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Started by Vsekvsek, May 20, 2013, 05:43:53 PM

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pdxfj

Quote from: Dan Filetti on May 28, 2013, 11:07:35 PM
The 92 (750 CC) was a capable VFR but it was carbureted.  The Quintessential VFR, in my humble opinion, was the ~98 or 99 800CC.  They have Fuel Injection, and was before Honda decided to introduce VTEC to it.  The latest 1200CC VFR is ugly, and is too far afield from what a VFR is to me -plus it's $16K -$17.5K for a new one -a bit pricey for my tastes. 
Dan

The 98-99 VFR 800 are my favorite years as well.  Last gasp of the wonderful sounding gear driven cams. 

yamaha fj rider

Quote from: Flynt on May 28, 2013, 11:19:50 PM
Quote from: yamaha fj rider on May 28, 2013, 05:10:44 PM
FZ1 would look good next to the FJ then the cafe bike...

I think the FZ and FJ are too close in purpose/capability.  Try a supermotard maybe...

Frank
I do think that that the FZ1 is the modern version of our FJ's. I never understood why Yamaha stopped putting effort into FJ. It would have been so easy for them to put a seventeen inch rear wheel, three and a half inch front wheel, better shock and forks. Guess it was the time of the sport bike and the FJ was yesterdays news.

Kurt     
93 FJ1200
FJ 09
YZ250X I still love 2 strokes
Tenere 700
FJR1300ES

fj11.5

Imo the fjr failed to capture what the fj has,and just dousnt look right, no matter what extra gizmo,s they have, the xjr and fz1 are much closer to the fj,s excellence,  , sorry baldy but I just don't like the fjr,s :biggrin:, too much like a goldwing
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Vsekvsek

Quote from: fj11.5 on May 29, 2013, 05:55:27 PM
Imo the fjr failed to capture what the fj has,and just dousnt look right, no matter what extra gizmo,s they have, the xjr and fz1 are much closer to the fj,s excellence,  , sorry baldy but I just don't like the fjr,s :biggrin:, too much like a goldwing
I agree. Guy i bought fj from bought a concourse1400. He swears its a god bike and is way way better than an fj. Just seems like a fancy goldwing if you ask me. Fj seems like a nice blend of sport and touring. Not to much of oneor the other.
89 fj
09 wr300 husqvarna

baldy3853

Quote from: fj11.5 on May 29, 2013, 05:55:27 PM
Imo the fjr failed to capture what the fj has,and just dousnt look right, no matter what extra gizmo,s they have, the xjr and fz1 are much closer to the fj,s excellence,  , sorry baldy but I just don't like the fjr,s :biggrin:, too much like a goldwing
Nothing like a gold wing...... its actually an FJ but water cooled, fuel injected and most important its SHAFT DRIVE no frigging chain to worry about, and exactly the same weight as the FJ.
Now I seen both these bikes ridden far harder then I'll even attempt and its not how fast the bike will go its the rider, you can be on the fastest bike there is but if you ride like sh@@ everybody will past you!

Me I like my FJR at home its fast enough for me doubles quite well, but I also like coming over too the US and riding my FJ, reminds me when I get home I've actually improved I'm now a greenie, no wastage in air filters, oil filters, only ever changed the plugs 3 times and I have 105000 on the clock  :good2: :good2:
aldy

fj11.5

,Your right about the riding part, I easily  kept up with an st1100 in the twisties on my very pretty cb250n, thought I was doing marvelous till I found out from the other half a dozen blokes on the ride the guy couldn't ride to save himself and was probably holding me up  :biggrin: would scream out of site on the straights   :lol: the other guys used to keep pace and leave him a safe distance behind because he was dangerous,, I think its mainly the look of the fjr that I don't like,  I'm sure they are a brilliant bike, just not for me  :scratch_one-s_head:
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

fintip

Yeah, I'm sure the FJR is fine if that's your cup of tea. I don't want a shaft drive, though, and I like my carbs. And like effie's driver said, it just looks too much like a sporty goldwing.

It's interesting, actually--the FJ divides between two kinds of riders, sport and touring. Fitting, then, that its engine went two directions: XJR and FJR.

