There is a .pdf that somebody made documenting the GSXR rear wheel mod, and I have a couple of questions:
It talks about the fact that you need a COMPLETE rear wheel (Rotor, Rim, Cush, sprocket?) AND a Gthe correct GSXR Brake caliper
1) How does the caliper mount without a bracket or a change to the swingarm...ie, where does the caliper bolt to?
2) What do you do about the sprocket? Do you use the one from the GSXR or does the Old Yam one bolt right up?
3) Do you re-use the old axle from the Yam or do you use the one from the GSXR?
the 10'th gsxr wheel mod thread discussed this in some depth................http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2762.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2762.0)
(popcorn)
1) There is a bracket for the caliper that hangs from the axle bolt on the right side of the wheel. It has a bushing in it that the bolt clamps between the swingarm and the wheel bearing inner race. This bushing allows the caliper and bracket to pivot on the axle front to rear.
2)Use a Suzuki sprocket. Different bolt pattern than Yamaha. The GSX-R's tend to have more teeth, if you want closer to stock gearing try a Bandit 1200 sprocket.
3) Stock FJ axle works fine.
Good luck! I know I asked a lot of questions when doing mine, but it all made sense once I had the right parts in hand.
Doug
Thats right carsick....it an absolute Mind Fuc$%^ trying to straighten out in your mind all the options.
I won't go bankrupt if I get the wrong wheel, but its an absolute royal PITA to have a wheel you dont need sitting around in your garage for like a year until you find somebody who wants it.
I'd like to get the parts I need in-hand first.
I have a Bridgeport and a lathe at work, the machining is not a hassle at all, in fact that part would be fun.
I think the FZR rear wheel mod will be easier though.
If you have machining capability go for the YZF600 rear wheel. Cheaper, easier to find, stays all Yamaha, less confusing. Isn't the FZR rear an 18"? I think that would limit tire availability much like the 16" stocker. I'm just guessing.
Hello All,
I just purchased the entire wheel and brake hardware from a 1990 GSXR 750. Yep, got all the parts from one bike. Looking forward to doing the 17 inch wheel conversion over the winter, but I got to wear out my last D205 first.
Damn, I am excited!!!
CraigO
90FJ1200
Has anyone used a Dunlop Sportmax 170/60-17 on their 17" rear wheel? If so, any clearance issues or anything else I should be worried about?
CraigO
90FJ1200
Quote from: Perez on October 15, 2010, 08:05:50 AM
There is a .pdf that somebody made documenting the GSXR rear wheel mod, and I have a couple of questions:
It talks about the fact that you need a COMPLETE rear wheel (Rotor, Rim, Cush, sprocket?) AND a Gthe correct GSXR Brake caliper
1) How does the caliper mount without a bracket or a change to the swingarm...ie, where does the caliper bolt to?
2) What do you do about the sprocket? Do you use the one from the GSXR or does the Old Yam one bolt right up?
3) Do you re-use the old axle from the Yam or do you use the one from the GSXR?
You will need the complete rear wheel assembly, matching caliper and caliper mounting bracket. I used 1991 GSXR 750, 3.5 & 5.5 inch wide X 17 wheels for my swap. I used everything but the wheel spacers. The swap required machining new spacers to get the wheel in the center of the swingarm. I machined a billet brake stay and welded a new mounting tab on the bottom of the swingarm to mount the other end of the brake stay. Then remove the sprocket and machine it's mounting surface to line up the chain. You can use your FJ axle as is. Be careful with your tire choice so you won't need to trim the tire to clear the chain. I just installed Dunlop Roadsmart dual compound tires and the rear cleared with room to spare, i am using a 170/60-17.
The front is a lot more fabricating, wheel bearings, spacers, caliper brackets, brake lines, speedo cable adapter and speedo busshing for the FJ axle. I did this around 1993 and more will come to me later, i have pictures and i will post them when i can figure out how to post them. I am computer challenged so this may take a while.
I am a new member and this is my first time posting on a website. I hope this will help, Cheers, Widget
Hey Widget, Thanks for the tire info, however, I was under the impression that there was no machining necessary with the GSXR wheel swap. Just needed a couple of 4mm spacers on each end on the wheel assy in the swing arm. Also the sprocket carrier required no machining, just a 40 tooth bandit sprocket.
I am also wondering, use the Suzuki brake master cylinder, or retain the Yamaha?
Is my info wrong or are we taking different roads to reach the same place?
CraigO
90FJ1200
Craigo,
I installed a GSXR rear on my FJ in 1998. Since then, many others have also used the GSXR as an easy no-machining option to get a 17" rear wheel. I have never heard of anyone needing to do any machining of the carrier, sprocket, or internal spacers unless they were using a 180 or wider tire. There have been a number of ways to anchor the brake stay to either the swingarm or the chassis. While there may be some theoretical advantage to one or the other, in real world usage they all seem fine.
