My Streetfighter project has officially kicked off. Initially all 3 FJ's will be involved with engine and head swaps. :scratch_one-s_head:
Casper has the damaged engine that needs repaired and rebuilt. That engine will end up in the Streetfighter. The 1297cc engine has been removed and the head is off. The head from the 1995 has the fresh rebuild with oversize valves. That head will be removed and installed on the 1297cc engine, which will then be put into Casper. The stock head that was pulled from the 1297cc engine will go on the 1995 engine. :wacko1: :wacko2:
Parts have been ordered have have already started to be delivered.
Fred
Which one gets the "Turbo Encabulator"?
Lots of burned oil on those pistons...Now would be a perfect time to fix those leaky oil rings or throw those POS Hank Scott pistons away....
Far away....
Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 03, 2021, 11:15:25 PM
Lots of burned oil on those pistons...Now would be a perfect time to fix those leaky oil rings or throw those POS Hank Scott pistons away....
Far away....
I noticed that too, Father Pat knows of what he speaks. Pat, as I recall didn't you have a similar problem with rings that didn't seat? Now would be the time to address the issue since it's out of the bike and apart.
I have the same problem with my 1350. Oil consumption. From day one and Still. Until I get some of my other projects done it will have to stay that way. At least it will always have fresh oil. Lol
Looking good Fred!! Have fun!
Quote from: Dads_FJ on August 04, 2021, 08:07:24 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 03, 2021, 11:15:25 PM
Lots of burned oil on those pistons...Now would be a perfect time to fix those leaky oil rings or throw those POS Hank Scott pistons away....
Far away....
I noticed that too, Father Pat knows of what he speaks. Pat, as I recall didn't you have a similar problem with rings that didn't seat? Now would be the time to address the issue since it's out of the bike and apart.
Yes, it was a hard lesson for me ($$$)
The tension on the Hank Scott piston oil ring was too light and thus allowing oil to be pulled up into the combustion chamber during closed throttle deceleration.
A brand new engine burning 1 quart of oil every 800 miles was unacceptable.
The Hank Scott Pro Lite short skirt pistons might be fine for racing, but they (literally) suck on the street.
My current 83mm Ross pistons work great.....
Dan, Ross makes a 82mm you can use, Fred, Ross makes a 80.5mm piston you can use.
https://andrewsmotorsports.mybigcommerce.com/brands/Ross-Racing-Products.html
A bit more progress. Removal of the rear subframe. I never realized how heavy it was. Waiting on the new rear subframe hoop and other parts to continue. Cleaned up the new wheel a bit.
Fred
Awesome to see this project going!
Can't wait to see your version of a fightered FJ. Are those cigar boxes you are using for parts organization?!
Quote from: aviationfred on August 02, 2021, 11:13:38 PM
My Streetfighter project has officially kicked off. Initially all 3 FJ's will be involved with engine and head swaps. :scratch_one-s_head:
........
Fred
Great to stuff Fred, an excellent collection of desirable bits to work with and nice to see you in a secure garage with not one, but two lift tables and what appears to be a well kitted out workshop
and three FJ builds on the go....FJ heaven! After being dealt a few bad hands in recent times you deserve this.
Unlike restorations, Streetfighter's are a product of the imagination, it'll be interesting to see what yours can come up with. As you know, Stuart Monk has one on the go as well at the moment.
We've had fighters brought to the forum before but I don't believe we've had a live build, keep the progress reports rolling.
The cam chain caught my eye, why don't you drop it into the case when you remove the cams so it's out of the way for the duration?
Noel
Wiating on engine parts... hopefully they will show up tomorrow..
A small bit of work on the Streetfighter today.. The auxiliary lights came in and mocked up. The Blue Angel Eyes will be tied to the low beam and the White light will be tied to the High Beam.
Fred
Today was head swap day. Removal of the oversize valve head that is on the 1995 FJ, too be used on the 1300 engine. Head gaskets and other parts arrived from RPM. The removal was a breeze with no hiccups. The install of the stock head from the stolen bike was just as easy. I absolutely love the YAMAHA timing mark system. TDC with the rotor and get the cam dots lined up with the #3 cam caps and everything is set. Checked valve clearances and only 3 valves needed adjusting.
