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Xj750 cdi on Fj1200?

Started by Fj1200buggy, July 25, 2013, 03:39:57 PM

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Fj1200buggy

Hi, my fj1200 cdi is broken and someone is offering me a xj750 cdi, Will it work?
Thanks.

fintip

Heh... Not likely, and if so, probably not well--assuming the connector even fits?

That being said, I have seen some crazy CDI swaps work... two cylinder honda dirtbike CDI working fine on a Transalp Vtwin. And the XJ750 was along the same development line and is a Yamaha. I would say it can't hurt to try, but in theory, maybe it could. Probably not much though.

I wouldn't gamble more than $10 on it though; surely it isn't that hard to find a used CDI?
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RichBaker

As long as you connect the right wires together, it should work.... An ignition does the same thing on any engine.  Timing advance curves may be different, though... If you csan find an XJ service manual, it should list that info.
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Fj1200buggy

Its hard to find a used cdi in South-Africa, will the fj1200 cdi be closer to a fjr1300 cdi?

fj1289

Quote from: Fj1200buggy on July 26, 2013, 02:20:51 AM
Its hard to find a used cdi in South-Africa, will the fj1200 cdi be closer to a fjr1300 cdi?

I'd try the XJ CDI before I'd try the FJR piece...does the FJR even have a separate CDI?  I'd assume the ignition control is handled by the ECU controlling the fuel injection.

Definaty search the Internet to get an XJ manual to get the wiring specifics and advance curve characteristics. May need to slot the holes in the FJ backing plate for the ignition to adjust timing for any differences.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

Fj1200buggy

Does anyone have the wiring diagrams, I think its a 1986 without a fuel pump.
Thanks.

JPaganel

Quote from: fj1289 on July 26, 2013, 09:37:27 AM
I'd try the XJ CDI before I'd try the FJR piece...does the FJR even have a separate CDI?  I'd assume the ignition control is handled by the ECU controlling the fuel injection.
There are both carbed and FI XJR1200. They switched to FI about I have never seen an XJR in person (in their infinite wisdom Yamaha has never imported them into either North or South America), but from what I'm told, the carbed ones are very similar.
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Quote from: JPaganel on July 26, 2013, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: fj1289 on July 26, 2013, 09:37:27 AM
I'd try the XJ CDI before I'd try the FJR piece...does the FJR even have a separate CDI?  I'd assume the ignition control is handled by the ECU controlling the fuel injection.
There are both carbed and FI XJR1200. They switched to FI about I have never seen an XJR in person (in their infinite wisdom Yamaha has never imported them into either North or South America), but from what I'm told, the carbed ones are very similar.

I recognise that name from www.xjbikes.com , The XJR1200 didn't get FI,  but the later XJR1300 did. You're getting the XJR and the FJR mixed up.

Fj1200buggy

So, does anyone have any wiring diagrams?

fintip

I got one I can put up later this evening if I remember--post another reply here to draw my attention to it, haha. It's partially colored (hand colored on a computer, that is).
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Fj1200buggy


fintip

I painstakingly put this together from hand by screenshots from multiple pages from a pdf that I found on google. Different ones were taken at different zoom rates. It was tricky because I was on an 11" netbook!

Voila!

(copy and paste the following into a new browser window or tab--they are too big to embed here)

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/8687wiringdiagrambig.png/

http://imageshack.us/a/img24/6427/8687wiringdiagrambigcol.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img35/746/electricalcomponents.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img694/6427/8687wiringdiagrambigcol.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img171/6427/8687wiringdiagrambigcol.png

Also, now posted at fjowners.wikidot.com/electrical, and probably eventually to be added to fjowners.wikidot.com/wiring-diagram and then linked from that page.
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Fj1200buggy

Thanks allot, I really appreciate it.

Fj1200buggy

What does the flasher unit do?

Fj1200buggy

Can not grounding the coils cause no spark/the cdi to fry?