The FJ rear M/C works just fine, but you may need a slightly longer brake hose.
All above is correct and true to the best of my knowledge - BUT it is your bike and your mod. Get the parts and measure it all yourself. That way you'll know.
Cheers,
Arnie
God bless you Arnie,
So the spacers are still in doubt. As I am sure that when I get all the parts in front of me, these will go away. I feel that all I need to do is measure the sprocket distance from the swingarm to the sprocket on the OEM set up and duplicate it on the GSXR wheel. Then there should be no deflect on the chain/sprocket assy. But will the tire be centered? Am I thinking right or am I missing something? :scratch_one-s_head:
Thanks,
CraigO
90FJ1200
Quote from: craigo on October 19, 2010, 03:57:19 AM
Hey Widget, Thanks for the tire info, however, I was under the impression that there was no machining necessary with the GSXR wheel swap. Just needed a couple of 4mm spacers on each end on the wheel assy in the swing arm. Also the sprocket carrier required no machining, just a 40 tooth bandit sprocket.
I am also wondering, use the Suzuki brake master cylinder, or retain the Yamaha?
Is my info wrong or are we taking different roads to reach the same place?
CraigO
90FJ1200
Craig,
If i remember correctly the GSXR rear axle is a larger diameter than the 1984 FJ. I changed the wheel bearings and inner sleeve to match the FJ axle OD. The spacers needed to change to match the Axle, center the wheel and just look trick out of aluminum. The spacer between the caliper bracket and the bearing is the same width as the GSXR. I machined the spacer between the caliper bracket and the swingarm with a thin flange and pressed it into the bracket to retain it and match the axle diameter. The sprocket side spacer is the same OD to match the seal, axle OD and wheel centering apply.
I needed to machine the sprcket to move the chain closer to the wheel centerline, not the best for tire clearance. I learned something about tires and profiles along the way, we can talk later if anyone is interested.
I used the FJ master and made up a longer brake line routed it down along the brake stay and to the caliper.
I posted some pictures in the gallery under Widget (the dog) and some shots of my FJ. I will try to attach them, still learning!
Cheers, Widget
Thanks Widget, but is there a difference between the 84 and the 90 rear wheel assys? Maybe that is the conflict in what you are suggesting and what I have read. Anyway, once I get the wheel assy, I am sure that alot of these silly questions will go away.
Plus, I am like a kid on Christmas Eve over this.
CraigO
90 FJ1200
Quote from: craigo on October 19, 2010, 02:49:04 PM
God bless you Arnie,
So the spacers are still in doubt. As I am sure that when I get all the parts in front of me, these will go away. I feel that all I need to do is measure the sprocket distance from the swingarm to the sprocket on the OEM set up and duplicate it on the GSXR wheel. Then there should be no deflect on the chain/sprocket assy. But will the tire be centered? Am I thinking right or am I missing something? :scratch_one-s_head:
Thanks,
CraigO
90FJ1200
You are trying to over complicate the mod Mate.. For the spacers I used 4 S/S washers. Run a 180 PR2 rear. Clearance is good. except the plastic chain cover and a slight touch on the inner mud guard..
Once you slide the wheel in to place it will all look and be easy..
Richard
Hello guys, I've got a series of pics here http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo115/raywise_2008/FJ1200%20Wheel%20Change/ (http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo115/raywise_2008/FJ1200%20Wheel%20Change/) showing what I did to do the rear wheel mod. It works well, and the GSX-R wheel looks like it was made for the FJ.
Anyway, slightly older thread but thought it would help,
Hoo Roo
Ray :good2:
Ray,
Thanks for that. I am going to do the same mod on my 90 sometime this month. Your post could not have come at a better time.
Just a quick question. Where in the wheel pack did you place the washers? From the pics, I see them both on the brake caliper side, one inboard and one out. Is that correct?
Thanks again for the pics. Looks great!!!!
CraigO
90FJ1200
Hey there Craig.
Yep I used 4 s/steel washers, each 2mm thick. To get the chain aligned etc, I put 2 each side, between the caliper mount/swingarm, and the other side between hub/swingarm. Hope that makes sense. I also regeared the bike because the sprocket that comes off the GSX-Rs is in most cases way too low, so I went to the local Suzuki place and bought a 39T rear from memory. If I kept the original sprocket that came with the Suzuki wheel the FJ would have been screaming doing only 100kmr.