When the stolen FJ was recovered, the exhaust mid pipe and RPM muffler were missing. I was informed that RPM has a couple of spare mufflers and mid pipes. The new mid pipe and muffler arrived with the head gaskets. I really didn't want to contact Hindle directly for a mid pipe and muffler. I did confirm that the 'Y' pipe can be flipped over and a left side exhaust can be done. :rofl2: :yahoo: But this will mean that I will have to buy the head pipes / Y pipe from Hindle and a custom fabricated mid pipe will need to be made by a local muffler shop for the high mount muffler.
Fred
The LED headlight bulbs came in for the Streetfighter dual pod light. Photos are of the Halogen low beam and LED low beam. The last photo is with the LED high beam and Auxiliary main lights.
Fred
Left side exhaust ... I see what's happening here! :good2:
Quote from: fj1289 on August 07, 2021, 08:49:08 AM
Left side exhaust ... I see what's happening here! :good2:
I'm lost, why Left exhaust?
I've got a left side exhaust. :biggrin:
Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 07, 2021, 09:31:50 AM
Quote from: fj1289 on August 07, 2021, 08:49:08 AM
Left side exhaust ... I see what's happening here! :good2:
I'm lost, why Left exhaust?
A wheel like this will be installed..... maybe not initially, but down the road a bit.
Fred
Another mock up.... held together with zip ties.
I am going to use a FJ09/Tracer double bubble windscreen as a Bug Screen. Tested the Plasti-Dip to see if masking for stripes would pull the base coat.
Fred
I like the double bubble. Fred. Looks good.
Quote from: aviationfred on August 07, 2021, 05:56:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 07, 2021, 09:31:50 AM
Quote from: fj1289 on August 07, 2021, 08:49:08 AM
Left side exhaust ... I see what's happening here! :good2:
I'm lost, why Left exhaust?
A wheel like this will be installed..... maybe not initially, but down the road a bit.
Fred
Pat must have forgotten about the parts VFR purchased earlier ... with its single sided swing arm
The broken engine in Casper has been removed. Started to install the cams in the 1300 engine. There is an issue.... :mad: :ireful: The crankshaft will only rotate about 1/2 a revolution. I will investigate tomorrow.
On a higher note. I rode the 95 home from the garage and it runs great.
Fred
Maybe the engine cyl 1 is not set on TDC at the compression stroke but on the exhaust stroke when installed camchafts ? you can feel when compression stroke is by holding a finger over the plughole
Forget my comment above thinking it over it is not possible to check that before cams are installed :Facepalm: maybe the camchain has jumped on the crank
Quote from: aviationfred on August 08, 2021, 02:43:33 AM
The broken engine in Casper has been removed. Started to install the cams in the 1300 engine. There is an issue.... :mad: :ireful: The crankshaft will only rotate about 1/2 a revolution. I will investigate tomorrow.
On a higher note. I rode the 95 home from the garage and it runs great.
Fred
Fred - I've had this happen a time or two. Most likely the cam chain has doubled back over itself for a link and is jamming the crankshaft. Try rocking the crankshaft gently back and forth while pulling out on the cam chain and see if it frees up.
I typically hang the cam chain on a large breaker bar laying across the the cylinder head. Although it seems like you could turn the crank shaft with the chain suspended like that - there is still enough slack it will randomly "ball up" on you and lock up the crankshaft.
Quote from: fj1289 on August 08, 2021, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on August 08, 2021, 02:43:33 AM
The broken engine in Casper has been removed. Started to install the cams in the 1300 engine. There is an issue.... :mad: :ireful: The crankshaft will only rotate about 1/2 a revolution. I will investigate tomorrow.
On a higher note. I rode the 95 home from the garage and it runs great.
Fred
Fred - I've had this happen a time or two. Most likely the cam chain has doubled back over itself for a link and is jamming the crankshaft. Try rocking the crankshaft gently back and forth while pulling out on the cam chain and see if it frees up.
I typically hang the cam chain on a large breaker bar laying across the the cylinder head. Although it seems like you could turn the crank shaft with the chain suspended like that - there is still enough slack it will randomly "ball up" on you and lock up the crankshaft.
I figured out the problem.... with the 1297cc engine, I remembered with the base gasket and head gasket, that one was specific to ther 1297cc kit. I remembered wrong, :unknown: thinking it was the base gasket. It needs the 80.5mm head gasket. Andrew's Motorsports will be called in the morning for a new 80.5mm head gasket.
