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Title: Mirrors on 86
Post by: sovrin on April 21, 2012, 04:56:10 PM
So I'm trying to figure out a way to deal with mirrors on my 86FJ.  Previous owner lets things get out of hand.
There is rust inside the mirror in the cavity behind the mirror glass itself.  Lots of stuff rattling inside.
The mirror glass is really stained and weathered.  I would like to know if there is a way to get the mirror glass
off the mirror so I can deal with that.  Then I could go to a glass place and they could cut new mirror glass.
The arm and mounting is all in good shape.  Any thoughts.
Title: Re: Mirrors on 86
Post by: FJmonkey on April 21, 2012, 06:28:56 PM
Quote from: sovrin on April 21, 2012, 04:56:10 PM
So I'm trying to figure out a way to deal with mirrors on my 86FJ.  Previous owner lets things get out of hand.
There is rust inside the mirror in the cavity behind the mirror glass itself.  Lots of stuff rattling inside.
The mirror glass is really stained and weathered.  I would like to know if there is a way to get the mirror glass
off the mirror so I can deal with that.  Then I could go to a glass place and they could cut new mirror glass.
The arm and mounting is all in good shape.  Any thoughts.
I have never heard of anyone repairing OEM mirrors... I switched to CBR1000 mirrors and can see past my elbows now. This is what I did.

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Title: Re: Mirrors on 86
Post by: sovrin on May 02, 2012, 06:57:59 AM
Thanks for the info.  I haven't been on the forum for a while.
Title: Re: Mirrors on 86
Post by: FJ Flyer on May 02, 2012, 06:53:53 PM
No real way to get the glass out. The rattle is from the damping weight that came off the back of the glass.  Best solution is to drill a hole in the bottom and shoot some expanding foam back there.  NOT TOO MUCH.  It will blow out the glass.  Only other option is to order new units or find some on ebay.
Title: Re: Mirrors on 86
Post by: Dr. Jay on June 02, 2012, 09:26:24 PM
I did what FJ monkey did and am very happy with the results. I did have to elongate the mounting holes in the CBR 1000 mirrors though. I wish I could remember which model year mirrors I used but I can tell you that I tried CBR 600 mirrors first and couldn't make them work although I had heard they could be made to fit.
Title: Re: Mirrors on 86
Post by: RichBaker on June 02, 2012, 09:48:12 PM
CBR1000,  '02 or '03 was what I used.  Took the mirrors out of the OEM Honda brackets, and installed them in the FJ brackets (took a bit of filing on the inside of the bracket where the mirror stem wanted to hit). With the FJ brackets, they bolted right on... About an hour, maybe a little more. 
Title: Re: Mirrors on 86
Post by: Klavdy on June 03, 2012, 12:55:57 AM
Quote from: Dr. Jay on June 02, 2012, 09:26:24 PM
I did what FJ monkey did and am very happy with the results. I did have to elongate the mounting holes in the CBR 1000 mirrors though. I wish I could remember which model year mirrors I used but I can tell you that I tried CBR 600 mirrors first and couldn't make them work although I had heard they could be made to fit.
Glad to hear that it worked out and you're happy with the result.
It's been a well documented saga, eh?
Would you mind posting some photos up?
There is a way to get the glass out of the OEM mirrors, you'll need a heat gun or hairdryer and a credit card style piece of plastic as a tool.
Heat the plastic mirror casing up with the hair dryer, work the credit card shim in between the glass and the mirror case and gently run it around the edge till it pops out.
Inside there will be a heap of rotted expanding foam and a couple of small metal plates about 1"X2"
These act as vibration dampers.
Clean it out, squirt some expanding foam(comes in a pressure pack, buy it at Home Depot, Lowes or Bunnings) into the cavity and let it set overnight.
Sink the metal plates into the foam while it is still wet.
File and sand it to shape.
Replace the glass the same way you got it out.
You might have to play around with the placing of the amount of foam/metal plates as the plates may have risen up over the edge of the plastic case if you've put too much expanding foam in.
Don't be tempted to just drill a hole and squirt foam in.
You'll blow the glass out and it will shatter.
Title: Re: Mirrors on 86
Post by: sovrin on July 17, 2012, 01:35:20 PM
I tried the heat gun and I was able to get the mirror glass out.  Inside there are 2 larger and 1 smaller weight in each mirror cavity.  Were those weights glued to the back of the glass mirror originally?  Or were they somewhere else in the plastic housing?  I have a local glass company trying to cut me some new mirror glass, using the old ones as a pattern.  We will see how they do.  I just want to be sure I put the weights back in the right spot.  Any body know exactly how they are supposed to be positioned inside there? :unknown:
Title: Re: Mirrors on 86
Post by: Klavdy on July 18, 2012, 05:18:05 PM
You need to place it in between the two mounds.

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Title: Re: Mirrors on 86
Post by: fj11.5 on July 18, 2012, 06:07:41 PM
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