I did find a fantastic excel spreadsheet that lets you put in different sprocket ratios and it gives you speed/rpm ranges for your bike. Its on my computer here somewhere. Good luck with the wheel swap, if I can do it anyone can, :good2:
Ray
'92 FJ1200
Quote from: X-Ray on January 17, 2011, 02:33:32 AM
bought a 39T rear from memory.
Ray
'92 FJ1200
I count 38 in the pics you posted. It looked smaller, I just had to know! Good job on the focus and resolution.
You're right, I went back and counted, 38T!,
Thanks Doug :good2:
Hmmm,
I wonder why my FJ has a 40 tooth sprocket? I bought a 40 tooth to mount on my GSXR wheel as well. BTW, I show about 85mph at 5K. What are you reading at 5000RPM?
CraigO
90FJ1200
Quote from: craigo on January 18, 2011, 08:15:26 PM
What are you reading at 5000RPM?
The road ahead!
It will be a few months before I can answer the MPH question with my 18/38 setup. Winter and all you see. You warm weather people suck, in case you were too busy riding to notice.
Quote from: craigo on January 18, 2011, 08:15:26 PM
Hmmm,
I wonder why my FJ has a 40 tooth sprocket? I bought a 40 tooth to mount on my GSXR wheel as well. BTW, I show about 85mph at 5K. What are you reading at 5000RPM?
CraigO
90FJ1200
Craig..... according to the Gearing commander web site as listed in the files section (http://www.gearingcommander.com (http://www.gearingcommander.com)), 5000RPM makes 144KPH with 18/38 sprockets and 180x55/17 tyre.
Harvy
I use an 18/40 combination on mine, but with a 170/60 tyre. Haven't really taken much notice of speed at 5000RPM.
Bill.
Thanks Harv, thats the spreadsheet I was trying to find!
Quote from: X-Ray on January 19, 2011, 02:28:50 AM
Thanks Harv, thats the spreadsheet I was trying to find!
No worries Ray!
How did you fare through the floods mate?
Hope all is good for you.
Harvy
Yep, 84.5 MPH, that's about right. Thanks for the spreadsheet, Harvey.
Cheers,
CraigO
90FJ1200
Well I finally did it. I installed the Gixxer wheel on the old gal yesterday and got to take her for a little spin this morning. And WOW what difference. The bike is a whole lot less twitchy, feels really planted. As it's a brand new tire, I didn't take her thru the paces just yet. But I am amazed at how much better the ride is.
Now, dogbones, as my tire is way up in the air when on the centerstand. I am not sure how much ground clearance has been lost, but I am sure that hard parts are going to hit the pavement a lot sooner.
Oh, and another thing. What the hell to do w/ the old 16" wheel?????
Thanks to everyone that posted on this mod. It was pretty easy to do once you got all the parts together. So much so that I went from mock up to just installing it. Piece of cake!!!
Cheers,
CraigO
90FJ1200
Craigo said, "Oh, and another thing. What the hell to do w/ the old 16" wheel?? "
Do what most of us have done and put it in the corner, just in case :-)
For your dogbone length, you can put the bike on the centerstand on a level piece of floor, put a piece of wood underneath the rear tire (3/4" or so) and then remove your stock dogbones. Now measure the distance between the dogbone bolt centers. Make up some new dogbones with the holes that distance apart.
Note: Clamp the dogbone blanks together before drilling so the holes are exactly the same distance apart.
Cheers,
Arnie
Yep, as Arnie said, stick it in the corner. Only thing is mines sitting in the corner with a near new tyre on it, :dash2:
Glad it went well for you :good2:
Ok, guys, with all the expert modders out there, there has got to be something constructive to do with all these discarded wheels. Get them all together out on route 66 and make a tourist trap out of them. Hey, if they will come to look at half burried caddies and the worlds largest ball of string, they will come to see the tower of old FJ wheels. :wacko3:
CraigO
90FJ1200
Quote from: X-Ray on January 22, 2011, 07:45:40 PM
Yep, as Arnie said, stick it in the corner. Only thing is mines sitting in the corner with a near new tyre on it, :dash2:
X-Ray, Your option to keeping a wheel you'll likely never use with an almost new tire on it that's just going to dry up and rot..... :-( is to sell the tire cheap to someone who still has the 16" rear, but trade wheels. That way the wheel you'll never use, sitting in the corner of your shed will have an old worn tire on it and the buyer will have your original wheel with a nice almost new tire and not have to have it dis and re-mounted and re-balanced.