Fred
Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 07, 2021, 09:31:50 AM
Quote from: fj1289 on August 07, 2021, 08:49:08 AM
Left side exhaust ... I see what's happening here! :good2:
I'm lost, why Left exhaust?
My left side exhaust. :wacko2:
More fun with the Plasti-Dip .... :music:
I am currently on hold due to waiting for parts to be delivered. The fender can be painted, but can not be installed or removed without first removing the front wheel and one fork leg. The spare Carbon Fiber fender comes into play. Normally, I would never consider painting a Carbon Fiber body part. Plasti-Dip is the solution.
Fred
Front fender for the 89 was red when I got it. I plasti-dipped it. That was a million year's ago. It's finally getting to where I need to redip it. Was my first attempt at dipping.
Still waiting on the GSX-R1000 upper triple clamp for the Superbike handlebar conversion, and the rear subframe hoop. I did receive the correct head gasket for the 1297cc engine. Installed the head and cams. I set the timing and will check the valve clearances tomorrow.
I can't wait to get this engine in Casper :gamer: :yahoo: ..... I should be able to get a months worth of riding in and work out any bugs before the 1000 mile ride to the Vintage Yamaha Rally in September.
Fred
Made some headway today. I got the needed valve shims from Sean Morley of Morley's Muscle. The Vmax version of Randy and RPM. While there, I was introduced to his welder. We brought the broken engine with us. All of 10 minutes was that it took to weld a repair. Got back to the garage to finish. Drilled, tapped and filed the repair. The engine will now be put aside and wait until the Streetfighter frame gets powder coated.
Fred
Quote from: aviationfred on August 17, 2021, 03:26:01 AM
Made some headway today. I got the needed valve shims from Sean Morley of Morley's Muscle. The Vmax version of Randy and RPM. While there, I was introduced to his welder. We brought the broken engine with us. All of 10 minutes was that it took to weld a repair. Got back to the garage to finish. Drilled, tapped and filed the repair. The engine will now be put aside and wait until the Streetfighter frame gets powder coated.
Fred
There is one thing you need to know. Welded aluminum is not as strong as it was in original form, so your torque will be less with that bolt.
Not perfectly adjusted yet.... but here is the rear fender and tag holder for the Streetfighter. A license plate frame with a built in LED strip for the tag light is on it's way.
And Casper is alive with the transplanted 1297cc engine and the oversize valve head donated by the 95 FJ. :yahoo: :good2: :gamer:
Start up video
https://youtu.be/JaICfwQdNFw
Fred
Casper is completely back together. Now the focus can be on the Streetfighter.
Video with a 5th gear roll on...60mph to about 110mph
https://youtu.be/bHAx7q5G2bQ
Fred
Working on graphics for the Streetfighter with Jeff Shaw.
Fred
I've always liked the "AHAMAY" decals lol
Maybe SFJ1200?
The graphics are done and shipped.
Fred
Received the tag frame with LED tag lights integrated. I went to the tag office and turned all the paperwork in for a new Title and registration. Went with a personalized tag. The total fees were $120.00.
The Billet upper triple clamp needed a bit of trimming to mount the FZ750 ignition switch. The 1st frame item to be cut off is the OEM shock adjustment support. The fuel tank is on for general ideas on where the new subframe will be welded on and where bends will need to be.
Fred
Using my Airhawk as a seat template.... a rough idea on the seat positioning and the rough cut tail cowling.
Fred
Looking good!
This build is relevant to my interests. I bought an FJ09 earlier this year and my FJ1200 is wrapped in plastic at the moment. When I have time I'm going to rebuild the old bike into a streetfighter myself. Call it an MT-13 and try to use a similar paint scheme as an MT-10.
I have not posted any progress in awhile.
Today I fabricated a frame for the Bug Screen. I have it tack welded in place and mounted the Bug Screen. I used a FJ-09 Double Bubble windscreen. This gives me the option to try some different sizes and shapes.
Next up will be fabricating the rear subframe and gas tank mount.
Fred
Working on getting the sub-frame sorted to be welded.
The Tail light, Brake light and turn signals are mounted in the sub-frame.
Fred
Delicious wheel color
I cut and bent the tube along the fuel tank and made aft supports. They got Tig welded today. :yahoo:
Now I can move forward on getting a seat made and electrical component location.
