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Title: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: aussiefj on June 18, 2014, 09:24:52 PM
Ok maybe a slight exaggeration and assuming you already have the steering stem out. Drill 2 small holes, approx 3/16in, through opposite sides of the steering stem where it flares out above the lower race then using a small nail punch or similar you can punch the race out from above. Plug the holes with a small dab of silicon when you're finished and next time it really will be a 60 second job.
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: biggo on October 02, 2014, 02:20:01 AM
I wish I had seen this before spending ages with a dremell cutting a slot in the old race
Sometimes things are so simple in hindsight  :dash2: :dash2:
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: FJ1100mjk on October 02, 2014, 06:18:10 AM
Quote from: aussiefj on June 18, 2014, 09:24:52 PM
and next time it really will be a 60 second job.

One would think, that a next time wouldn't be needed. Still running the original OEMs in my FJs.

Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: aussiefj on October 02, 2014, 06:34:56 AM

One would think, that a next time wouldn't be needed. Still running the original OEMs in my FJs.

Thanks for the tip!


They take a pounding in Oz because of the cart tracks they call roads, in Sth Oz a road with an 80kms speed limit requires less maintenance than a road with a 100 limit, so they reduce the speed limit and ignore the pot holes to save money, then blame accidents on excessive speed instead of 3rd rate roads, plus there's the bonus of more revenue through more speeding fines because of the reduced limits.

John
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: Arnie on October 02, 2014, 09:45:02 AM
Wow !!
You've demonstrated both mechanical and political nouse in a single thread :-)
Welcome aboard. 
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: ribbert on October 02, 2014, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: aussiefj on October 02, 2014, 06:34:56 AM

........a road with an 80kms speed limit requires less maintenance than a road with a 100 limit, so they reduce the speed limit and ignore the pot holes to save money, then blame accidents on excessive speed instead of 3rd rate roads, plus there's the bonus of more revenue through more speeding fines because of the reduced limits.

John

This very strategy is under consideration for the entire Alpine area where the rally was held this year. They don't have the money to fix the roads and are considering a blanket lowering of speed limits (80kph) as an alternative.
It's hard enough trying to keep anywhere near a 100 on those fantastic roads, 80 would be impossible. If policed, they would make a killing.

They have already done the same thing around the Great Ocean Road and most of the Otways and around some of the hills NE of Melbourne.

For those of you unfamiliar with our great State, get caught exceeding any posted speed limit by 30 kph or more and your vehicle is impounded on the spot (the send a tow truck to pick it up). It costs about a $1000 to retrieve it plus a min $500 speeding fine plus whatever else they charge you with, automatic licence suspension, half your demerit points and if you don't pay they do things like suspend your vehicle registration or drivers licence or won't except the rego renewal when it falls due.

And they expect us drive around deserted country roads in the middle of nowhere at 80 kph.

There was a time when Police exercised roadside discretion in enforcing speeding laws, but that has been taken away as well.

I recently had occasion to call on my auto club roadside assistance and it was going to take half a day for a tow truck to travel to the semi remote location. Fortunately I ended up not needing it but I wonder what a cop would do if impounding your vehicle, sit with you on the side of the road for half a day waiting for the truck then leave you standing on the side of the road in the middle of the bush? Hitchhiking is also illegal here. Maybe he could hide around the corner and book you for that too to make up for his time off the road.

5kph (3mph) over any speed limit can and will see you get booked both by mobile or fixed speed detection devices and 250 will likely see you locked up regardless of the location or conditions.

I rode the FJ interstate last week and as always felt relief when I crossed the border. Not only do they have higher speed limits but far more liberal tolerances and far less speed detection equipment. Discretionary application of the rules still seems to apply as well. They don't view motorists as the enemy and it would appear they are still allowed to smile and be civil when talking to you.

It's a great shame, where I live has some of the best riding in the country.