Cheers,
Arnie
Quote from: craigo on January 23, 2011, 08:00:53 AM
Ok, guys, with all the expert modders out there, there has got to be something constructive to do with all these discarded wheels. Get them all together out on route 66 and make a tourist trap out of them. Hey, if they will come to look at half burried caddies and the worlds largest ball of string, they will come to see the tower of old FJ wheels. :wacko3:
CraigO,
Yeah, OK. I'll sell you my old wheel (actually someone else's wheel that I traded and sold the tire to) for $5. You just have to pay the postage from here to CA or TX (or wherever) if you want it next to those buried Caddies.
Arnie
Hey Ray,
How much did you pay for the new chain rubbing block, and where did you get it? I noticed when I did my wheel change that mine was gone. Bike Bandit wants $165 for it. OUCH!!!!
CraigO
90FJ1200
Quote from: craigo on January 22, 2011, 03:31:12 PM
Well I finally did it. I installed the Gixxer wheel on the old gal yesterday
Oh, and another thing. What the hell to do w/ the old 16" wheel?????
CraigO
90FJ1200
these are your options:
send it to George B.
trade it for stuff at your local mc recyclers.
put it on ebay
remove the tire and take the wheel to the metal recycle place.
take removed tire to rally and if no one wants it start the campfire with it.
Quote from: Mark Olson on January 23, 2011, 01:29:31 PM
take removed tire to rally and if no one wants it start the campfire with it.
Really? I'm thinking leave it on the wheel and take it to the rally to keep the bugs in check-
Yamaha FJ1200 burnout competition Barre VT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRsjqUKFh94#)
Quote from: Mark Olson on January 23, 2011, 01:29:31 PM
Quote from: craigo on January 22, 2011, 03:31:12 PM
Well I finally did it. I installed the Gixxer wheel on the old gal yesterday
Oh, and another thing. What the hell to do w/ the old 16" wheel?????
CraigO
90FJ1200
these are your options:
send it to George B.
trade it for stuff at your local mc recyclers.
put it on ebay
remove the tire and take the wheel to the metal recycle place.
take removed tire to rally and if no one wants it start the campfire with it.
Hey Mark,
Thanks for the options, but I have to ask.
Who is George B?
I like the idea to trade it in on other parts.
If I sold it on Ebay, for any price, I would fall right over. Better a snowballs chance in hell
I don't see scraping it at the recycler.
Nor schlepping it to a rally.
Thanks for the options though.
CraigO
90FJ1200
Quote from: craigo on January 24, 2011, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: Mark Olson on January 23, 2011, 01:29:31 PM
Quote from: craigo on January 22, 2011, 03:31:12 PM
Well I finally did it. I installed the Gixxer wheel on the old gal yesterday
Oh, and another thing. What the hell to do w/ the old 16" wheel?????
CraigO
90FJ1200
these are your options:
send it to George B.
trade it for stuff at your local mc recyclers.
put it on ebay
remove the tire and take the wheel to the metal recycle place.
take removed tire to rally and if no one wants it start the campfire with it.
Hey Mark,
Thanks for the options, but I have to ask.
Who is George B?
I like the idea to trade it in on other parts.
If I sold it on Ebay, for any price, I would fall right over. Better a snowballs chance in hell
I don't see scraping it at the recycler.
Nor schlepping it to a rally.
Thanks for the options though.
CraigO
90FJ1200
There are some fj purists who believe the fj should be kept stock and not messed with.
George B. is one of these purists and has resurrected many an fj that would have gone to the scrap pile.
He is quite economical and can fix an fj with 50 cents and a gum wrapper at times.
part donations are always welcome and trades are possible. he has a 90 fj as well.
He does not hang out on this site however , but can be found on the yahoo fj site.
He lives a couple of blocks down the street from me.
Quote from: Mark Olson on January 24, 2011, 12:10:25 PM
Quote from: craigo on January 24, 2011, 11:40:49 AM
Quote from: Mark Olson on January 23, 2011, 01:29:31 PM
Quote from: craigo on January 22, 2011, 03:31:12 PM
Well I finally did it. I installed the Gixxer wheel on the old gal yesterday
Oh, and another thing. What the hell to do w/ the old 16" wheel?????
CraigO
90FJ1200
these are your options:
send it to George B.
trade it for stuff at your local mc recyclers.
put it on ebay
remove the tire and take the wheel to the metal recycle place.
take removed tire to rally and if no one wants it start the campfire with it.
Hey Mark,
Thanks for the options, but I have to ask.
Who is George B?
I like the idea to trade it in on other parts.
If I sold it on Ebay, for any price, I would fall right over. Better a snowballs chance in hell
I don't see scraping it at the recycler.
Nor schlepping it to a rally.
Thanks for the options though.
CraigO
90FJ1200
There are some fj purists who believe the fj should be kept stock and not messed with.
George B. is one of these purists and has resurrected many an fj that would have gone to the scrap pile.