Fred
A couple of mock up photos.
Fred
A small amount of progress.... fabricated the mount for the Speedometer/Tachometer unit. Thanks goes to Bob Weymouth for the gear position switch. After much searching for front turn signals that I thought would look good, I found some and they are mounted.
Fred
Nobody's gonna be able to say they didn't see you coming Fred.
I approve of your front light set up :good:
It has been awhile since I have done anything with the project.
I actually worked on my Streetfighter project today. Working on the rear subframe, the inner fender rear brace for the fuel tank, and tail cowling. I had to cut the rear subframe to make an adjustment. The welding will be done on Friday.
Fred
Instead of using Renntec crash bars for engine protection. I will be using Carbon Fiber case savers. These have a Steel plate embedded in the carbon fiber layers.
https://shop.carbonadi.de/product_info.php?info=p206_KIT-3x-YAMAHA-XJR1200-XJR1300-1995-2016-CLUTSH-PICKUP-CRANKSHAFT.html&XTCsid=83d5f3b92d91167a51cd48bde1c4719f
I will also be installing Dunlop Mutant tires.
Fred
Awesome work Fred! Like the choice of tires too.
Interesting work i also want to make a streetfighter .But first i have to find a new home that has a big garage so i can fix on my car and motorcycles.
A little more progress on the Streetfighter. Installed some rivnuts and got the rear pan/fender mounted. Fabricated brackets for the battery and mounted the ignitor box/ECU. The rear fuel tank support is now welded.
Fred
I wasn't completely sold on the FJ-09 windscreen. I decided to go another direction with an all in one mini fairing. I think with some trimming of the plastic, I can get it positioned better
I like the smaller windscreen/fairing combo. I think the FJ-09 windscreen would work if you removed about half the height on it - more flyscreen than windscreen.
That looks sinister.
All stripped and ready for the final (hopefully) welding appointment on Wednesday. Then the forks and swingarm will be removed. The frame and swingarm will get painted Black. I have picked out the colors for the bike itself. The main color will be Kawasaki metallic Blue with a 4" wide stripe down the center of the tank and tail cowling and air scoops being a Honda metallic White. The wheels and some Graphics will be done in Hi-viz yellow. The wheels pictured are an example and not mine.
Fred
Since the welding won't be done until Wednesday. I decided to start working on the mounts for the Headlight Assy. and Air Scoops. The photos of the Ducati is how the paint will look with the Air Scoops being White. I found some stamped aluminum that I think is a good candidate for the open area where the Air Filters will be.
Fred
Continuing on my Streetfighter project. The welding was done on Wednesday. Cleaned all the surface rust from the rear subframe and got a coat of primer on before I was called into work. The tires were delivered.
I spoke with the welder about doing a custom 4-2 High-mount exhaust. I found serrated exhaust pies and a pair of Dual Stubby exhaust cans. The cans will be mounted just below the rear cowling.
Fred
Fred - will you lose the serrated look when they get welded? Can he tig from the inside maybe? If you want the "lobster look" it might be cheaper to purchase a bunch of plain pie cuts - although it looks like the serrated ones would be easier to mock up, mark, and take to the welder. Those are cool - haven't come across those yet.
Quote from: fj1289 on July 08, 2023, 08:41:26 AM
Fred - will you lose the serrated look when they get welded? Can he tig from the inside maybe? If you want the "lobster look" it might be cheaper to purchase a bunch of plain pie cuts - although it looks like the serrated ones would be easier to mock up, mark, and take to the welder. Those are cool - haven't come across those yet.
Yes, a regular weld bead will take away the serrated seam. They are expensive, but I will be able to easily get the bends that I want.
The project is on a short pause for this weekends Pikes Peak Run. The front end has been removed and the main frame is ready to be prepped for paint. Casper was on the lift having a going over for the ride out to Colorado.
Fred
The frame has been painted and the wheels have been sent off to be powder coated.
The trimmed tail cowling was a bit too wide at the front. An angled section removal and hot staples did the trick.
Since this is a true solo seat bike, I cut the footpeg brackets. They will not be symmetrical due to the rear master cylinder mounting on the right side.
The round Hi-viz blank is color that the wheels will be.
