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Title: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on September 25, 2014, 08:28:04 AM
Hi All I am now the owner of 2 FJ1100, both of which need extensive work. I am based in Grafton, Australia. I am currently doing a full tear down of one of my FJ's (using the other as a map to put it back together again) I am planning on doing one with all the plastic's (but not factory colours) and the other as a street fighter style. Now before you all cry sacrilege, I am building these to please me and for my enjoyment. (its not what you ride, but that you ride). Hope to show some in progress photos 

The bike pictured was running and the other was missing a few bits. I have transferred the missing bit over to the other bike, and have managed to get noise out of it too (sigh of relief). Bike "a" is now getting completely pulled down and cleaned up. Thinking Orange and black for colours
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: fj1289 on September 25, 2014, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on September 25, 2014, 08:28:04 AM
Hi All I am now the owner of 2 FJ1100, both of which need extensive work. I am based in Grafton, Australia. I am currently doing a full tear down of one of my FJ's (using the other as a map to put it back together again) I am planning on doing one with all the plastic's (but not factory colours) and the other as a street fighter style. Now before you all cry sacrilege, I am building these to please me and for my enjoyment. (its not what you ride, but that you ride). Hope to show some in progress photos 

The bike pictured was running and the other was missing a few bits. I have transferred the missing bit over to the other bike, and have managed to get noise out of it too (sigh of relief). Bike "a" is now getting completely pulled down and cleaned up. Thinking Orange and black for colours

Don't be so quick to assume we are a bunch of restoration ninnies - modication is a very well practiced game here!

That said, the FJ frame presents some challenges for a good streetf
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on September 25, 2014, 07:23:34 PM
I know. With the way the frame goes around the forks it makes it interesting. If I get the balance wrong, the bike will look crap. A lot of fjs I have seen done have got the balance wrong and the lights seem to hang out where they don't belong. There is a guy on the forum with an Orange and black fighter that is close to balanced and was aiming for that.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Capn Ron on September 25, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on September 25, 2014, 07:23:34 PM
There is a guy on the forum with an Orange and black fighter that is close to balanced and was aiming for that.

Yeah, nothing wrong with turning a "parts bike" into a runner!   :good2:

Do you have a pic link to that one?  I'd like to see what you're aiming for...
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on September 25, 2014, 08:13:12 PM
http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/MVaughan88/media/IMAG0514_zpsc1b75437.jpg.html (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/MVaughan88/media/IMAG0514_zpsc1b75437.jpg.html)
Hope the link works.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on September 25, 2014, 08:27:41 PM
Bikes in bits
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: fj1289 on September 25, 2014, 11:37:32 PM
Quote from: fj1289 on September 25, 2014, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on September 25, 2014, 08:28:04 AM
Hi All I am now the owner of 2 FJ1100, both of which need extensive work. I am based in Grafton, Australia. I am currently doing a full tear down of one of my FJ's (using the other as a map to put it back together again) I am planning on doing one with all the plastic's (but not factory colours) and the other as a street fighter style. Now before you all cry sacrilege, I am building these to please me and for my enjoyment. (its not what you ride, but that you ride). Hope to show some in progress photos 

The bike pictured was running and the other was missing a few bits. I have transferred the missing bit over to the other bike, and have managed to get noise out of it too (sigh of relief). Bike "a" is now getting completely pulled down and cleaned up. Thinking Orange and black for colours

Quote from: Urban_Legend on September 25, 2014, 08:28:04 AM
Hi All I am now the owner of 2 FJ1100, both of which need extensive work. I am based in Grafton, Australia. I am currently doing a full tear down of one of my FJ's (using the other as a map to put it back together again) I am planning on doing one with all the plastic's (but not factory colours) and the other as a street fighter style. Now before you all cry sacrilege, I am building these to please me and for my enjoyment. (its not what you ride, but that you ride). Hope to show some in progress photos 

The bike pictured was running and the other was missing a few bits. I have transferred the missing bit over to the other bike, and have managed to get noise out of it too (sigh of relief). Bike "a" is now getting completely pulled down and cleaned up. Thinking Orange and black for colours

Don't be so quick to assume we are a bunch of restoration ninnies - modification is a very well practiced game here!