He is quite economical and can fix an fj with 50 cents and a gum wrapper at times.
part donations are always welcome and trades are possible. he has a 90 fj as well.
He does not hang out on this site however , but can be found on the yahoo fj site.
He lives a couple of blocks down the street from me.
Do you have contact info for George? I have a pile of parts now from repairing Klavdy's old bike and am too lazy to sell. I need a rt side mirror for a '90 as well, so maybe we can make a deal?
Frank
Frank,
Got any pics of the old gal? I would love to see what you have done.
Cheers,
CraigO
90FJ1200
George (916) 925 3870
IIRC, good 'ole George is *considering* a 17" rear rim mod on his '90 (shudder) Proof yet again, that the earth has shifted on it's axis..
It seems as though George has (finally?) realized the wide range of inexpensive rubber he can fit on a 17" rim vs. the oem 150/80-16 donut.
Amazing, if you think about it.
Pat, He will never do it. He likes his bias ply tires to much :lol:
Dear post deleting moderator....
i dont say anything here i wouldnt say to ANYONE'S face.
yet you delete my post from the shadows without so much as a den mother finger wave...... real classy!
BTW i've known George B since 1999 AND he is a loser! period. I know his story and he is still a loser.
go ahead and delete this post too.... as long as that losers phone number is up on our forum you better keep your finger on the delete button......
Hey Frank, my bad, that was me. Sorry bro, it won't happen again. Just trying to keep a shit storm from happening, and folks from dog piling on you.
Looking back, of course you're right.... You are entitled to your opinion, and furthermore, entitled to express your opinion on this forum.
IMHO, We have so many other important things, interesting things, to discuss than 'ole George, but, fire away if you desire.
You are right. All forms of censorship are bad. If you say it, then 'ya gotta own it..........Sorry amigo! Fr. Paddy
everyone of the politically correct agenda can kiss my ass.... pile it on.
i dont choose to discuss george... but when someone posts his phone number on OUR forum i have to stand up and object.
tell us all why george doesnt post here ?
and why he didnt attend a WCR that was specifically moved closer to his house so he could attend ?
i remember him getting laid off from his job in 2000 and he said he would never take a job making less money than he was making before..... well guess the fuck what ?
here it is 11 years later and he still doesnt have a job and lives with his father (probably cause his mom wont let him move in with her)
oh yeah....the FJ..... the kindness of others is the only reason his motorcycle is even recognizable as one.
he is not my FJ brother even though he owns a FJ.
He is a LOSER! and i would say it to his lazy ass loser face.
PERIOD!
I seem to be on a offer-unsolicited-advice roll just now, so why stop now -eh?
Frank-
Let it go man. Toting around all that anger will do nothing but shorten and worsen your life. Shit get's heavy after a while...
On another note, I agree that posts should not be deleted, (what were you thinkin' Paddy?) I much prefer the self moderation this forum does a pretty good job of.
Dan
Dan,
let me just say that letting things go is exactly the reason why this country is in the shape its in... I'm perfectly happy with my life and my JOB....
however.....
if you cannot draw the line somewhere then you are incapable of drawing ANY line. I know what i believe in and i'm not ashamed to make a stand for my beliefs. I dont duck my head under the rug when challenged on them either.
there is an apathy party ....would you show up ?
Quote from: racerman_27410 on January 25, 2011, 09:48:41 PM
i dont choose to discuss george... but when someone posts his phone number on OUR forum i have to stand up and object.
Frank, why do you have to object? It's not your phone # being posted.
Quote from: racerman_27410 on January 25, 2011, 09:48:41 PM
...tell us all why george doesnt post here ?
I suspect that he doesn't want to...Why does it matter? Does George HAVE to post here?
Quote from: racerman_27410 on January 25, 2011, 09:48:41 PM
and why he didnt attend a WCR that was specifically moved closer to his house so he could attend ?
Again, I suspect that he didn't want to come to the WCR....So what? Why is this important to you? His freedom of decision, and his loss.
Quote from: racerman_27410 on January 25, 2011, 09:48:41 PM
i remember him getting laid off from his job in 2000 and he said he would never take a job making less money than he was making before..... well guess the fuck what ? ...here it is 11 years later and he still doesnt have a job and lives with his father (probably cause his mom wont let him move in with her)
Again, so what? Why is George's employment and living arrangement so important to you? Like a big fucking blip on your radar screen, why?
You can talk about your beliefs and drawing the line, and how important your beliefs are to you, but what about other people who don't have your beliefs?
I've never seen you like this Frank. You know deep down that Dan is spot on.
Having a long term, deep rooted resentment is like drinking poison....Hoping the other person dies.