Fred
Looks like you've got the bit between your teeth now Fred. Great to see :good2:
The engine and swingarm are installed. Working on alot of small items. A few months ago my brother brought his 89 FJ from Florida for me to work on. I installed a 4-1 exhaust and I kept the OEM exhaust. I have begun the process of removing 35 years of road grime and the OEM paint to expose the stainless tubing..The Tail cowling was filled, trimmed, fitted and mounted.
I also did a test on painting a 2 tone pattern.
Hopefully my wheels will be done today.
Fred
Last picture looks like you are assembling a transformer!
Awesome progress!
Whoo Hoo the Wheels are done...... Now that I will be able to roll it around.... it will be going to the upholstery shop to get a seat made.
Teaser wheel photo.
Fred
It is starting to look like a Motorcycle finally. Still a lot of work to be done. The 3 big items are
1: A seat needs to be made from scratch.
1a: Once the bike is back from the upholstery shop, the bodywork can be painted.
2: The exhaust needs to be fabicated/welded
3: The wiring harness needs to be made.
Fred
Any plans for a hugger?
Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 17, 2023, 02:43:09 PM
Any plans for a hugger?
Pat,
No plans for a Hugger. I am using this Vertical Mud Guard/License plate holder. The Tag Frame has a built in Tag Light
Fred
I went with the EK 530 Z3D chain.
Fred
For this build, I wanted a different look and decided against the Renntec engine guards. I found Carbon Fiber Case Savers. They are made in Germany and use Steel inserts embedded in the Carbon Fiber to protect the Aluminum parts. The covers are listed for the XJR1300 on the website. www.carbonadi.de (http://www.carbonadi.de) .
I originally discovered these covers on eBay for my VFR's. From the website, they DO NOT ship to the United States. I had to have them shipped to a friend in England, then have it shipped to the US. The 1st photo is from their brochure.
Fred
I took the Build to Morley's Muscle and Ryan Ashby helped fabricate the exhaust mid pipes. They are just tacked welded together. They will be finished at the end of the week. I think they look awesome for a couple of amateurs.
Fred
Moving along while the exhaust is being welded.
Working with parts received from fellow FJ owners. The lower cowling from Craig Ovadia and decals from Jeff Shaw.
Fred
Quote from: aviationfred on September 05, 2023, 04:56:02 AM
Moving along while the exhaust is being welded.
Working with parts received from fellow FJ owners. The lower cowling from Craig Ovadia and decals from Jeff Shaw.
Fred
I'd have gone with 1188, sounds more impressive then 1200............ If you know what I mean
I went to 3 different upholstery shops and left without a warm fuzzy from any of them :unknown: :sorry:. I decided to attempt making a seat myself.
I found a material called Kydex that came in sheet form that can be molded into shap with a heat gun. 4' x 6' x 1/16" sheet for $25.00
Kydex cut to shape, the use of a heat gun, some fiber glass, foam and Marine grade vinyl and I think I have a usable seat.
Fred
The painting is now complete. :dance2:
Now the real fun begins. Building a new, custom wire harness.
Fred
Hey Fred. I'm terrible at wiring. Any and all details are appreciated.
Awesome build Fred.
Quote from: giantkiller on September 15, 2023, 10:42:32 AM
Hey Fred. I'm terrible at wiring. Any and all details are appreciated.
Awesome build Fred.
The best advise that I have for wiring is to get one of these 4 page diagrams.
This one for your 86
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144481513624?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=N0bsJfTFTEO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=mGn5YeY-QK2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY (https://www.ebay.com/itm/144481513624?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=N0bsJfTFTEO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=mGn5YeY-QK2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)
This one for your 89
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144482695399?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=N0bsJfTFTEO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=mGn5YeY-QK2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY (https://www.ebay.com/itm/144482695399?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=N0bsJfTFTEO&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=mGn5YeY-QK2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)
They are much easier to read than the single page diagrams in the Haynes manual.
Fred
The bikes are loaded and ready for the Vintage Yamaha Rally.
I will be making a stop in Arkansas to Visit Craig Ovadia. An additional bike will be added to the trailer. I purchased this and Craig picked it up for me.
The little Honda has sentimental value. I had a 1986 Interceptor 500 as my very 1st street bike when I was 19. I bought it at the same dealership that Pat Conlon bought his 84 FJ1100 2 years earlier.