That said, the FJ frame presents some challenges for a good streetfighter build -  but not impossible to do well.  Look around and you'll find a couple recent fighter builds on here and a couple older ones as I recall.  And a turbo chopper build...

That's what it was supposed to have been posted! 

Most of the fighters so far have been done on the cheap -- which is great because it shows builder skill and imagination and craftsmanship, but I'd like to see one incorporate some of the suspension and brake and wheel upgrades fairly common on this site.  And a 1349 engine...and a nitrous kit....or a turbo.....and.....
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on September 25, 2014, 11:56:15 PM
I have a friend with a turbo fj1100. He said the one time he rode, it scared the shitout of him.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Bones on September 26, 2014, 12:46:36 AM
What about this one, I reckon it looks cool.

(http://i1285.photobucket.com/albums/a586/the4ts/FjBOBBER_zps3925eb22.jpg)
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on September 26, 2014, 12:54:12 AM
I love it. Could be out of my non-existent budget though. But that is what I am aspiring too. Just researching upgrading the suspension and would like a new cap for the tank. Will later model fuel tanks fit the 84 FJ?
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Bones on September 26, 2014, 03:46:41 PM
Not sure, I know later models are 22 litre compared to the 84's 24 litre, and later models had a beefier frame, but the mounting points I assume should be the same. Maybe someone who's done it will chime in.

                                                                Tony.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: jscgdunn on September 26, 2014, 03:53:28 PM
Fuel tanks will inter-change up to 87 for sure as we have done it...as well they are all gravity feed with vacuum petcock.  I assume they interchange for all models...but you never know until you try.

Jeff
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: fj1289 on September 26, 2014, 10:24:47 PM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on September 26, 2014, 12:54:12 AM
I love it. Could be out of my non-existent budget though. But that is what I am aspiring too. Just researching upgrading the suspension and would like a new cap for the tank. Will later model fuel tanks fit the 84 FJ?

Yes - I run an 84 tank on my 89 and vice versa -- but I do run pingle fuel valves on each.  The adaptor block was different for each - the distance between mounting holes are different.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on October 02, 2014, 10:46:44 PM
All right....the bike is now apart. The only thing left together is the engine. (which will get a freshen up later). Time to clean it all up and to start gathering new parts. I would like to upgrade the suspension (dollars count).

What is the most painless, cost effective and straight forward upgrade?
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: FJmonkey on October 02, 2014, 10:54:35 PM
Rock on dude, the FJ karma will keep you in the universal Kookaloo zone.....
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Arnie on October 03, 2014, 10:46:45 AM
Urban_Legend asked, "What is the most painless, cost effective and straight forward upgrade?"


Replace the rear wheel with a 17" GSXR wheel assembly.
That includes the wheel, sprocket carrier, brake carrier and caliper.
Basically, everything from the inside of the left swingarm to the inside of the right swingarm.

Then you can start on all the other upgrades :-)
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on October 05, 2014, 07:45:11 PM
All de-greased and cleaned. decision time (colours and mods) will get frame media blasted and powder coated (wheels too) Not sure whether to polish the swing arm or paint it too?????
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: fj1289 on October 05, 2014, 11:47:24 PM
If you want to keep a budget, you can try this for the frame instead of powder coating:

http://www.psychobike.com/forums/streetbike-dragbike/26006-painting-frame.html (http://www.psychobike.com/forums/streetbike-dragbike/26006-painting-frame.html)
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: ribbert on October 06, 2014, 02:13:45 AM
Quote from: fj1289 on October 05, 2014, 11:47:24 PM
If you want to keep a budget, you can try this for the frame instead of powder coating:

http://www.psychobike.com/forums/streetbike-dragbike/26006-painting-frame.html (http://www.psychobike.com/forums/streetbike-dragbike/26006-painting-frame.html)

What an excellent tip, love it!
The close ups look good with just the right gloss level and texture.

Noel
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on October 08, 2014, 05:11:22 AM
Quote from: fj1289 on October 05, 2014, 11:47:24 PM
If you want to keep a budget, you can try this for the frame instead of powder coating:

http://www.psychobike.com/forums/streetbike-dragbike/26006-painting-frame.html (http://www.psychobike.com/forums/streetbike-dragbike/26006-painting-frame.html)


Thanks for the link.....looks good. Still deciding on weather to try it.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: aviationfred on October 08, 2014, 09:07:58 AM
Quote from: Arnie on October 03, 2014, 10:46:45 AM
Urban_Legend asked, "What is the most painless, cost effective and straight forward upgrade?"


