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OIL (i know)...

Started by backstreetheros, November 08, 2012, 01:48:20 PM

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backstreetheros

right simple one here...
who uses synthetic oil?
anyone had issues with synthetic oil?
reason is... i've bought castrol power 1 10w-40 and don't want to use it if its crap.
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FJmonkey

I switched from dino to synth. Had some hard shifting problems and sticking plates for a little while. Then it all smoothed out and seems normal. Others have had bigger issues and switched back. I think the results vary. But now that you posted an oil thread you will never get the Genie back in the bottle... :dash2: :dash2:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

backstreetheros

i just wanted some feedback on synthetic in fj motors. serious feedback... not people saying it leaks out and makes you fall over alot.
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DoD#663

When my V45 Honda Saber got a cracked valve at 100K miles, the mechanic who opened it up to replace the valve was startled that the bearings showed no signs of wear. He asked me what I had been doing, and I told him that I had been using Syntec deliberately.

He said he was sold on synthetic from that point on.

I'm using Mobile-1 right now, just because of availability, but I choose to use only synthetic in bikes. I have never had a problem with slipping clutches and such myself.

I've been using synthetic in my FJ since I got it, 17 years ago. It's running beautifully.

Does that answer your question about hard facts?  :good2:

For far more than you ever wanted to know, there's the Rec.Motorcycles Oil FAQ (and someone archived the rest of the FAQs too! Hoorah!)

http://herohog.com/DoD/

http://herohog.com/DoD/oilfaq.txt
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FJmonkey

Well I was leaking oil, but I had that before I switched. No issues in my FJ with Full Synth.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

backstreetheros

you couldnt have put it much clearer... thanks.
good to hear you've been running it a long time and its still good...
when i pulled the old oil filter and casing to fit the spin on filter adapter and new filter i was pretty shocked to see the filter and oil both looked brand new!!
maybe this motor was actually looked after... all the old plugs seemed to be quite equil in colour too.
i have castrol magnatec for my turbo system too but not a great deal of magnetic parts in my copper lines, aluminum turbo and brass oil pump  :rofl2:
will be interesting to see WHERE the oil leaks from when its all back together...
i've got a bit of an issue with the oil cooler hoses at the moment...
i have a male an-10 union on the top of my oil cooler and male unions in the oil cooler hoses... shouldnt these be female?
please dont tell me these two fittings just butt together to form a seal? (i've not worked with oil coolers or fittings before)
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aviationfred

I have only had my FJ a short time. Not knowing what the PO had put in the engine, or how long the oil had been used. I installed the spin on adaptor, Wix filter from Randy, and used Repsol oil basically for a flush over 1500 miles. The clutch started slipping under hard acceleration, installed a new clutch and went with Royal Purple MaxCycle oil and a Royal Purple spin on filter. After about 1000 miles, I have not noticed any clutch issues or leakage problems.

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

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backstreetheros

this is my issue...
i need to connect this...


to this...


two male unions surely never just bolt together?!
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backstreetheros

i bought these two hopefully use two of them for my an-6 engine connections to an-10 oil cooler connections...
no idea what thread they are or what fittings i use to connect them together... i can't seem to find female (socket instead of ball) union fittings?
anyone help me on this?!
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racerrad8

You need to be sourcing JIC fittings. That is the equivalent to the A/N fitting sizing and the -6 & -10 sizing.

Also, since you are running a turbo, I would recommend synthetic oil.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

backstreetheros

right i'm confused now...
can you tell me specifically what fitting i need to get onto your adapter randy?
i clearly dont know the correct wording when it comes to an and jic fittings
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racerrad8

Okay, the oil filter adapter is not designed for use with anything but an oil filter with 20x1.5mm thread pitch.

The oil pan fittings are -6 A/N-JIC sizing which is different than standard pipe threads.

The fittings you have in your post, that I can see the inside is a ball fitting which in the US is 90% of the time pipe thread.

So, you need -10 female fittings for the cooler to fit the hose you have, but where re you planning to hook that to the engine, at the -6 oil pan fitting?

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

backstreetheros

i've already completed your spin on filter conversion. no problems atall.
i will be connecting these to your oil pan connections and to the oil cooler pictured.
the hoses are 1/2" bsp thread. can't measure the pitch of the union though.
i dont know what size this is in oil cooler tech speak.
cheers for your help randy.
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racerrad8

Quote from: backstreetheros on November 08, 2012, 04:37:21 PM

i will be connecting these to your oil pan connections and to the oil cooler pictured.
the hoses are 1/2" bsp thread. can't measure the pitch of the union though.
i dont know what size this is in oil cooler tech speak.
cheers for your help randy.

Okay, you are going to have to get A/N-JIC -6 fitting for the oil pan fittings and -10 for the oil cooler. If you have 1/2 fittings they will not work.

My recommendation is to use -6 hose from the pan fittings to the cooler, buy a -6 to -10 adapter and hook the cooler up to the smaller hoses. You need the smaller hoses to maintain some pressure in the lines. I would also feed the hot oil into the bottom of the cooler and push it up through the cooler out the top fitting.

Here is a A/N-JIC chart for your reference; http://fragolaperformancesystems.com/3techinfo/techinfo.html

You need fitting like these in the photo of the oil cooler kit on my website.

Most industrial hose manufactures will be able to help you using the aforementioned fittings.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

backstreetheros

ok heres me thinking i need maximum flow hence the huge hoses but didnt think about oil pressure!
i will have to take measurements and get my local engineering shop to make me some up.
my 1/2 hoses are up for grabs if anyone needs them?
thanks again for your help randy. one more question...
when your sat on the bike, which pan fittig is the flow from the engine and which is return from the oil cooler?
i need to get on with this so i can continue with progress.
i also have the stadard oil filter casing and bolt if anyone needs one?
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