Manshed Therapy January 20th for Queenslanders

[The General]

  Following a coupla PM`s, we`ve got a bit of "Mens Secret business" happening at my Place Sunday january 20th, from say 9am.

Baldy is going ta show us how ta Synchronise X-Rays Carbies using Darran`s gauges (oz.fj- and he`ll be watchin ta make sure thay don`t get scratched), Ribbet has sent up his MKIII Engine Mount removers (tha one that gets`m just before tha Earth begins ta stop spinning on it`s axis) so we can see how that works, Randy has sent us his emulators and springs etc for a fork upgrade demo and all participants get a free sealmating of their forks on site (curtesey of Harvy), and if we get time there`s a bike waiting ta have it`s valves adjusted.

There`ll be some tucker, a TV and plenty of old Bike magazines, and ya can pick up ya Embroidered shirts already ordered (to save postage). Any new Shirt orders will be ready for ya also. For those attending the Rally it might be a good time ta discuss strategies that ensure "the Ashes" gets retained by Qld on March 9th. Hehe he. (I couldn`t post this till after I knew Ribbert had been to the post office)

So who`s gunna be there (so i know how much coffee, bread & snags ta get). - Be great to meet some of the new guys.
Oh yeah, let me know by PM if ya want to address any particular prob on the bike ya might be on - just ta make sure we got all tha right tools to play with.

[X-Ray]

This sounds great! A few eager hands on deck, some nice tools and we should be able to knock over quite a few jobs that need to be done. Syncing carbs sounds good, not sure when mine were done last, would LOVE to see if these engine mounts are sus as well. I'll leave a couple of the other jobs  for home, (oil cooler and spin on filter etc). If I have the parts in time from Randy I'll bring them in case anyone wants to see them.

The Seal Mate therapy on our forks sounds excellent, one of mine is already crying with joy  (Thanks Harv!)  Will be taking pics of your fork upgrade Doug, that will help me when its my turn to do 'em.

I may have the new chain by then as well, I don't have a chain tool though.

[Klavdy]

You're a good man, Doug and it's a beaut thing you've organised.
Hmmm, pretty sure I've got some specialised FJ tools and even some spare parts left over, they could be donated to the cause.
Things like a steering head bearing removal tool,a big arse hex bit thing to hold down the fork tops, some gaskets, bearings and stuff.
Dunno if I'd be in Australia when it's on but the tools etc can be passed to Baldy.
Hmm, I get around to seeing whats there and make a list.

[The General]

You're a good man, Doug and it's a beaut thing you've organised.
Hmmm, pretty sure I've got some specialised FJ tools and even some spare parts left over, they could be donated to the cause.
Things like a steering head bearing removal tool,a big arse hex bit thing to hold down the fork tops, some gaskets, bearings and stuff.
Dunno if I'd be in Australia when it's on but the tools etc can be passed to Baldy.
Hmm, I get around to seeing whats there and make a list.

You Ripper Klavdy. Especially need that Big Arse Hex Thing and I think someone said I need some tool ta tighten some thingy inside tha bottom of tha forks. I`ll find Baldy 

[fj11.5]

Nice one, that's going to save some work  ,

[oz.fj]

I'll bring my Monkey made fork tool with me just in case..

[roverfj1200]

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need that Big Arse Hex Thing and I think someone said I need some tool ta tighten some thingy inside tha bottom of tha forks.
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Rear wheel nut and a broom handle.....Special tools no but they work....

[baldy3853]

This sounds great! A few eager hands on deck, some nice tools and we should be able to knock over quite a few jobs that need to be done. Syncing carbs sounds good, not sure when mine were done last, would LOVE to see if these engine mounts are sus as well. I'll leave a couple of the other jobs  for home, (oil cooler and spin on filter etc). If I have the parts in time from Randy I'll bring them in case anyone wants to see them.

The Seal Mate therapy on our forks sounds excellent, one of mine is already crying with joy  (Thanks Harv!)  Will be taking pics of your fork upgrade Doug, that will help me when its my turn to do 'em.

I may have the new chain by then as well, I don't have a chain tool though.