Fred
I have not had the chance to do much on the Streetfighter since September. It was a Great hit at the Vintage Yamaha Rally. Even in it's non-running state.
The high mount exhaust has not given the look that I had envisioned. I have decided to do a low, stubby exhaust instead. The photos are just a mock up using the current mufflers and a set of KO mufflers that will probably be used.
Fred
The low setup looks better by a lot...much neater.
I actually prefer the look of the low black silencers to the ko ones
Quote from: Urx on December 28, 2023, 01:54:27 AM
The low setup looks better by a lot...much neater.
I actually prefer the look of the low black silencers to the ko ones
Same here. Black one. Awesome job Fred. The first thing I thought looking at the picture of the bike was the exhaust has to go. Scroll down and you already fixed it.
Add another vote, for the low black mufflers!
I like the black mufflers too .... BUT either choice would still really show off the single sided swing arm conversion in the future .....!
And the wire harness build has begun. Looks like the Really inexpensive all encompassing Speedometer/Tachometer unit will not work.
I have found a TFT style unit that I will attempt to install.
Fred
Quote from: aviationfred on January 09, 2024, 02:12:21 AM
And the wire harness build has begun. Looks like the Really inexpensive all encompassing Speedometer/Tachometer unit will not work.
I have found a TFT style unit that I will attempt to install.
Fred
Hey Fred I really like the one at the bottom do you have a link
Quote from: giantkiller on January 09, 2024, 03:35:29 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on January 09, 2024, 02:12:21 AM
And the wire harness build has begun. Looks like the Really inexpensive all encompassing Speedometer/Tachometer unit will not work.
I have found a TFT style unit that I will attempt to install.
Fred
Hey Fred I really like the one at the bottom do you have a link
Here is the link Dan.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/166031933037?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=zh24b2nRRPW&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=mGn5YeY-QK2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY (https://www.ebay.com/itm/166031933037?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=zh24b2nRRPW&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=mGn5YeY-QK2&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY)
I have decided not to go the cheap/inexpensive route on the Streetfighter 1200 instrumentation. I am going with the High Quality Koso RX4 TFT Meter.
As my friend Roger likes to say, "If you buy quality parts, you only Cry Once."
https://kosonorthamerica.com/product/rx-4-multifunction-meter-universal/ (https://kosonorthamerica.com/product/rx-4-multifunction-meter-universal/)
Fred
Since the modern Multifunction Display will have gear selection indication. I figured it would be prudent to remove the Neutral switch and add a gear position switch.
Fred
Fred, does the indicator in the dash work off a discrete signal per gear - i.e. this pin grounded = 1st, next pin grounded = 2nd, etc? Or does it go off different resistances per gear?
I think Randy's setup is the first, while most factory bikes are the second. I haven't thought all the way through how to get Randy's switch to act like the second way - seems you would have to run 5 volt or 12 volt power through it BUT the shift drum would be grounded to the engine cases?
I bought the gear position setup from RPM when it came back in stock, but trying to figure out how to make it work with my electronics - - hopefully your setup is straight forward. I'm thinking mine will require some type of analog to digital converter, or a bank of miniaturized relays and various resistors?
Quote from: fj1289 on January 18, 2024, 10:26:58 PM
Fred, does the indicator in the dash work off a discrete signal per gear - i.e. this pin grounded = 1st, next pin grounded = 2nd, etc? Or does it go off different resistances per gear?
I think Randy's setup is the first, while most factory bikes are the second. I haven't thought all the way through how to get Randy's switch to act like the second way - seems you would have to run 5 volt or 12 volt power through it BUT the shift drum would be grounded to the engine cases?
I bought the gear position setup from RPM when it came back in stock, but trying to figure out how to make it work with my electronics - - hopefully your setup is straight forward. I'm thinking mine will require some type of analog to digital converter, or a bank of miniaturized relays and various resistors?
I will let you know when I get the bike powered up.
Fred
Some more progress and yet another instrument change... since I decided to go with a quality Guage package. I am finding that many others have the same idea and the Koso TFT Multifunction Meter's are very popular and are out of stock through most distributors.
Robert at RPM has come through and I have a Koso MS-01 on order. It is much more like the simple round design of the cheap Chinese version that I started with..