Replace the rear wheel with a 17" GSXR wheel assembly.
That includes the wheel, sprocket carrier, brake carrier and caliper.
Basically, everything from the inside of the left swingarm to the inside of the right swingarm.

Then you can start on all the other upgrades :-)


The above 17" rear wheel mod. IMO.... (a must have for a street fighter)


I see that you have the swing arm off. A fairly easy mod is to swap in a 89'/90 swing arm. The benifits are that you can use a set of adjustable dog bones and change the ride height at will.

Fred
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: X-Ray on October 14, 2014, 01:15:26 AM
That bedliner spray looks fantastic. Oooh, new member from Grafton, guess where our rally is being held next year..........   :good2:

Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on October 16, 2014, 06:40:52 AM
When is the rally. Would love to have it done in time. Just have to sell my Triumph Daytona to get Tue funds to do it right.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on October 20, 2014, 11:17:54 PM
Ok. So I have started getting parts together for the bike. 2 new belly pans on order , and a front fender and tank rubbers on order from RPM. Seems like GSXR rear wheels and hens teeth have a lot in common here in Australia. Might have to stick with standard stuff for now. I am also trying to source a CBR F4i rear shock, but no luck so far. Will get the frame and wheels media blasted nex week and try and get colours onthem ASAP.

Motor and forks hopefully start their rebuilds next week too.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: aviationfred on October 20, 2014, 11:26:37 PM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on October 20, 2014, 11:17:54 PM
. I am also trying to source a CBR F4i rear shock, but no luck so far.


I have a CBR F4i shock that I can send for the cost of shipping.

Fred
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on October 21, 2014, 12:00:36 AM
Sounds good Fred. How do we arrange this? Postage from USA can be quite high.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on October 21, 2014, 03:45:08 AM
Has anyone fitted a tyre hugger to the FJ swing arm before? Looking to eliminate the rear mud guard /fender.
Which ones fit best?
Can the battery be relocated to in the Duck tail? looking at cleaning up the airbox area on my second FJ for the street fighter look. Where else can the battery be located?
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: FJmonkey on October 21, 2014, 11:04:29 AM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on October 21, 2014, 03:45:08 AM
Has anyone fitted a tyre hugger to the FJ swing arm before? Looking to eliminate the rear mud guard /fender.
Which ones fit best?
Can the battery be relocated to in the Duck tail? looking at cleaning up the airbox area on my second FJ for the street fighter look. Where else can the battery be located?

A few of us have fitted huggers, myself included. I will post up a pic or two my 92 GSXR unit today. Its not pretty yet, it needs some TLC and Red paint but it is mounted. LAMike has a nicer one fitted to his FJ swing arm...
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: X-Ray on October 21, 2014, 05:51:43 PM
Mmmmm, watching this closely as I have sitting in my shed a very neglected '92 1200 that has recently been left with me. This bike will need a full ground up rebuild, will start a new thread on this once I am sure I am keeping it,   :good2:
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on October 25, 2014, 02:45:32 AM
Been a big week for the FJ (need a good name for her). She is a high maintenance girl though. Spent about $3k on new bits for her - Belly pan, RPM stainless exhaust, front fender plus lots of small bits and new Sidchrome tool kit (the Kmart flexy tools weren't cutting it).

Her frame and wheels are getting media blasted and powder coated this week, then hopefully  I can start putting her back together. I was going to upgrade to a GSXR rear wheel, but the lack of availability and price (have already blown the budget big time) and still trying to source a new rear shock (something less than $900 would be good).

will post pics of frame and wheels plus build up and I go.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Bones on October 25, 2014, 04:12:31 AM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on October 25, 2014, 02:45:32 AM

I was going to upgrade to a GSXR rear wheel, but the lack of availability and price (have already blown the budget big time) and still trying to source a new rear shock (something less than $900 would be good).


