Cracked mirror - should have listened.

[Arnie]

They've got your speed, your name, your address, your shoe size, and they know which side you dress on.  Its very hard to see the unmarked units, or the camera devices no matter how good your mirrors and/or your eyes are.
You just have to find places the LEOs are not if you're going to flout the posted "safety" limits.  (not that I would ever do anything illegal (again))

Arnie

They were 10X the cost (my Emgos were $20 or so), but seeing just one LEO behind me makes them good insurance...  and they have paid off repeatedly this way (I should probably slow down a bit).

Frank

I don't know what sort of technology they have over there but here, by the time they are a fly speck in your mirror or a dot on the horizon, they have already got your speed.

Noel

[Flynt]

by the time they are a fly speck in your mirror or a dot on the horizon, they have already got your speed.

True if you flew past their trap or they have eyes above, but CA requires a verified speed before they'll call it a good kill...  otherwise it is likely to get tossed out in court.  The most common speeding ticket is the trap where you rush into a waiting radar or lidar gun.  Second most common is where you blast past a cop sitting by the road on a onramp...  they need to catch and clock you from behind.  This is the one where a mirror you can see something in makes all the difference.  The other is when you pass an oncoming cop and want to see if they turned around to follow...

Anyway, I encourage free choice and you can choose to run no mirrors for all I care.  I like to see whats behind me and choose to get mirrors to enable that.  You can take another path.

Frank

[Flynt]

What could possibly be the difference between the OEM's and Emgo's that causes one set to buzz and the other to not? Is it a fancy-measurement on the weight? Does nicer glass not vibrate? Or is it better foam inside?

Yes, yes, and yes...  if that's what it takes to make the damn things work.  The actual answer is engineering $$ spent building and testing to get it right as opposed to making it look like some that were done right.  Reverse engineering can be done half-assed just like original work.

You pay postage and you can have my EMGOs...  I added weight progressively to try to make them work...  total waste of fucking time.  You're not going to re-engineer a poorly engineered piece of shit most of the time.  Best to just pay the fair price for the part that includes the engineering required to make a good product.  Even if you can find good knock-offs, you're essentially undermining the value of the engineering included in the original version. 

Good companies make good products in a sustainable way and need to make enough profit to support their business.  I don't see much wrong with that and (mostly) don't buy ripped off shit that bad companies create to fleece their customers.

To be sure this isn't sounding too righteous, I encourage people to do whatever they think best...  hell, I bought the EMGOs in the first place.  But I've learned again and again, you really do get what you pay for in the vast majority of cases.

Frank

[FJSpringy]

2 part answer

1) CBR mirrors for me love em can see past my shoulders and IMHO look pretty good.

2) Traffic police in NSW are deemed higly clabrated experts on everything and judges will accept their "verbal" over anything you may say, no hard feelings, such is life, deal with it and move on.

[ribbert]

by the time they are a fly speck in your mirror or a dot on the horizon, they have already got your speed.

True if you flew past their trap or they have eyes above, but CA requires a verified speed before they'll call it a good kill...  otherwise it is likely to get tossed out in court.  The most common speeding ticket is the trap where you rush into a waiting radar or lidar gun.  Second most common is where you blast past a cop sitting by the road on a onramp...  they need to catch and clock you from behind.  This is the one where a mirror you can see something in makes all the difference.  The other is when you pass an oncoming cop and want to see if they turned around to follow...

Anyway, I encourage free choice and you can choose to run no mirrors for all I care.  I like to see whats behind me and choose to get mirrors to enable that.  You can take another path.

Frank

Lucky you, police needing to pace you in their car went out decades ago here.

Virtually every police car on the road here has radar that will read your speed coming and going from a moving vehicle. Forget steady mirrors, you would need binoculars to identify them before they got within pinging range.
By the time you have identified it as a cop car it's all over, and that's if it's a marked one.
If there are no other vehicles around you and the weather's good they can get a reading up to 3 km's away.

Our government wants nothing but the best for it's citizens and invests heavily in all the latest whizz bang speed detection technology.
We also have point to point cameras that check you average speed over 10Km's or so.

My mirrors are not Emgos, perhaps there's cheap shit and there's cheap shit.

Noel