 or $30 on something that will make my life a whole lot easier, but I also plan on keeping these things for a very long time as I rebuild motors (not just motorcycle, outboard, and farm equipment as well). So I would like what ever I am getting to last, be durable, and easy as possible.
Let me know what you guys think and thanks you guys are great!
The Morgan Carbtune meets all your requirements.
Get it.
DavidR.
Mercury doesn't dry out, it evaporates, so volatile it will work its way thru glass given enough time.
More importantly, it spills. And that's annoying.
The morgan rocks to use. It sucks to pay for, and it sucks to wait for if they're shipped from overseas. Once it's in your hands, it makes synching carbs laughably easy.
Go with the Morgan Carbtune. You won't regret it.
+6 on the Morgan
I had it shipped to me Down Under in 8days
By 8.3 days I was cruising vibe free
and it really is easy peasy :good2:
Darran
I bought and used the Motion Pro SyncPro Carb Tuner... worked like a charm
Quote from: bigbore2 on May 18, 2012, 03:22:04 PM
Mercury doesn't dry out, it evaporates, so volatile it will work its way thru glass given enough time.
Isn't "drying out" for lack of a better word evaporate???
Sorry,
For the late response, but I just want to make sure everyone understands the Motion Pro mercury filled sync tool is no longer available. There is some sources for mercury if you have spilled or sucked your out of the tool. It is expensive and as always toxic.
Motion pro introduced the SyncPro as the replacement of the mercury filled gauges.
I stock both the SyncPro and a set of mechanical gauges. Ultimately, it comes down to preference. I can offer that I have both tools and I use the gauges exclusively anymore.
The needle type gauge does not care what position it is in, so I can lay it flat next to the carbs as I sync them. I do not have to have the hanging vertically and looking away from the task at hand to read the gauge. Also you can crank the throttle and not worry about sucking out the fluid.
With the SyncPro if you do suck out the fluid the replacement fluid doesn't have a great expensive the old mercury fluid had.
Randy - RPM
Thanks Randy,
I'm probably gonna go with the mechanical gauges, mainly for the reasons you listed. I was also thinking about building my own. I found a website that sells pool equipment and they have vacuum gauges that go up to 30" of Hg for about 5 bucks a pop. Would I be able to do this with any sort of vacuum gauge (like the one I listed) or do I need a special vacuum gauge???
Here is the website - http://www.yardandpool.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=IPVG3024L (http://www.yardandpool.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=IPVG3024L)
And another as well - http://www.paspdirect.com/tarsonpools/product.html?id=1436 (http://www.paspdirect.com/tarsonpools/product.html?id=1436)
I might also look around locally so I don't get bent over for the shipping charges...if I can build one for say $30 or $40 bucks I think it is worth a try...
FJ Dude- you got to this before I did . I AM AN IDIOT! ok I said it , yes drying out and evaporate is the SAME thing. Don't know what happened at my previous post, some brain neurons got all mixed up or something. I owe you a beer.
I have a few of them including the twin max, vertical mercury tubes and the Morgan Carbtune. I find the Morgan Carbtune to be the easiest for the FJ's. There is no hassle of accidently losing the mercury and is just as accurate! The twin max works well on BMW boxer style engines. The Morgan Carbtune is made of good quality and comes with it's own case. You can purchase it online for about a 100.00 bucks.