I'll try once more, then let it go.
If you have distaste for people on the dole, then we share this. Vote Republican, run for office, organize grass-roots efforts designed to get people working, cry long and hard for suspension (not extension) of unemployment benefits -whatever.
Oh, and what Pat said...
Put the cross down.
Peace brother.
Dan
Paddy,
because my hard earned tax money goes to support the millions of people who choose to live their lives just like he does....and it pisses me off.
granted his unemployment benefits ran out years ago but his arrogance about EVERYTHING put him on my shit list forever.
i truely believe in my heart that if there was a way he could get back on the Gov. nipple he would be sucking like a baby faster than you can say cash for clunkers.
my parents raised me with a work ethic.... you want something?.... you work for it. (unless you happen to be independantly wealthy)
you can defend him all you want.... aint gonna change my mind.
i guess you would also defend the re writing of past history too ? like those concentration camps didnt REALLY happen in germany during WWII!
oh how about re writing all the classic novels with names changed to quiet the squeaky wheels whose feelings might get hurt ?
same same to me
Sorry for inadvertently lighting a firestorm with one little post. :dash2:
Kim
That God Damned Jug Eared, Bog Trotting , Desert Dwelling Tosspot deleted my fucking post too!
That's it, ya bearded weirdo, I ain't never spooning your bony, raggedy ass again.
I did not delete your post Klavdy, I just corrected your spelling. :flag_of_truce:
Once again, I got the message, if you guys want to cap on each other, I guess it's ok on this forum...
Now then...... About that GSXR Wheel...... got any pics?
I am recently afflicted with ModFJ-itis and I neeeeeed some pics!
:hi:
X-Ray posted these pics, which I found very helpful:
http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo115/raywise_2008/FJ1200%20Wheel%20Change/ (http://s367.photobucket.com/albums/oo115/raywise_2008/FJ1200%20Wheel%20Change/)
Main thing is that you want to get the whole wheel pack and brakes from the same bike. It goes together real easy.
Cheers,
CraigO
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 26, 2011, 10:44:32 AM
I did not delete your post Klavdy, I just corrected your spelling. :flag_of_truce:
Once again, I got the message, if you guys want to cap on each other, I guess it's ok on this forum...
If you think you're gunna get away with just an apology, you've got another thing coming, mister.
I want at least a nice dinner and some drinks, maybe a little dancing before I even CONSIDER spooning with you again.
Reminds me...Ya gotta shave your back ya big galoot.
Finally, A GSXR wheel swap thread that is entertaining, thanks guys. (popcorn)
I just bought a GSXR wheel too.. Just couldn't stand it anymore. Damn you guys. :good:
Quotea nice dinner and some drinks, maybe a little dancing before I even CONSIDER spooning with you again.
No kiss?
Well, maybe a just a little, but no tongue this time!
You will not be sorry....
CraigO
90FJ1200
Quote from: junkyardroad on January 26, 2011, 07:34:42 PM
Quotea nice dinner and some drinks, maybe a little dancing before I even CONSIDER spooning with you again.
No kiss?
"What's wrong with a kiss, boy? Hmm? Why not start her off with a nice kiss? You don't have to go leaping straight for the clitoris [spooning] like a bull at a gate. Give her [him] a kiss, boy."
Yes. Good. Nibbling the earlobe, uhh, kneading the buttocks, and so on and so forth. So, we have all these possibilities before we stampede towards the clitoris, Watson.
Quote from: craigo on January 23, 2011, 11:18:24 AM
Hey Ray,
How much did you pay for the new chain rubbing block, and where did you get it? I noticed when I did my wheel change that mine was gone. Bike Bandit wants $165 for it. OUCH!!!!
Sorry Craig, been away from the puter for a few days. I'm sure I only paid $65.00 for the rubbing block from the local Yammie place here. Theres also a Japanese guy I get some bits in from as well, VERY cheap and proper new parts too. My mate said Yam wanted $360.00 for a new GTS1000 mirror assembly, guy in Japan had one delivered to me for $170.00. Can't beat it!.
This is the site in Japan you can try http://jp-parts.com/ (http://jp-parts.com/) . Very good service, excellent pricing.
Quote from: X-Ray on January 27, 2011, 04:53:45 AM
Quote from: craigo on January 23, 2011, 11:18:24 AM
Hey Ray,
How much did you pay for the new chain rubbing block, and where did you get it? I noticed when I did my wheel change that mine was gone. Bike Bandit wants $165 for it. OUCH!!!!
Sorry Craig, been away from the puter for a few days. I'm sure I only paid $65.00 for the rubbing block from the local Yammie place here. Theres also a Japanese guy I get some bits in from as well, VERY cheap and proper new parts too. My mate said Yam wanted $360.00 for a new GTS1000 mirror assembly, guy in Japan had one delivered to me for $170.00. Can't beat it!.
This is the site in Japan you can try http://jp-parts.com/ (http://jp-parts.com/) . Very good service, excellent pricing.
Ray,
Thanks for the info. :i_am_so_happy:
CraigO
90FJ1200
No problems mate. I found the easiest way to get prices etc from JP-Parts was to get the actual Yam part number, fill in the quote order form, and they get back pretty quickly with price/delivery/availablity etc. :good2:
So Ray,
How you lovin that new rear wheel? I got to take my bike out for a 150 mile spin the other day and man, what a difference. Best thing I ever did to my FJ.
CraigO
90FJ1200
I wish I could get out more to really ride it. I still have the half worn tyre on the back that came with the rim, so should be even better when a nice new tyre goes on. What I did like was the rim had virtually the same spoke pattern, same colour, got lucky.
OK, as promised, here is the GSXR wheel mod instruction manual. Keep in mind that this is using a 1990 GSXR wheel installed on a 1990 FJ1200. I also have this in PDF format. Need a copy, PM me and I'll send it off to you
I want to thank everyone that provided information to make this manual possible. To many to mention, but you know who you are. :hi:
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3936/gsxrwheelmodpg1.jpg)
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/60/gsxrwheelmodpg2.jpg)
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2274/gsxrwheelmodpg3.jpg)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5626/gsxrwheelmodpg4.jpg)
Thanks,
CraigO
90FJ1200
Magnificent!
Take the pdf and stick it over in the files (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?board=24.0), easier yet.
Very cool Craig, this will help answer future questions. Thanks!
You are welcome. Amazing what you can do with Publisher, some pics and a little elbow grease. Now we hope to never see anyone ask about this again. As I know that you senior modders are getting tired of answering the same questions over and over again.
I am, however, grateful for all the info I got from you guys to do this mod and making the whole thing possible. A tip of the hat to all of you :hi:
Cheers,
CraigO
90FJ1200
CraigO
You've got too much time on your hands, Nicely done :good2:
Hey Craig,
The brake master cylinder - did that fit exactly where the original FJ one sits?
Bill.
I kept the FJ master on my wheel mod. The GSXR brake line bolted right up to it.
CraigO
90FJ1200
I've got to say Bill I'm fairly certain I just kept the original FJ rear master cylinder and connected the suzuki brake line to that. I'll have to check now. :wacko3:
Quote from: X-Ray on January 27, 2011, 08:07:03 PM
I've got to say Bill I'm fairly certain I just kept the original FJ rear master cylinder and connected the suzuki brake line to that. I'll have to check now. :wacko3:
Thats what I did...
I did the same, Ray, just wondering if Craig tried it with the Suzi one.
My rear brakes are a bit different, being top mounted. I got the brake gear from a Katana.
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd165/Ulysses-WA/FJ1200-17/No7.jpg)
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd165/Ulysses-WA/FJ1200-17/No5.jpg)
Quote from: billwest on January 28, 2011, 12:06:10 AM
I did the same, Ray, just wondering if Craig tried it with the Suzi one.
My rear brakes are a bit different, being top mounted. I got the brake gear from a Katana.
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd165/Ulysses-WA/FJ1200-17/No7.jpg)
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd165/Ulysses-WA/FJ1200-17/No5.jpg)
Hey Bill,
Is the wheel from a Katana? Did you have to spacer it in there as well? Did you use the FJ's brake arm or the Suzuki's? How about the brake line, FJ or Katana? :scratch_one-s_head:
Cheers,
CraigO
90FJ1200
Craig,
The caliper and torque arm are from a Katana. Wheel, caliper bracket, spacers from GSXR750/1100. Brake line is a SS one made for the original Yamaha rear brake, with one end modified to allow for the different angle of the point at which it attaches to the caliper. I used Suzi spacers either side of the wheel, as well as an extra washer each side.
I cut the Suzi torque arm shorter, drilled it, and attached it to the OEM torque arm point on the swingarm.
At various spot in his thread:
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2762.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=2762.0)
are part numbers I used, and a brief outline.
Bill.
i am converting mine soon (as soon as it gets a bit warmer outside!) and have the wheels and brakes from both gsxr and katana (gsxf, over here) and the using the katana brakes seems alot easier, have mocked them both up in spare swingarm and with the katana one i can use standard torque arm mount and the s/steel hose that is already one it, so thats the way i am going to do it.