I think you'd have more luck finding rocking horse shit than a gsxr wheel here, plenty on Ebay in the states but shipping is prohibitive. I'm wondering if early xjr 1200/1300 wheels would fit as they may be easier to source. You can buy a new Hagon shock for around the $500 mark, I've got one on mine and have no complaints.

                                                               Tony.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: ribbert on October 25, 2014, 06:47:06 AM
Quote from: Bones on October 25, 2014, 04:12:31 AM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on October 25, 2014, 02:45:32 AM

I was going to upgrade to a GSXR rear wheel, but the lack of availability and price (have already blown the budget big time) and still trying to source a new rear shock (something less than $900 would be good).


I think you'd have more luck finding rocking horse shit than a gsxr wheel here, plenty on Ebay in the states but shipping is prohibitive. I'm wondering if early xjr 1200/1300 wheels would fit as they may be easier to source. You can buy a new Hagon shock for around the $500 mark, I've got one on mine and have no complaints.

                                                              Tony.

You could look for an FZR600R wheel, same spoke pattern as original too.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2806/12047526724_daa383e235_c.jpg)

BTW, the above is an FJ

Noel
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Bones on October 25, 2014, 06:59:04 PM
Quote from: ribbert on October 25, 2014, 06:47:06 AM
Quote from: Bones on October 25, 2014, 04:12:31 AM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on October 25, 2014, 02:45:32 AM

I was going to upgrade to a GSXR rear wheel, but the lack of availability and price (have already blown the budget big time) and still trying to source a new rear shock (something less than $900 would be good).


I think you'd have more luck finding rocking horse shit than a gsxr wheel here, plenty on Ebay in the states but shipping is prohibitive. I'm wondering if early xjr 1200/1300 wheels would fit as they may be easier to source. You can buy a new Hagon shock for around the $500 mark, I've got one on mine and have no complaints.

                                                              Tony.

You could look for an FZR600R wheel, same spoke pattern as original too.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2806/12047526724_daa383e235_c.jpg)

BTW, the above is an FJ

Noel

Is that what's on yours Noel. If so are they a straight fit or do you have to modify them.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: ribbert on October 26, 2014, 03:49:31 AM
Quote from: Bones on October 25, 2014, 06:59:04 PM
You could look for an FZR600R wheel, same spoke pattern as original too.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2806/12047526724_daa383e235_c.jpg)

BTW, the above is an FJ

Noel

Is that what's on yours Noel. If so are they a straight fit or do you have to modify them.
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Yes, that's mine. I bought it already mounted in the swing arm but it appears to bolt straight up.

Noel
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on October 28, 2014, 09:17:35 PM
I week for stuff to arrive from USA to Australia. Pretty impressive. Thanks RPM. :good2: now the wait for the other orders.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on November 17, 2014, 01:49:22 AM
Hi all. Been a while since the last post. Been playing the waiting game. So today I picked up the wheels and frame from the painters. Happy with the results. Installed new bearings, new tyres and new discs. The forks have had a complete rebuild, but the bad news is the motor will cost more than the budget will allow. All internals are completely knackered. Looks like the other bike will now be a parts bike.

Well at least I can start putting the other bits together.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Capn Ron on November 17, 2014, 03:14:51 AM
Sweet looking frame there!  When I powder coated mine, I considered going to a black finish...You might be onto something there!   :good2:
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on November 17, 2014, 03:17:56 AM
Nice new Hagon shock ready to install
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on December 05, 2014, 09:28:39 PM
Beer fridge is stocked up and I have finally started putting the jigsaw back together. I want to say a big thanks to Timbo for the fairing, motor and other bits.
New head stem bearings are in and triple tree fitted, and have started fitting up my new HEL braided brake and clutch lines. I am still painting all of the small brackets and bits and it is a slightly different "black" to the frame, but I think the over all effect will look good.

Will post pics as I go. Thanks to everyone for your advice and help so far.

One quick question. Is there and easy way to fit the motor in the frame? (i.e. frame over motor, the lift and fit wheels and suspension or the other way round and fit motor last)


Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on December 06, 2014, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on December 05, 2014, 09:28:39 PM

Is there and easy way to fit the motor in the frame? (i.e. frame over motor, the lift and fit wheels and suspension or the other way round and fit motor last)


The easiest method I found is to build the bike around the engine. That way, the mass is kept low, until you have the other parts on to leverage it up.