Xray
the last time your carbies were synced was when Brett did them and took you for a squirt on his bike, to show you what should happen, that was also the day you started going grey, always wondered if it was the ride on the back of Bretts bike that caused that  
Bretts off that w/e so trying to talk him into coming as well  
Lord Baldy

[X-Ray]

the last time your carbies were synced was when Brett did them and took you for a squirt on his bike, to show you what should happen, that was also the day you started going grey, always wondered if it was the ride on the back of Bretts bike that caused that  
Bretts off that w/e so trying to talk him into coming as well  
Lord Baldy

Ahhhh, correct Doug it was. Jeezuz you've got me gripping my computer seat now thinking about that little "squirt" down the road as pillion on Bretts Beast. I would go a lot better actually riding it myself, as good a rider as Brett is, that scared the crap outta me.  For anyone wondering why, that thing is F A S T, make no mistake about it.

[The General]

Marsh may have to move a copy of this to another thread, but I thought I`d publish a communication with Ribbert i received via PM that I found particularly informative. (got his consent ta copy here) I had asked him for details on his MKIII Extractor and explained my experience with stripping hardened steel bolts and even nuts. (esp if a rattle gun was used). His answer is logical as usual and the solution is in his attention to detail. (genius IMHO) :-

Yes Doug, MkI stripped, on MkII I welded 2 nuts together and it stripped. Unlike a frozen nut or bolt that just needs to be cracked, these things can fight you all the way.
Because of the frequency with which it will be used I saw no point going to any more trouble than required for a tool that would only get used once or twice, so it's a bit crude but worked brilliantly ,if a bit fiddly to use.

Excuse me if I'm telling you anything here that's obvious or you already know.

1. The head has been turned down on an engineers precision bench grinder to catch the collar but pass through the bush.
2. The socket, I think I used 3/4 AF, puts the load on the bush NOT the crankcase it's housed in.
3. I used an assortment of 1/2" drive sockets, big nuts and washers.  Because I couldn't get a fully threaded bolt I did have to remove it a couple of      times to add to the stack when I ran out of thread.
4. It's important to make sure whatever you use as spaces have good contact so one doesn't disappear inside the other under load.
5. The long nut and course thread allows the load to spread over a greater surface and less prone to stripping.
6. Make sure a substantial amount of the nut is in contact before loading up too much or you lose the benefit of the long nut.

Because of the loose and multiple nature of the spacers you need to make sure they are all lined up and square and the head of the bolt is centralised and not going to catch the bush when you nip up the tension.
The vice grip marks are from bottoming out the nut on the last bit and being too lazy to add another spacer, at that point it was almost out and I knocked it the rest of the way with a hammer and drift without much effort but then had to loosen the nut.
I would imagine a lot less force would be required if a second set of hands with a brass mallet or drift was hitting (not too hard) the head of the bolt to help break the seal.
My rattle gun did nothing. I had a long length of pipe over my long 1/2" drive socket bar, which I was expecting to be the weak link and break.
I work on old cars and loosening parts that have been slowly joining together for the last 90 years is something I do often, but this was up there with the worst of them. Not being able to use heat made it more difficult.
One option I considered was putting a bolt or piece of rod through the collar and mig weld the protruding end to heat up the bolt and therefore the collar. The expansion and contraction you get from this is one of my favourites, but normally done with an oxy.
The second bike was much easier.
The bolt will be winging its way to you by the end of the day.

Good luck

Noel


The length of the Nut particularly made the penny drop for dimwit me. Can`t wait ta play with it on Jan 20th.  Thanks again Noel,  Doug

[FJSpringy]

those long nuts, number 5, I have a few of them, they in my case are used in the 1950's victa (yes the lawn mower) outboards that I collect and restore. They take all the strain as the little bugga's are direct drive.

Victa 18's and Victa outboards are almost more fun than an FJ

[oz.fj]

those long nuts, number 5, I have a few of them, they in my case are used in the 1950's victa (yes the lawn mower) outboards that I collect and restore. They take all the strain as the little bugga's are direct drive.

Victa 18's and Victa outboards are almost more fun than an FJ

I too have a stack of number 5s as they appear to be connector nuts for cyclone rods.
I use them to tie houses down, to stop  them blowing away.
Let me know if required
Darran

[The General]

  Following a coupla PM`s, we`ve got a bit of "Mens Secret business" happening at my Place Sunday january 20th, from say 9am.