Quote from: jwh on January 28, 2011, 11:34:34 AM
i am converting mine soon (as soon as it gets a bit warmer outside!) and have the wheels and brakes from both gsxr and katana (gsxf, over here) and the using the katana brakes seems alot easier, have mocked them both up in spare swingarm and with the katana one i can use standard torque arm mount and the s/steel hose that is already one it, so thats the way i am going to do it.
Right on, all roads lead to Rome, so they say :i_am_so_happy:
CraigO
90FJ1200
Quote from: craigo on January 27, 2011, 11:10:10 AM
OK, as promised, here is the GSXR wheel mod instruction manual. Keep in mind that this is using a 1990 GSXR wheel installed on a 1990 FJ1200. I also have this in PDF format. Need a copy, PM me and I'll send it off to you
I want to thank everyone that provided information to make this manual possible. To many to mention, but you know who you are. :hi:
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3936/gsxrwheelmodpg1.jpg)
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/60/gsxrwheelmodpg2.jpg)
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2274/gsxrwheelmodpg3.jpg)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5626/gsxrwheelmodpg4.jpg)
Thanks,
CraigO
90FJ1200
Just to be clear , isn't the gsxr wheel a 17" x 5" wheel not a 5.5" and can only take a 170?
There's more than one GSXR wheel.
Quote from: Mark Olson on January 28, 2011, 01:25:37 PM
Quote from: craigo on January 27, 2011, 11:10:10 AM
OK, as promised, here is the GSXR wheel mod instruction manual. Keep in mind that this is using a 1990 GSXR wheel installed on a 1990 FJ1200. I also have this in PDF format. Need a copy, PM me and I'll send it off to you
I want to thank everyone that provided information to make this manual possible. To many to mention, but you know who you are. :hi:
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3936/gsxrwheelmodpg1.jpg)
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/60/gsxrwheelmodpg2.jpg)
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2274/gsxrwheelmodpg3.jpg)
(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5626/gsxrwheelmodpg4.jpg)
Thanks,
CraigO
90FJ1200
Just to be clear , isn't the gsxr wheel a 17" x 5" wheel not a 5.5" and can only take a 170?
I hate to be the etiquette police, but is it really necessary to re-quote the entire post for a single line response? Try a simple reply.
DavidR.
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on January 28, 2011, 01:35:25 PM
I hate to be the etiquette police, but is it really necessary to re-quote the entire post for a single line response? Try a simple reply.
DavidR.
David, is the fact that you didn't delete the long file yourself Irony or Sarcasm?
Scarcasm, I thought it would be obvious.
Just trying to make an example.
Kind of like trying to get my wife and kids to turn out unnecessary lights around the house.
DavidR.
To answer the question, I used a 1990 GSXR wheel. In 1990, the GSXR came with a 5.5" wheel that can hold a 80/55-17 tire.
Hope this helps,
CraigO
90FJ1200
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on January 28, 2011, 02:19:59 PM
Scarcasm, I thought it would be obvious.
Just trying to make an example.
Kind of like trying to get my wife and kids to turn out unnecessary lights around the house.
DavidR.
Does it work with them? Have they started turning off the lights? :nea:
All in good fun,
CraigO
90FJ1200
Wow, an 80/55x17? That's pretty skinny! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Oh, a 180? Never mind ...
I yield the balance of my time to Klavdy :bomb:
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on January 28, 2011, 02:19:59 PM
Scarcasm, I thought it would be obvious.
Just trying to make an example.
Kind of like trying to get my wife and kids to turn out unnecessary lights around the house.
DavidR.
Have you tried turning the light switches upside down?
That's a brillant solution!!!
I'll have to give it a try. :-)
I knew you were good for something.
DavidR.
damn, screw 1 sheep and your marked for life........ :dash2:
CraigO
Quote from: craigo on January 28, 2011, 07:30:42 PM
damn, screw 1 sheep and your marked for life........ :dash2:
CraigO
I won't pretend to know what you're talking about, but in the interest of being helpful, maybe it was the wrong sheep. Like the song says-Dirty Deeds, done with sheep.
Thats actually what the New Zealanders sing to that ACDC song Doug, :pardon:
Shhhh, I didn't say that.
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on January 28, 2011, 02:19:59 PM
Scarcasm, I thought it would be obvious.
Just trying to make an example.
Kind of like trying to get my wife and kids to turn out unnecessary lights around the house.
DavidR.
David,
thanks for the sarcasm, I was just being lazy with the reply. :morning1:
for your house lights you should put in motion sensor light switches. they will turn off lights by themselves when the room is empty.
Unless you put them in your bathroom, then they shut off the lights while you're in the shower, with shampoo in your eyes...DAMHIK
no problems on my 84 with gsxr 4.5" and that same tyre (popcorn)