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Title: Engine oil
Post by: ADHD Perfected on April 15, 2015, 09:07:26 PM
Not trying to start anything but I cant find a thread on engine oil.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: FJmonkey on April 15, 2015, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: ADHD Perfected on April 15, 2015, 09:07:26 PM
Not trying to start anything but I cant find a thread on engine oil.

Try looking..... This place is spiked with oil threads.... Think jungle and booby traps... Just saying....
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: TexasDave on April 15, 2015, 09:22:42 PM
Here is the ultimate oil thread by a lubricant engineer. Viewed over 54,000 times. I learned a few things.  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1912.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1912.0)
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: ADHD Perfected on April 15, 2015, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: TexasDave on April 15, 2015, 09:22:42 PM
Here is the ultimate oil thread by a lubricant engineer. Viewed over 54,000 times. I learned a few things.  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1912.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1912.0)
Thanks, on here found some under oil types...oddly enough engine oil and oil in search was a lost cause.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: 1tinindian on April 16, 2015, 12:07:32 AM
oh shit! :bomb: :biggrin: (popcorn)
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: Pat Conlon on April 16, 2015, 12:24:44 AM
Quote from: ADHD Perfected on April 15, 2015, 09:41:28 PM
....oddly enough engine oil and oil in search was a lost cause.

There is a God...
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: theLeopard on April 16, 2015, 01:56:56 AM
The clerks at my local shop are assholes.
"50weight for summer, 40 for winter".

What are you guys running?
I switched back to 50w dino awhile back but im purning the piss out of it in 1500.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: oldktmdude on April 16, 2015, 04:49:41 AM
Quote from: theLeopard on April 16, 2015, 01:56:56 AM
The clerks at my local shop are assholes.
"50weight for summer, 40 for winter".

What are you guys running?
I switched back to 50w dino awhile back but im purning the piss out of it in 1500.
Is it just me or does anybody else have difficulty understanding any of this persons posts?
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: TexasDave on April 16, 2015, 05:08:12 AM
+1. Obviously didn't read the thread. No one likes oil threads but I thought it was the best I've seen and authored by an experienced lubricant engineer who also was tired of oil threads. I found it very informative--but that's just me.  Dave
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: Capn Ron on April 16, 2015, 05:09:02 AM
Quote from: oldktmdude on April 16, 2015, 04:49:41 AM
Quote from: theLeopard on April 16, 2015, 01:56:56 AM
The clerks at my local shop are assholes.
"50weight for summer, 40 for winter".

What are you guys running?
I switched back to 50w dino awhile back but im purning the piss out of it in 1500.
Is it just me or does anybody else have difficulty understanding any of this persons posts?

Not just you...

"I switched back to 50w dino awhile back but im purning the piss out of it in 1500."

I haven't a clue what that sentence even means.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: FJ1100mjk on April 16, 2015, 06:00:46 AM
^^^ For what it's worth, he means that when he switched to 50W oil he started going through it (burning it up) at 1500 miles. This is my best guess. Not even sure why I'm wasting key strokes on this either.

I think the question that really begs, is: Is it really an act, or...? I tend to think not.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: theLeopard on April 16, 2015, 10:33:49 AM
I certainly did read the thread, and learned how 20w50 works which was something the clerks at my local yamaha dealership evaded a few days ago.

I also learned why synthetic is superior, why my engine is running so hot, why my oil is burning up in 1500 miles (at least partially), and will swotch to synthetic asap.

Im asking you guys which oil you chose. Partially because i cant spend $40/gallon on oil but mainly because i ask for opinions to corroborate with my research. Theory is great but the Ducatis they run arent 30years old, our FJs are.

If you dont like my dialect thats fine but, please, dont presume that is atall relevant to my ability or desire to become a better mechanic.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: dougrs on April 16, 2015, 11:30:26 AM
shell rotella T6 5w-40. It is cheap at walmart.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: 1tinindian on April 16, 2015, 12:12:21 PM
Quote from: dougrs on April 16, 2015, 11:30:26 AM
shell rotella T6 5w-40. It is cheap at walmart.

+1
I have been very satisfied after making the switch.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: Chutem on April 17, 2015, 10:42:18 AM
There is currently a rebate offer from Shell on this oil. $5.00 per gallon. Started in Mach I think. Coupon is right on the bottle. 2 bottle limit. I bought 2 gallons at a Walmart here in Central NJ - $19.99 each I think.
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: PaulG on April 17, 2015, 02:33:47 PM
Quote from: TexasDave on April 15, 2015, 09:22:42 PM
Here is the ultimate oil thread by a lubricant engineer. Viewed over 54,000 times. I learned a few things.  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1912.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1912.0)

:unknown:  I tried to read through this thread but had to stop after 5 min.  Insightful, yes.  But if the manual says 10W40 or whatever, then.... put in 10W40 mineral or synthetic and enough with the navel gazing.  No offence to any members here who may own a Ducati (I wish I had an old 900SS   :cray:), but it sounds like a philosophical forum on the tengentinal effects of reciprocating mass and it's effects on the Id of the Desmodici Italia Publica.   :scratch_one-s_head:

I mean, there are people who get paid big bucks to design these things to run at incomprehensible tolerances who tell us with confidence through proven R&D that we should use this-or-that.  Why second guess it?  They were even nice enough to emboss it on the oil cap or engine casing as a reminder...   :pardon:

I'll stop as I feel a ramble coming on - I just got over a 72 hr food poisoning episode and now insomnia so I've had about 12 hrs sleep in the last 5 days and if you've noticed I've been replying to a lot of posts lately 'cuz I feel like I'm hyped up on goofballs and this is a run-on sentance so I will sign off for a couple of days before my head explodes....  :crazy:


Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: ribbert on April 18, 2015, 04:23:41 AM
+1
I've been using engine oil for the last 90,000kms in the FJ and have been very happy with the results.
It copes well in all conditions, doesn't adversely affect the clutch and the engine loves it.

I highly recommend it.

Noel
Title: Re: Engine oil
Post by: Bearly Flying on April 26, 2015, 01:28:24 AM
I would be very careful of using current "Engine Oil", most of the new spec "engine oils" have friction modifiers additive, and reduced Zinc levels to meet EPA requirements. The Friction modifiers are not going to do your clutch any favors, and the reduced Zinc levels are not good for your cam, especially if you are running a high lift profile.

When the FJ was designed, it called for an Oil meeting the SE designation, just because there are newer Oil's on the market it doesn't mean it will meet Your bikes requirements.

Zinc is one of the components that protects wear surfaces, such as cam lobes. But zinc is bad for the modern day catalytic converters, so the EPA has mandated reductions in the level of zinc in motor oils. When the FJ was designed zinc levels were normally around 1200 ppm, now most modern oils are around 600 ppm.

Good old Shell Rotella T 15W 40 Diesel Engine Oil will be as good as any Snake Oil that you can get, easy to come by and cheap.