Baldy is going ta show us how ta Synchronise X-Rays Carbies using Darran`s gauges (oz.fj- and he`ll be watchin ta make sure thay don`t get scratched), Ribbet has sent up his MKIII Engine Mount removers (tha one that gets`m just before tha Earth begins ta stop spinning on it`s axis) so we can see how that works, Randy has sent us his emulators and springs etc for a fork upgrade demo and all participants get a free sealmating of their forks on site (curtesey of Harvy), and if we get time there`s a bike waiting ta have it`s valves adjusted.

There`ll be some tucker, a TV and plenty of old Bike magazines, and ya can pick up ya Embroidered shirts already ordered (to save postage). Any new Shirt orders will be ready for ya also. For those attending the Rally it might be a good time ta discuss strategies that ensure "the Ashes" gets retained by Qld on March 9th. Hehe he. (I couldn`t post this till after I knew Ribbert had been to the post office)

So who`s gunna be there (so i know how much coffee, bread & snags ta get). - Be great to meet some of the new guys.
Oh yeah, let me know by PM if ya want to address any particular prob on the bike ya might be on - just ta make sure we got all tha right tools to play with.

Would you believe there`s a total of 11 at this stage coming along for manshed business. (Most Invitations accepted via PM) Got 5 days ta find a big steel pipe for tha engine mounts, Big arse Industrial Fan and ta set up an overhead petrol supply. (Baldy, I haven`t included Brett in those numbers yet? Even got some Knitting magazines ta make sure ya don`t get bored!) 

[baldy3853]

  Following a coupla PM`s, we`ve got a bit of "Mens Secret business" happening at my Place Sunday january 20th, from say 9am.

Baldy is going ta show us how ta Synchronise X-Rays Carbies using Darran`s gauges (oz.fj- and he`ll be watchin ta make sure thay don`t get scratched), Ribbet has sent up his MKIII Engine Mount removers (tha one that gets`m just before tha Earth begins ta stop spinning on it`s axis) so we can see how that works, Randy has sent us his emulators and springs etc for a fork upgrade demo and all participants get a free sealmating of their forks on site (curtesey of Harvy), and if we get time there`s a bike waiting ta have it`s valves adjusted.

There`ll be some tucker, a TV and plenty of old Bike magazines, and ya can pick up ya Embroidered shirts already ordered (to save postage). Any new Shirt orders will be ready for ya also. For those attending the Rally it might be a good time ta discuss strategies that ensure "the Ashes" gets retained by Qld on March 9th. Hehe he. (I couldn`t post this till after I knew Ribbert had been to the post office)

So who`s gunna be there (so i know how much coffee, bread & snags ta get). - Be great to meet some of the new guys.
Oh yeah, let me know by PM if ya want to address any particular prob on the bike ya might be on - just ta make sure we got all tha right tools to play with.

Would you believe there`s a total of 11 at this stage coming along for manshed business. (Most Invitations accepted via PM) Got 5 days ta find a big steel pipe for tha engine mounts, Big arse Industrial Fan and ta set up an overhead petrol supply. (Baldy, I haven`t included Brett in those numbers yet? Even got some Knitting magazines ta make sure ya don`t get bored!) 

No Brett won't be coming has someone over from Perth Wetern Australia!!
Me Sychronise Carbies  maybe 
Im going to show you how to do the engine mounts  as I originally told everyone how to get this done!! David. R perfected it 

X Ray Harvy and anyone else who want to meet me @ BP Burpengary at 7am on Sunday to ride to Generals place?
XRay bring the spin on adapter, get yourself a filter for it we will fit that as well!!
Oh and Doug we won't be doing any shims on any of the bikes that are ridden to the shed as they have to be cold!! ie not ridden for @ least 24hrs!!
Baldy

[X-Ray]

Yep, sounds good, ummmm 7.00am?? Wha??. Early to bed Sat nite for me then

I was thinking of doing the spin on Filter mod that day as well Doug, but then I have to drop the oil again to do the oil cooler mod at home. (going to do some engine cleaning/painting and retouch the headers while they are off for oil cooler).  I'll have to get some oil before the weekend, got the spin on filter.  I'm bringing the oil cooler kit etc for anyone that wants to see it as well,  

I'm hoping the new chain turns up from England before the weekend,