I go in this order: Engine, frame, lower frame, swing axle, rear suspension, center stand, rear wheel, triple tree, forks, front wheel, rear subframe, front subframe, wiring harness, other stuff...

I'll be doing this again in the near future with a couple of my projects.

Steve

Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: ribbert on December 06, 2014, 10:57:50 PM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on December 05, 2014, 09:28:39 PM

.......easy way to fit the motor in the frame? (i.e. frame over motor, the lift and fit wheels and suspension or the other way round and fit motor last)


I put a bit of 4x2 under the centre stand to raise the bike a little (so the motor clears the frame), wheel the motor in on a floor jack and jack it up into position. That's it.

Removal is pretty much the reverse. Take the weight of the motor on the jack, remove the engine bolts, lower the jack and wheel it away.

If you are doing it from the manual, there is no need to remove the fairing or lots of other stuff they tell you to.

If you paint your motor before fitting it, remember the paint doesn't cure until it has been subjected to engine heat for a couple of hours and is very easy to get finger prints in it while handling.

A recent photo of Monkeys bike suggests Randy does it the same way but probably with better equipment.

Noel
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: FJmonkey on December 06, 2014, 11:12:23 PM
Quote from: ribbert on December 06, 2014, 10:57:50 PM
A recent photo of Monkeys bike suggests Randy does it the same way but probably with better equipment.

Noel


Just a floor jack, twisting the motor at the right moment spins it into place for the floor jack. We had it dialed in like making fast food burgers. Not that Randy does not have better equipment, just not required for the task of dropping/installing the engine. His lift tables made work much easier for the the other bits, and his collection of tools, very nice. The only thing better was his hospitality and company.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on December 08, 2014, 03:03:56 AM
Hi have been requested by another member to post some progress pics (thanks Timbo-1). After much sweating and swearing I have managed to connect the wheels and make what looks like it could be a motor bike. lol It is just a lose fit up at the moment and there are still a few little bits to do (realised I have to fit the foot scuff plates at the same time as the pivot shaft for the swing arm - doh)

Hopefully I will be able to fit the engine this weekend after I give it a bit of a freshen up.

Thought I might do a list of all the new parts (if anyone is interested)

New - exhaust (including headers and muffler can), rear shock, bearings (everywhere except motor - will be a later rebuild) oil cooler, blinkers, tail light, belly pan, wind screen, rebuild kit for the carbs, front fender, ignition switch, ignition black box (igniter), full set of Allen key bolts for motor casings and fairings and all bolt on bits, tyres, new paint on everything (not factory colours) new rubbers for everything, rebuilt front forks, new seat clips and helmet lock, brake discs rotors, braided brake and clutch lines, air pods, crank case breather, DID chain and 17t and 40t sprockets

Second hand bits - fairing, motor,  brake callipers, wiring harness, brake and clutch leavers and reservoirs

So that's where all the money went.  :wacko3:
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: stua1959 on December 08, 2014, 03:20:48 AM
looks good so far, look forward to seeing the finished bike
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on December 13, 2014, 02:48:41 AM
I managed to empty a few boxes of parts today. Engine fitted, Carbies Fitted, exhaust fitted, new oil cooler ready to go on. Hoping to start on the wiring tomorrow. Still a heap of stainless steel screws and bolts to fit to the motor and frame.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: fj johnnie on December 13, 2014, 07:06:19 AM
 Awesome job. What a great thing it is to restore an old favorite like an FJ.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on December 14, 2014, 04:04:50 AM
Hi All. Got some more done on the bike today. Brake line and brakes fitted up (still need to bleed them) Sub frame fitted and some cosmetic stuff (stainless bolts) fitted to various parts.
My next question, and I realise this could open a can of worm, is about jetting and setting up the carbie. So to give all the info. The motor as far as I know is standard, but I am running dual UNI pods and an RPM 4-2-1 exhaust. The bike has 17t front sprocket and 40t rear. It will be running on 95 octane or better fuel. Any help would be most appreciated. I have looked all over the forum for info, and will be recruiting some more knowledgeable volunteers, but FJ knowledge would be nice.