The wire harness is coming together nicely. I have the original wire harness plus a 2nd wire harness that I am hacking apart so that ALL of the wires stay the exact color code.
Fred
And I give you POWER..... the majority of the wire harness build is complete. Waiting on the Multifunction Meter. The 4 page wiring diagram is a game changer.
Fred
Nice! Always good when you can let the light out and keep the smoke in!
What lift are you using? Is this one of the older Harbor Freight units?
Quote from: fj1289 on January 28, 2024, 12:50:25 PM
Nice! Always good when you can let the light out and keep the smoke in!
What lift are you using? Is this one of the older Harbor Freight units?
Yes, the Streetfighter is on a Harbor Freight lift.
In the photo below, the VFR800 is on the Harbor Freight lift and the FJ1200 is on a Handy pneumatic lift.
Fred
I'd like to add a lift to the garage this year. Reading about the HF lift - it seems it has been changed in design and is not nearly as sturdy as the older models. Is the pneumatic worth the added money over hydraulic?
Quote from: fj1289 on January 29, 2024, 07:54:25 PM
I'd like to add a lift to the garage this year. Reading about the HF lift - it seems it has been changed in design and is not nearly as sturdy as the older models. Is the pneumatic worth the added money over hydraulic?
For me..... $450.00 for the Harbor Freight lift versus almost $2000.00 for the Handy lift..... is a no brainer.... Harbor Freight for the win.
Fred
That's the way I am leaning too!
The Koso MS-01 Multifunction Meter was delivered from RPM yesterday. And was promptly installed. A few systems require the engine to be running to program or set. Here is a short video of the initial start up. Notice the Speed and mileage is in kph and temp is in °C. I got into the menus and changed it all to the proper settings. Click on the YouTube link below to see the gauge power up
https://youtube.com/shorts/5Agvj_9cUww?si=kRYRAeOaLrjAxzR8
Fred
This evening was spent making the wires disappear
The wiring for a Streetfighter or Cafe style conversion can be tricky and difficult to hide. I decided to do a disguise/blend in approach.
Fred
I've just had a couple of relays delivered, my original loom had had several wires replaced and some of the remaining had overheated at some point. I'm hoping wiring the headlight and coils will take most of the load off the ageing wiring loom.
Quote from: joebloggs on March 08, 2024, 11:55:29 PMI've just had a couple of relays delivered, my original loom had had several wires replaced and some of the remaining had overheated at some point. I'm hoping wiring the headlight and coils will take most of the load off the ageing wiring loom.
Joe, for the headlamp I recommend doing the relay mod. The original wires get used for the low amperage part that actuates the relay. Then use proper size wires between the battery and relay for full power to the headlamp connector. Assuming you have not already considered this option.
Quote from: fj1289 on January 31, 2024, 10:48:54 AMThat's the way I am leaning too!
We each have different budgets and priorities, but I've owned both, and while $2000 for a lift is just stupid, the Handy is one of those cry once, lifetime purchases for me. Also, being able to raise it so high makes it a "handy" work table for other projects too, which actually maximizes limited space in the garage. Just my $.02, but I have no regrets spending the money on my Handy.
Quote from: FJmonkey on March 09, 2024, 07:01:03 PMQuote from: joebloggs on March 08, 2024, 11:55:29 PMI've just had a couple of relays delivered, my original loom had had several wires replaced and some of the remaining had overheated at some point. I'm hoping wiring the headlight and coils will take most of the load off the ageing wiring loom.
Joe, for the headlamp I recommend doing the relay mod. The original wires get used for the low amperage part that actuates the relay. Then use proper size wires between the battery and relay for full power to the headlamp connector. Assuming you have not already considered this option.
Yes, thought about using relays to anything that draws a high current, may even put one in for the fuel pump, there's plenty of space and the less risk of an overload the better.
Thanks
The final push has been frustratingly slow. Trying to get the Beasty to fire up. I ended up needing a new starter. The old one would just barely spin the motor. Once the new starter was installed. The bike fired up with minimal coaxing.
Video of the bike running for the 1st time since I got it back from being stolen.
https://youtu.be/8kwCX_Bs5lY?si=jIBKLC94XSdqdOzr
Fred
That's awesome Fred.
Excellent! Didn't realize you hadn't had it running since the recovery. Time for some kookaloo!
The 1st ride of the Streetfighter 1200 did not go as planned
An eventful morning. I spent all night working on the finishing touches on the Streetfighter. 4:30am I decide to do a 1st ride video. I had to ride to my house and swap helmets. I didn't make it. I had noted that the suspension was way too hard and would need to be sorted. I slowed down as approached a set of railroad tracks. I crossed the tracks and as the road leveled out, I accelerated. The bike had an unexpected full steering lock to the left. I was slammed to the ground. There was other traffic and they stopped to offer assistance. An Ambulance ride to the hospital and I have.... 5 broken ribs, left backside. A contusion to my left lung, a large hematoma on my left hip and some minor roads rash on my left knee.
Fred
Sorry to hear that Fred. I hope your healed up and back riding soon.
I was slammed the same way when I highsided my 1100 a couple years ago. I still have a separated clavicle on the left side but it doesn't affect the use of my arm or shoulder. The broken ribs healed up pretty quickly and feel perfectly fine now.
Good luck
OH SHIT! Heal up fast Fred! When they say a project is never finished - this is NOT how that's meant!
Again - best wishes for a full and speedy recovery
More photos
Fred
Well shit :Facepalm: Fred, I'm glad you're ok, no head injuries. I know all about broken ribs. Heal up amigo!
Wow Fred! I am glad you are alright.
Good to see you had luck in the bad luck.Broken ribs.. try not to laugh is my best advice.
Wow bad news! Heal up soon.
Sorry to hear about your off, glad you're OK
Why is it falling at low speed always seems to more damage to both rider and bike.
I have been working on the Streetfighter for the last 4 months while recovering/healing from the accident. I have also been riding as much as I can. The bike is now officially in the riding stage. Hopefully there won't be too many bugs to work out. I was able to ride it to work. I have about 40 miles on it.
Fred
I see a steering dampener added... needed?
We have other GSXR front ends out here that don't have them.
Maybe Fred added it after the first ride - I'm pretty sure he deliberately changed the steering geometry with the changes he made to the bike and felt that was a major contributor to the first ride crash.
Quote from: Millietant on August 05, 2024, 09:10:54 PMI'm pretty sure he deliberately changed the steering geometry with the changes he made to the bike....
Hey Dean, I wondered about that, but it *looks like* he did the standard GSXR USD fork swap with the same triple clamps we use on other FJ's.....unless the forks are shorter...maybe he didn't use the spacers?
Thus my question...
Cheers mate
In my experience the forks are approximately 2" shorter sourced from GSXR or R1. Thus the fork extenders that are typically used. I did drop my front end by raising the forks in the triple clamps slightly (not quite a half inch) and it increased "turn in" dexterity noticeably.
I think even that small lowering of the front was too much as I would occasionally get a head shake on deceleration and my front tires seem to "cup" early - well before the tire is worn enough to be thinking about replacing it.
My conclusion is that I a going to try to return my bike to stock ride height, rake and trail... the R1 Triples are the same offset so its just a matter of getting the fork length right.
The way I ride right now, I value stability and tire life more than "turn in" dexterity.
Also, with the front lowered my bike wants to stand up under trail braking... noticeable lift up under those conditions. I hope this also disappears with a return to stock rake and trail. I am not sure if lowering helps or produces this issue.
I may settle on a few millimeters of lowering...
PS: I cannot see any fork extensions on Fred's street fighter
Fred has some of my fork extensions. But maybe on his other bike. If he doesn't have them that would lower the front a lot.
Quote from: Millietant on August 05, 2024, 09:10:54 PMMaybe Fred added it after the first ride - I'm pretty sure he deliberately changed the steering geometry with the changes he made to the bike and felt that was a major contributor to the first ride crash.
Dean is correct. I intentionally lowered the front end by not using any extentions. After my accident, I adjusted the rear lower and dropped the fork tube about 1/4 of an inch in the triples to raise the front end. As it sits right now, using an unscientific manual angle gauge on tapered forks. The rake is 25°. Fortunately Casper has the exact same GSX-R1000 forks so I can compare Apples to Apples. I measured the angle on Casper and the rake is 27°. The 25° rake on the Streetfighter is not exceptionally steep. The OEM rake on my VFR800 is 25.5°.
I added the steering stabilizer as a safety measure to make the steering input a constant at max input force.
Fred