Noel
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: TexasDave on October 02, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Maybe we will be seeing more Aussie motorcyclists vacationing in the US of A when they feel the need for speed.  Dave
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: aviationfred on October 02, 2014, 12:39:45 PM
Quote from: TexasDave on October 02, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Maybe we will be seeing more Aussie motorcyclists vacationing in the US of A when they feel the need for speed.  Dave


+1 Dave  :hi:

Fred
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: rlucas on October 02, 2014, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: TexasDave on October 02, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Maybe we will be seeing more Aussie motorcyclists vacationing in the US of A when they feel the need for speed.  Dave

You say that like you think it would be a good thing...
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: TexasDave on October 02, 2014, 01:49:17 PM
Quote from: rlucas on October 02, 2014, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: TexasDave on October 02, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Maybe we will be seeing more Aussie motorcyclists vacationing in the US of A when they feel the need for speed.  Dave

You say that like you think it would be a good thing...
Yes I forgot about the Aussies on this forum but I am sure there are some good ones down under.   :rofl2:  Dave
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: aussiefj on October 02, 2014, 06:09:24 PM
Now now Mr TexasDave and rlucas I think you need to take note of rlucas's signature and get out more, I'm sure there are quite a few decent Aussies on here, well at least one or two, well maybe one, ok on second thoughts you maybe right. But if you ever make it down under I'm sure someone will throw a shrimp on the barbie for you     
as long as you bring the beer.

Love, John.
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: simi_ed on October 02, 2014, 06:51:16 PM
John, You sound like you may be OK for an aussie.  I have had a beer, a meal and bunked with Baldy and he's OK in my book.  Then there's the other aussie  :bad:.

Ed
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: FJmonkey on October 02, 2014, 09:07:18 PM
I routinely get notifications from Home Land Security of Aussie visitors in my area. It really helps with visitor relations as we have time to hide the live stock and our young. However it seems to piss off my Aussie wife when I run the dog off the kennel for a weekend sleep over...  :sarcastic:
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: aussiefj on October 03, 2014, 05:01:46 AM
I think you are confusing us with New Zealanders.
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: the fan on October 03, 2014, 05:44:35 AM
Quote from: aussiefj on October 03, 2014, 05:01:46 AM
I think you are confusing us with New Zealanders.

There's a difference?
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: oldktmdude on October 03, 2014, 07:34:54 AM
   G'day John, I bet when you posted this, you didn't expect it to end up where it has?  As a side note, good idea on the bearing removal.   :i_am_so_happy:  Pete.
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: ribbert on October 03, 2014, 07:38:10 AM
Quote from: the fan on October 03, 2014, 05:44:35 AM
Quote from: aussiefj on October 03, 2014, 05:01:46 AM
I think you are confusing us with New Zealanders.

There's a difference?

No, just like Americans and Canadians.

Noel
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: the fan on October 03, 2014, 08:58:20 AM
Quote from: ribbert on October 03, 2014, 07:38:10 AM
Quote from: the fan on October 03, 2014, 05:44:35 AM
Quote from: aussiefj on October 03, 2014, 05:01:46 AM
I think you are confusing us with New Zealanders.

There's a difference?

No, just like Americans and Canadians.

Noel

Canadians are polite.
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: Burns on October 03, 2014, 11:11:10 AM
Thanks for the great tip! I was gonna go the Dermal route but this sounds like the way to go.
But are two holes needed?  Seems like one would do the trick.
also, maybe threading the hole for a short screw would make this mod a bit more "sano" and would improve its weather-proofing

p.s.  re: traffic enforcement
In most if not all US jurisdictions revenue generation has at least - and generally more - a role in traffic enforcement than does a concern for public safety.
Unfortunately the revenue generated is not going into road/bridge maintenance.

Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: aviationfred on October 03, 2014, 11:59:18 AM
Quote from: TexasDave on October 02, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Maybe we will be seeing more Aussie motorcyclists vacationing in the US of A when they feel the need for speed.  Dave


Posted speed across the Salt Flats in Utah.

80 MPH
(http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o145/aviationfred/IMAG0665-1_zps7519169a.jpg) (http://s119.photobucket.com/user/aviationfred/media/IMAG0665-1_zps7519169a.jpg.html)

Fred
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: racerrad8 on October 03, 2014, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: TexasDave on October 02, 2014, 10:54:35 AM
Maybe we will be seeing more Aussie motorcyclists vacationing in the US of A when they feel the need for speed.  Dave

That was truly the worst part of my trip earlier to Oz, the speed limit. That was followed closely by the heat & humidity...

As I was riding to work yesterday I find myself looking down and seeing where the KPH are and I consistently find myself riding the country roads between 120 & 140kph.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: Bones on October 03, 2014, 03:19:36 PM
The Northern Territory is the only place in Australia were you can legally cut loose and go as fast as you want.
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: movenon on October 03, 2014, 05:07:41 PM
Utah is 80 mph on 1-15 for the length of the state except going through the towns.  Funny, when I went through there last I didn't anyone speeding..  It is great!  Idaho is adopting the same in sections of I 84 to evaluate it.  I have been told on the side that in Utah the "leeway" for speeding tickets has tightend up. 80 means 80 not 85.  I am happy with 80.  Waiting for Nevada to go back to speed limited to road conditions  :lol:.
George
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: Country Joe on October 03, 2014, 05:20:25 PM
I miss the "reasonable and prudent" speed limit in Montana. I think even back then you would have a hard time trying to convince a Montana state trooper that 150 mph is reasonable or prudent :crazy:a lot of fun, I'll grant you that.
Joe
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: aussiefj on October 03, 2014, 06:04:32 PM
Quote from: Burns on October 03, 2014, 11:11:10 AM
Thanks for the great tip! I was gonna go the Dermal route but this sounds like the way to go.
But are two holes needed?  Seems like one would do the trick.
also, maybe threading the hole for a short screw would make this mod a bit more "sano" and would improve its weather-proofing

p.s.  re: traffic enforcement
In most if not all US jurisdictions revenue generation has at least - and generally more - a role in traffic enforcement than does a concern for public safety.
Unfortunately the revenue generated is not going into road/bridge maintenance.


Hi Burns
I think with one hole the race would tend to get skewed in the steering head and jam, a hole either side and tapping it alternately keeps it even as it comes out, but that said I didn't try it with just one so it might work ok. The screw sounds like a neat idea but the silicon works fine.

John
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: ribbert on October 03, 2014, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: the fan on October 03, 2014, 08:58:20 AM
Quote from: ribbert on October 03, 2014, 07:38:10 AM
Quote from: the fan on October 03, 2014, 05:44:35 AM
Quote from: aussiefj on October 03, 2014, 05:01:46 AM
I think you are confusing us with New Zealanders.

There's a difference?

No, just like Americans and Canadians.

Noel

Canadians are polite.

Are you suggesting New Zealanders aren't?
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: Zwartie on October 03, 2014, 08:48:49 PM
Quote from: ribbert on October 03, 2014, 07:55:20 PM
Quote from: the fan on October 03, 2014, 08:58:20 AM
Quote from: ribbert on October 03, 2014, 07:38:10 AM
Quote from: the fan on October 03, 2014, 05:44:35 AM
Quote from: aussiefj on October 03, 2014, 05:01:46 AM
I think you are confusing us with New Zealanders.

There's a difference?

No, just like Americans and Canadians.

Noel

Canadians are polite.

Are you suggesting New Zealanders aren't?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV_041oYDjg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebbh-BF7V5E

Sorry!
Title: Re: 60 second steering head race removal
Post by: aussiefj on October 04, 2014, 02:37:23 AM
Quote from: oldktmdude on October 03, 2014, 07:34:54 AM
   G'day John, I bet when you posted this, you didn't expect it to end up where it has?  As a side note, good idea on the bearing removal.   :i_am_so_happy:  Pete.

G'day Pete, I think we are definitely getting a bit off topic now and the way this is going we could have America and Canada at war by the end of the week, and we haven't had anyone from New Zealand join in yet. I'll add this in case they do then we'll all know what they're talking about.

John