Ta

Mark
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Arnie on December 14, 2014, 05:50:41 AM
Talk to Randy.  He'll give you his exact recommendations for jetting with these I & E mods.

If I were to guess, I'd say start with 40 pilots, 115 or maybe 117.5 MJs, and middle groove on the needle.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on December 14, 2014, 06:06:40 AM
Quote from: Arnie on December 14, 2014, 05:50:41 AM
Talk to Randy.  He'll give you his exact recommendations for jetting with these I & E mods.

If I were to guess, I'd say start with 40 pilots, 115 or maybe 117.5 MJs, and middle groove on the needle.


Thanks Arnie. I have sent Randy a PM

Mark
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Timbo-1 on December 15, 2014, 04:49:57 AM
Looking real great Mark :good2:
Soon be finished and look forward to seeing end result... (popcorn)
Don't be alarmed if the donk smokes when you fire it up first time as I put 20mls of oil in each pot and spun it over on the starter for 30 seconds. Didn't know how long it was going to sit.
Cheers mate, keep up the photos......  :biggrin:
Timbo...
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on December 15, 2014, 05:55:59 AM
Quote from: Timbo-1 on December 15, 2014, 04:49:57 AM
Looking real great Mark :good2:
Soon be finished and look forward to seeing end result... (popcorn)
Don't be alarmed if the donk smokes when you fire it up first time as I put 20mls of oil in each pot and spun it over on the starter for 30 seconds. Didn't know how long it was going to sit.
Cheers mate, keep up the photos......  :biggrin:
Timbo...

Thanks Timbo
Well after months of waiting I got noise out of the bike tonight. (only turning over - no fuel or oil) only I seem to have something wired backwards (or wrong) would only turn over when as I switched the key to the off position. Thoughts? Have to change the filter add some oil and see if we can get this thing breathing.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: the fan on December 15, 2014, 08:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bones on October 25, 2014, 06:59:04 PM
Quote from: ribbert on October 25, 2014, 06:47:06 AM
Quote from: Bones on October 25, 2014, 04:12:31 AM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on October 25, 2014, 02:45:32 AM

I was going to upgrade to a GSXR rear wheel, but the lack of availability and price (have already blown the budget big time) and still trying to source a new rear shock (something less than $900 would be good).


I think you'd have more luck finding rocking horse shit than a gsxr wheel here, plenty on Ebay in the states but shipping is prohibitive. I'm wondering if early xjr 1200/1300 wheels would fit as they may be easier to source. You can buy a new Hagon shock for around the $500 mark, I've got one on mine and have no complaints.

                                                              Tony.

You could look for an FZR600R wheel, same spoke pattern as original too.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2806/12047526724_daa383e235_c.jpg)

BTW, the above is an FJ

Noel

Is that what's on yours Noel. If so are they a straight fit or do you have to modify them.

The mods to install the FZR600R wheel (same as USA YZF600/YZF600R) are pretty straightforward and detaile in this thread http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1567.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1567.0)

Its interesting on ribberts bike pictured above that he does not have the fZR600R/YZF 600 rear brake caliper which hangs above the swingarm. The setup he has appears to be from a YZF1000 thunderace. Not sure how they handled the difference in axle size as the 1000 has a much larger axle.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Pat Conlon on December 15, 2014, 09:30:16 AM
That does not look like my Thunder Ace's caliper mounts..
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: the fan on December 15, 2014, 10:19:04 AM
Pat, I will have to look at mine when I get home. I know my ace caliper is underslung and uses a similar bar but it's been a while since I really looked at it. I do know tha all year YZF600 (FZR600R) use the same caliper mount that places the caliper above the swing arm.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: ribbert on December 16, 2014, 07:10:41 AM
Quote from: the fan on December 15, 2014, 08:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bones on October 25, 2014, 06:59:04 PM
Quote from: ribbert on October 25, 2014, 06:47:06 AM
Quote from: Bones on October 25, 2014, 04:12:31 AM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on October 25, 2014, 02:45:32 AM

I was going to upgrade to a GSXR rear wheel, but the lack of availability and price (have already blown the budget big time) and still trying to source a new rear shock (something less than $900 would be good).