By the way, I finally installed that seat latch you mailed to me--brilliant. So glad to have it. When I broke it, I figured I'd never get around to replacing it. Amazing how something so small can bring so much joy.

(And please, if that's something someone's girlfriend here once said, keep it to yourself, yeah?  :rofl2: )
fjowners.wikidot.com

Not everyone understands what a completely rational process this maintenance of a motorcycle is. They think it's some kind of a knack or some kind of affinity for machines in operation. They are right, but the knack is almost purely a process of reason.
-ZAMM

IBA:54952

rktmanfj

Quote from: fintip on May 31, 2013, 12:37:06 PM


It's interesting, actually--the FJ divides between two kinds of riders, sport and touring. Fitting, then, that its engine went two directions: XJR and FJR.


The FJR has a different engine... I'm not sure, but doubtful if it shares any parts at all with the FJ.

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


fintip

Oh, I had no idea. I always assumed that since Doc worked on them and Randy supplied parts for them, they must be related.

I guess they took the name one direction and the engine the other.
fjowners.wikidot.com

Not everyone understands what a completely rational process this maintenance of a motorcycle is. They think it's some kind of a knack or some kind of affinity for machines in operation. They are right, but the knack is almost purely a process of reason.
-ZAMM

IBA:54952

rktmanfj


That's pretty much it.

The FJR is FI, water-cooled, etc... modern.

Randy T
Indy

Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight.
Psalms 144:1

'89 FJ1200
'90 FJ1200
'78 XT500
'88 XT350


JPaganel

Quote from: not a lib on May 31, 2013, 02:55:02 PM

The FJR is FI, water-cooled, etc... modern.

Dunno, I wouldn't necessarily say that water cooling is a sign of modernity. FI, on the other hand...
1993 FJ1200 ABS

1984 FJ600, up on blocks

1986 FJ1200, flaming wreck, repaired and sold
1986 FJ1200, repaired, ridden, sold


I don't want a pickle
I just want to ride my motorcicle

oldktmdude

Quote from: not a lib on May 31, 2013, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: fintip on May 31, 2013, 12:37:06 PM


It's interesting, actually--the FJ divides between two kinds of riders, sport and touring. Fitting, then, that its engine went two directions: XJR and FJR.


The FJR has a different engine... I'm not sure, but doubtful if it shares any parts at all with the FJ.


The only parts that come to mind are the clutch diaphragm spring and maybe other clutch components. Front brake and clutch m/cylinders are other FJR parts that are fairly common on FJ's, due to a condition called moditus.    Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

sean91fj

Hi,

In my opinion i think just ride whatever fits in budget and makes you happy !

I have just purchased my FJ, went for a ride yesterday and loved it, so stoked !!

I have had a fair few bikes both old and new but prefer the older ones, i like to be different and not be one of the new crowd parked at the cafe or wherever.

The only issue i had yesterday was slightly sore ears from the freeway (which the general warned me of).

The FJ has won me over !  :good2:

ribbert

Quote from: sean91fj on May 31, 2013, 09:05:54 PM

The only issue i had yesterday was slightly sore ears from the freeway (which the general warned me of).

The FJ has won me over !  :good2:

Sean, I have the same model (and screen)

Engine mount fix and ear plugs and you can cruise all day at any speed in complete comfort.

You'll notice if you stand on the pegs how acceptable the wind noise is. Some go for smaller screens to keep their head in clean air. However, I like the protection of that screen and use earplugs at open road speeds. Other than the buffeting, those screens offer pretty good protection from wind and rain and you're not holding your head against the wind.
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Zwartie

Quote from: sean91fj on May 31, 2013, 09:05:54 PM

"The only issue i had yesterday was slightly sore ears from the freeway (which the general warned me of)."

The FJ has won me over !  :good2:

Two words - EAR PLUGS. Unless I'm going for a 10 minute ride in town, I always ride with ear plugs. Hearing loss is a gradual process. Riding for extended periods at freeway speeds WILL result in hearing loss. I just got fitted for a custom set of ear plugs/buds that I'm going to use on the trek to Alaska. http://www.protectear.com/all-sport/ Will post my thoughts / feedback once I've gotten some miles on them.

Zwartie
Ben Zwart
London, ON
1992 FJ1200
1977 KZ200