Poll
Question:
how did you do it ?
Option 1: 02 FRONT FORK SPEEDO
votes: 0
Option 2: LIKE THIS
votes: 0
Are you ready for this?????? Yes I have made the FZ1 front fork conversion and kept the speedo drive intact. What??????? Yes it is a fact.........beyond my wildest aspirations !!!!!!!!!! Frank(Moore)......?? You may want to have a gander at this !!!!!!! I have successfully completed your FZ1 front fork mod .........with one exception............. NO DOWNSIDE !!!!!!!!!!!!! I was able to mill out enough of the fork of the 2002 front fork and shave off enough of the 97 THUNDERACE speedo assembly to allow the OEM speedo drive to work. Removed the rubber oil seal and the spacer from the 02 front fork......milled out 7mm from the inside of the fork and slid it in !!!!!!!!! LOL .....It is a thing of beauty.....I will post the results.........but I am extremely happy right now as I am sure you can tell.....
Kev
Extremely well done mate! :good2: Post up some pics please.
Harvy
Pictures, walkthroughs, etc! That's a good mod if you can retain the speedo!
Quote from: andyb on July 29, 2011, 07:50:42 AM
Pictures, walkthroughs, etc! That's a good mod if you can retain the speedo, and not affect the structural integrity of the fork!
There I fixed it for you.
Dan
i used to think that losing the stock speedo was a downside to the FZ1 fork conversion but now that i have my Acewell digital dash with dual trip meters, temp ,voltage,fuel , average and max speed along with riding and total time i dont miss the stock speedo one little bit.
i can see where it could be beneficial to someone else though.
post up some pics :good2:
KOokaloo!
(popcorn) (popcorn) (popcorn)
Waiting for the pictures and process!!! I wanted to try this on my USD R1 forks but even if you can get the gap at the fork leg the radial brakes interfere with the cable routing....
Lets see those shots!
tim
Sorry guys......tied one on last night......I was celebrating.......... :drinks:....lol....will post pics :gamer: today...in the photo gallery. Kev
KOOKALOO ???? Is that you Frankie ????? Well hot diggity....DAWG........What a great honor this is for me....I was looking for you a while back.....had no idea that you were THE KOOK MAN :shok:...thank you for your inspiration.....I am quite new to this and am still learning the ropes...........but thanks to the great pioneers like yourself and Marco (Rittner)Polo.........the undiscovered land of the MODS are being explored with great passion and enthusiasm.........thanks.. :drinks:...you Big kook............... :good:...pics will be up before I leave for the cottage tonight..... :praising:
Can
Quote from: CanDman on July 29, 2011, 02:58:04 PM
KOOKALOO ???? Is that you Frankie ????? Well hot diggity....DAWG........What a great honor this is for me....I was looking for you a while back.....had no idea that you were THE KOOK MAN :shok:...thank you for your inspiration.....I am quite new to this and am still learning the ropes...........but thanks to the great pioneers like yourself and Marco (Rittner)Polo.........the undiscovered land of the MODS are being explored with great passion and enthusiasm.........thanks.. :drinks:...you Big kook............... :good:...pics will be up before I leave for the cottage tonight..... :praising:
Can
yup it's me :biggrin:
You know MR Rittner ? LOL tell him i said hello and shit :good2:
mods are good!
KOokaloo! is good too!
Hey Kev, I saw your Gallery pictures on the lower leg mod to get the 17mm T-Ace speedo drive to fit.
I'm worried that you removed too much material on that fork leg....
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1652_29_07_11_9_45_19.jpeg)
Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 30, 2011, 11:56:31 AM
Hey Kev, I saw your Gallery pictures on the lower leg mod to get the 17mm T-Ace speedo drive to fit.
I'm worried that you removed too much material on that fork leg....
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1652_29_07_11_9_45_19.jpeg)
Wow.
I don't think that I'd like to ride it on the roads we go on up in Nthn Ca.
http://blip.tv/play/Ab7DRAI (http://blip.tv/play/Ab7DRAI)
http://blip.tv/bikertoad/trailer-trash-preview-i-1024352 (http://blip.tv/bikertoad/trailer-trash-preview-i-1024352)
Awesome video thank's for posting it.
Wow- the machining looks pretty clean and nice. I see that it is recessed on the inner side and you cut away some material to allow the cable but the stock design of the fork seems intact above and below the axle where the most stress would happen....
Once it's all bolted together the recess won't matter much (strength wise) as there will be flush contact across the length of the axle with the speedo drive inserted and the axle tightened up. I would think its probably not much weaker...
The canal made for the cable was the risky part and I think you did a great job- looks minimal material removed. I was wondering how much of the recessing on the fork you could eliminate by reducing the width of the speedo drive instead? I have an extra speedo drive I got a hold of to modify and see where the limits are for grinding it narrower.
Looking forward to hearing how it all works for you!
tim
O.K, sweet then, good mod.
I'm no machinist, to me as a layman, it looked a bit suss.
Quote from: Klavdy on July 31, 2011, 10:57:33 PM
O.K, sweet then, good mod.
I'm no machinist, to me as a layman, it looked a bit suss.
Yeah- I was thinking last night that I should be careful not to give reckless advice! Bottom line is unless you stress tested it there is not way to know. In my mind it would take a pretty big front end hit to break the axle out of the fork- even with the reduced material. If that were to happen the biggest worry would be the front end impact itself not the axle... so? Would this mod allow additional flex or movement during use that would make the bike perform differently? I don't think so since its solid once its all tightened on..
I can tell you this- I thought long and hard about digging into the R1 fork bottoms and trying to thin the speedo drive to keep my mod easy and retain a functional speedo.... Now I am thinking about it again..!
Looking forward to hearing more canDman!
Hey....thx guys for the interest.......Pat...always nice to hear you weigh in on the subject.....initially when we measured everything...the stock set up was 160 mm inside to inside (the 2 front forks) but with the the speedo hub assembly.......brought it out to 180mm....so we needed to remove 20mm........at first we were going to scrub the whole idea........we didn't want to remove too much material from the fork.......so after alot of discussion and debate it was agreed that if we remove 12mm from the wheel and 1mm from the face of the speedo we would only need to mill into the fork a total of 7mm. The other thing that was neccessary was to take the cone shape out of the speedo hub........so if you look closely at the before and after view of the hub you will see the square shape rather than the cone shape.....then the cut was so precise that I needed to use a screw driver to dig it out and a some force to get it in........but it is very snug......and I am enclined to agree with Tim.........everything feels very tight ......I am going to say that if there was strength lost at all......I am thinking no more than 5-10% .......now that all parts are machined and ready......I will make the conversions as soon as I get a window......Thanks again for all your interest and I will post new photos as they become available.....Kev
Quote from: Harvy on July 28, 2011, 11:59:21 PM
Extremely well done mate! :good2: Post up some pics please.
Harvy
Thanks Harv :empathy:.....I can always count on your encouragement and support... :drinks:..mate
Quote from: Klavdy on July 30, 2011, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on July 30, 2011, 11:56:31 AM
Hey Kev, I saw your Gallery pictures on the lower leg mod to get the 17mm T-Ace speedo drive to fit.
I'm worried that you removed too much material on that fork leg....
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/2/1652_29_07_11_9_45_19.jpeg)
Wow.
I don't think that I'd like to ride it on the roads we go on up in Nthn Ca.
http://blip.tv/play/Ab7DRAI (http://blip.tv/play/Ab7DRAI)
http://blip.tv/bikertoad/trailer-trash-preview-i-1024352 (http://blip.tv/bikertoad/trailer-trash-preview-i-1024352)
ever go as far as Nunavut.......pretty squirley roads for sure !!!!!!! :wacko3:
I machined a 89 FZR 1000 front wheel to except a FJ front wheel bearings.Some folks thought that was to much metal removed from the hub, but after a year and a half it has held up great.All you can do is try it and either prove people wrong or right.
Buddy
Quote from: bama1 on August 02, 2011, 08:27:22 AM
I machined a 89 FZR 1000 front wheel to except a FJ front wheel bearings.Some folks thought that was to much metal removed from the hub, but after a year and a half it has held up great.All you can do is try it and either prove people wrong or right.
Buddy
Thx for the encouragement Buddy....... :praising:......it's nice when people have nice things to say......even Paddy....although.....he didn't say anything "nice" at least expressed his concern with class and care.........which I appreciate...........but like you said......there's only one way to find out.........drive up and ride those wiley roads of northern Canada......... :biggrin:
You do not have to go all the way to Canada to try your mod out come to western North Carolina.There are just as good of roads around here.
Buddy
Quote from: bama1 on August 02, 2011, 11:25:37 AM
You do not have to go all the way to Canada to try your mod out come to western North Carolina.There are just as good of roads around here.
Buddy
LOL........I live in Canada....Toronto actually...........I guess.....some of our members don't realize that Ca. doesn't just stand for California. I was being a bit fascicious which was aimed at them. I understand that a little ribbing is quite acceptable here........ :blum1:. Now as far as a ride down to N.C.......sounds amazing....will accept that invite and maybe sooner than you think...... :good2: Kev
Sorry I didnt know where you lived.Im sure you have some killer roads there also.Hey let me now when your ever down this way.
Buddy
Quote from: bama1 on August 02, 2011, 08:51:51 PM
Sorry I didn't know where you lived.I'm sure you have some killer roads there also.Hey let me now when your ever down this way.
Buddy
CanD is the name of my bike because I am Canadian.....and the ole girl has the same colours as candycain.........and she is a sweet ride :good2:......no offence was taken by anything you said but I appreciate your gesture and your good nature. I wish everyone was the same. Someone posted a comment here that could be considered either arrogant or ignorant....take your pick. Some pepole don't feel very good about themselves unless they criticize someone else.......but that individual certainly isn't you. I would love to explore your neck of the woods one day..the journey is more fun than the road itself......FJ....."Fantastic Journey"
Kev
Quote from: axiom-r on July 31, 2011, 01:31:45 PM
Wow- the machining looks pretty clean and nice. I see that it is recessed on the inner side and you cut away some material to allow the cable but the stock design of the fork seems intact above and below the axle where the most stress would happen....
Once it's all bolted together the recess won't matter much (strength wise) as there will be flush contact across the length of the axle with the speedo drive inserted and the axle tightened up. I would think its probably not much weaker...
The canal made for the cable was the risky part and I think you did a great job- looks minimal material removed. I was wondering how much of the recessing on the fork you could eliminate by reducing the width of the speedo drive instead? I have an extra speedo drive I got a hold of to modify and see where the limits are for grinding it narrower.
Looking forward to hearing how it all works for you!
tim
Tim....just wanted to thank you for your great support....................my hope was to show others another option than losing there stock speedo. I will certainly keep you in the lupe..as things progress....and one day I will take the trek down to the west coast line of beautiful California.....ventured down there on a plane...but haven't done the road trip yet...and anytime you r up this side of the border...look me up....Kev