I think you'd have more luck finding rocking horse shit than a gsxr wheel here, plenty on Ebay in the states but shipping is prohibitive. I'm wondering if early xjr 1200/1300 wheels would fit as they may be easier to source. You can buy a new Hagon shock for around the $500 mark, I've got one on mine and have no complaints.

                                                              Tony.

You could look for an FZR600R wheel, same spoke pattern as original too.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2806/12047526724_daa383e235_c.jpg)

BTW, the above is an FJ

Noel

Is that what's on yours Noel. If so are they a straight fit or do you have to modify them.

The mods to install the FZR600R wheel (same as USA YZF600/YZF600R) are pretty straightforward and detaile in this thread http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1567.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=1567.0)

Its interesting on ribberts bike pictured above that he does not have the fZR600R/YZF 600 rear brake caliper which hangs above the swingarm. The setup he has appears to be from a YZF1000 thunderace. Not sure how they handled the difference in axle size as the 1000 has a much larger axle.

It has a standard FJ axle. I am no Yamaha model expert but I fit FZR600R pads and sprockets to it. I was of the understanding that this model, or at least those years, was not sold in the US. I also, for reasons I can't recall, didn't think the FZR600R and YZF 600 were the same bike. But I could of course be wrong. I do recall the FZR600R and the FZR600 were very different bikes.

Noel
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: the fan on December 16, 2014, 03:40:32 PM
Ribbert,

The FZR600R (aus++) was the same bike as the 94.5-96 YZF600 sold in the US and Canada with only a few minor cosmetic changes. The later (96 most of the world /97USA YZF600R shares many parts with the earlier bike including the complete swingarm, linkage, wheel and brakes.

Oddly we had a FZR600R in 94 and 95 as well as the YZF... It was basically the same as the FZR600 sold worldwide.

I race on one of the 94 models (technically a 95 in the US but the same as the EUR/AUS 94 and a 94 model year build date....) Confused yet?

I still need to figure out which caliper/hanger that is to satisfy my curiosity.

Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: ribbert on December 17, 2014, 01:15:27 AM
Quote from: the fan on December 16, 2014, 03:40:32 PM
Ribbert,

The FZR600R (aus++) was the same bike as the 94.5-96 YZF600 sold in the US and Canada with only a few minor cosmetic changes. The later (96 most of the world /97USA YZF600R shares many parts with the earlier bike including the complete swingarm, linkage, wheel and brakes.

Oddly we had a FZR600R in 94 and 95 as well as the YZF... It was basically the same as the FZR600 sold worldwide.

I race on one of the 94 models (technically a 95 in the US but the same as the EUR/AUS 94 and a 94 model year build date....) Confused yet?

I still need to figure out which caliper/hanger that is to satisfy my curiosity.



As previously stated, I am no model expert and you seem to be on top of the various 600's.
Wouldn't it be likely that all the components came from the same bike, why make the job unecessarily difficult?
The pads are for the "R" (as is the sprocket) and the axle is FJ.

Can't help beyond that, I bought the swing arm, wheel, brake, M/C, hose, sprocket etc mounted. The caliper has no identifying numbers and the stamping on the wheel identifies it as '94-'96 "R".

It turns and stops, that's extent of my interest in it.  :biggrin:

Noel
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on December 20, 2014, 02:05:16 AM
Reached a major mile stone today. The bike has life ( IT LIVES....Maw hahahahaha) And what a sweet sound it is too. Fitted new jets in the carb (42's and 115's) and adjusted the needles (third groove from the top (as per Randy's suggestions, thanks Randy). Quick and responsive sound, and a rumble the could wake the dead (the neighbours will love me on the early morning runs). Just have to tidy up the wiring (need resistors for the LED blinkers) and bleed the brakes (pain in the arse job - rear brake master cylinder plunger not pulling the fluid through, have a spare and will swap out) and wait for the panels to be painted. happy times.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Timbo-1 on December 23, 2014, 12:53:58 AM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on December 20, 2014, 02:05:16 AM
Reached a major mile stone today. The bike has life ( IT LIVES....Maw hahahahaha) And what a sweet sound it is too. Fitted new jets in the carb (42's and 115's) and adjusted the needles (third groove from the top (as per Randy's suggestions, thanks Randy). Quick and responsive sound, and a rumble the could wake the dead (the neighbours will love me on the early morning runs). Just have to tidy up the wiring (need resistors for the LED blinkers) and bleed the brakes (pain in the arse job - rear brake master cylinder plunger not pulling the fluid through, have a spare and will swap out) and wait for the panels to be painted. happy times.
Well done... :good2:....looking forward to more photos... (popcorn)
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on January 04, 2015, 03:37:06 AM
After 2 days  :dash2: of fault finding and swapping out jets and changing plugs, and cleaning carbs and adjusting floats, the bike is finally tuned and even moved under its own power. Found that I still have some work to do on the brakes, but it is still a step closer to completion. Wahoo.  :yahoo: A big thanks to my friend Mick Single for making the 200km trip and two days out of your life to help me.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on January 04, 2015, 04:16:41 AM
Here are some video links of the big occasion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kIDBRboQ4U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kIDBRboQ4U)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLnHUoFEDqM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLnHUoFEDqM)
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: fj johnnie on January 04, 2015, 07:37:29 AM
 Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Timbo-1 on January 04, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
Bloody well done Mark :yahoo:
An absolute credit to you and your persistence... :good2:
Cheers Timbo.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on January 13, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
Hello my fellow FJ'ers. It has been a few weeks since any major announcements about "Veronica" (yes my FJ has a name). Well Today I can finally reveal her colour to you all and I can start on the last phase of her rebuild. Hooray.

Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Flynt on January 13, 2015, 07:54:29 PM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on January 13, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
Well Today I can finally reveal her colour to you all...

Nice Mark!!

Frank
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on January 15, 2015, 01:56:51 AM
Well here it is the nearly finished product. Only a few things left to do and we are ready for rego. I will put a before and after so you can see how far we have come.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Timbo-1 on January 15, 2015, 02:39:12 AM
Great work mate... :good2:.. Looks real good..
Real credit to you, just remember, shiney side up.. :good:

Cheers Timbo.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Bones on January 15, 2015, 03:31:00 AM
Looks great Mark, love the colour. Are you leaving it like that or putting graphics on it. I think graphics would set it off better, just not sure what colour.  Mmmm....Black or white.??

                                                                    Tony.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on January 15, 2015, 03:39:55 AM
Quote from: Bones on January 15, 2015, 03:31:00 AM
Looks great Mark, love the colour. Are you leaving it like that or putting graphics on it. I think graphics wiould set it off better, just not sure what colour.  Mmmm....Black or white.??

                                                                     Tony.

Not sure if I will put graphics on it. If I do it will be minimal, maybe just YAMAHA on the tank. Want to keep it simple. I have the red brake lines, so maybe a red pinstripe. Still need to get some mirrors for it and some of the protectors for the fairing, and a few little adjustment, but I really want to ride it now. Been 3 months since I sold my Trumpy Daytona and I feel the need to get moving again. one thing that did annoy me was that when I fitted the new screen (which has been sitting in my shed for a while) there was a big scratch on it. Major bummer.

Mark
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: oz.fj on January 15, 2015, 04:43:07 AM
Looks great Mark :good2:
Can't wait to see it up close in a couple of weeks :good:

Darran
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: oz.fj on January 15, 2015, 04:46:00 AM
Quote from: Timbo-1 on January 15, 2015, 02:39:12 AM
just remember, shiney side up.. :good:

Cheers Timbo.

Glad to see your post....
Heard about the accident on Benaraby Rd This arvo.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: Urban_Legend on January 15, 2015, 05:16:19 AM
It is by no means "show quality". I have built this to ride.
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: FJmonkey on January 15, 2015, 11:35:32 AM
Quote from: Urban_Legend on January 15, 2015, 03:39:55 AM
one thing that did annoy me was that when I fitted the new screen (which has been sitting in my shed for a while) there was a big scratch on it. Major bummer.

Just like paint, scratches can be polished out...

Looks really clean and well done, thanks for posting up your effort of love...
Title: Re: A pair of projects
Post by: X-Ray on January 15, 2015, 06:13:22 PM
That has come together really nicely, top effort. Gives me inspiration to start tackling my Project '92 :good2:

Only a few weeks to Grafton, woohoo, we can see the blue beast close up,  :dance2: