eBay Auction Link Posting Discussion

[ssuv93]

If someone is getting beat out on their bid for FZR wheels, maybe those wheels are worth more than they were willing to spend, and that's too damn bad for someone only willing to spend under fifty bucks.
     If you got an FJ because you thought parts were gonna be cheap, guess what bucko, you're outta luck.

Ratchet_72, Sorry, have to respond to you.  I am glad that you can afford to pay top dollar on everything.  I can't.  I survive on social security disability.  I could barely afford to buy my fj.  It took three years to save the money.  It sounds like you may think that I should not even have bought it, if I cant afford to pay top prices for parts.  When I bought the fj, it needed tires.  I searched and bought a Bridgestone for the rear when I could afford it.  I mounted it my self along with installing fork seals and redoing the carbs.  I could not afford to send it out.  I rode for a couple of weeks, but I needed a new front tire to get the bike inspected.  I found a new matching tire on ebay for $40 including shipping.  If I did not get that tire for that price, bike would be collecting dust for the past 6 weeks.  I thought people in groups like this one look out for one another.  I think that most do here.  I know that I am being rude about this, but your comment hit home with me.

If you got an FJ because you thought parts were gonna be cheap, guess what bucko, you're outta luck.

I bought my fj to enjoy, so I feel lucky to have it.  Bucko.

  Again, an eBay powerseller.

[Ratchet_72]

Maybe you should have read my other postings where I'M GIVING PARTS AWAY FOR FREE.  Money is also tight with me, hell I'm out of work. Your tire situation sounds JUST like mine, I've got a $40 Shinko on the front that I love, and if I had the money to spend on a more expensive tire I may never have given it a shot.  But to prohibit ebay postings to protect a buyer may hurt a seller who may also be a member of this same forum.
Parts for this bike can border on the ridiculous and I don't believe its the fault of this forum. It just happens to be a great bike that  A LOT of people want to keep on the road.

[FJ Flyer]

This would probably be a good reason to perhaps have an FJ FAQ area, where, along with introductions, etc, new members would be encouraged to read. Other forums use this to help eliminate the question with obvious answers.  It could have, among other things, Marsh's general semi-policy about the posting of ebay links, prefaced with a statement like "if you're looking for parts, check ebay - and check it often".  If someone is really looking hard for a part, they need to make an effort.  Post a request for the part, if someone in the group has the part, they are usually willing to let it go for a reasonable price.  If no one responds, its up to you to do some searching. 

Myself, I hate getting into a bidding war.  It would suck to find out two members screwed each other over and a seller is laughing all the way to his paypal account.

[mikeholzer]

It would suck to find out two members screwed each other over and a seller is laughing all the way to his paypal account.

Boy, you said it. I don't necessarily think everybody should "check in" when they want to bid on something, but I'd hate to be going to war over a set of used carbs or some plastic bits if it's not absolutely necessary.

My $.27

[the fan]

The best way to avoid getting screwed is to sut down and ask yourself just how much you are willing to pay for the item, wait until the last minute on the item and bid the full amount by proxy. If it goes for more than you were willing to pay, then someone else wanted it more. simple really.

I never understood the point of bidding early myself.

If you are not willing, or can not afford an Item move on. (I have been unemployed since February so I know what it means to be a little tight)

[Dan Filetti]

The best way to avoid getting screwed is to sut down and ask yourself just how much you are willing to pay for the item, wait until the last minute on the item and bid the full amount by proxy. If it goes for more than you were willing to pay, then someone else wanted it more. simple really.

I never understood the point of bidding early myself.

If you are not willing, or can not afford an Item move on. (I have been unemployed since February so I know what it means to be a little tight)

Here Here! 

Bid what your willing to pay for an item, if it goes for more, then yup, someone else wanted it more.  My philosophy exactly.  I use bidnip and I do not even check in until after the auction is over, keeping me from being tempted to get emotional about an item and paying too much. 

I am of the school of thought that indicates that interesting parts etc. should be posted here.  It may be that someone may see it and say, "yeah hey -I'd like one of those!" 

Alternatively, if you want a part, or know someone that is specifically interested in a particular part you have just spotted, then private message them, or quietly bid on the item as above without posting.  Translation: post an interesting part out if your not interested or do not know of someone who is. 

The alternative is, it may go to some non-forum puke, when in fact someone here, who may have bought it, but does not actively troll ebay, did not look for it...  That's the fellowship nature of it -seems to me.

I would not be offended if I was mildly interested in a part, that was posted out here, and someone chimed in that they have dire need for the thing, and would really not get into a bidding war fellow listers.  I'd back off.  If I was really interested, I figure I'd post out a 'may the best man win' post to give someone a heads up -someone will win it -hopefully it's one of us...

My $0.02

Dan

[higbonzo]

I don't know if this will put things into perspective, but there are 349 registered member on this site, the highest amount of members ever on at one time was 22, which was nearly broken today with 21 members on at one time.  Now, there are thousands of FJ's out there and running around.  The truth is, yes you may end up bidding against another member, but if you can't handle some clean competition with your buddies then you have your own set of issues.  Furthermore,  the likely hood this group has the only people bidding on FJ or FZR parts are slim and none.  I understand many of us do not have the same means as others, and we may not be able to improve our situation by no fault of our own, but the bottom line we live in a free enterprise system, and an item will bring what the market will bare on any given day.  Life is not fair, and we can not all be winners, but without losers there would be winners.

Just make a 3rd party topic for Ebay, craiglist, motorcycle trader, etc...  Obviously if I am watching something on ebay that I am going to bid on, I won't post it the topic, and I expect the same from the members around me.  But if it should come up in the topic section, I can always make it known that I was really interested in the item and let you all know.  From there I can't do much.  There may be a member that has been as desperately seeking the item as myself and from there may the best man/woman win.  Oh, and don't be surprised if neither of us win because there are, like I said, thousands of other FJ riders.

Later.......   

[mikeholzer]

Well said. 

[TRoy]

  Life is not fair, and we can not all be winners, but without losers there would be winners.

......Which brings us to Rally Rule # 3 ~ there are no winners here, we are all losers   

[simi_ed]

  Life is not fair, and we can not all be winners, but without losers there would be winners.

......Which brings us to Rally Rule # 3 ~ there are no winners here, we are all losers   

Amen!

[andyoutandabout]

Crikey - what a juicy topic. I go with Mark O and Higbonzo.
1) U sell, u can advertise because u know, we know, what it's worth.
2) A PM to those really in need of a bit is right neighbourly as well. Especially if the members bike is off the road without the particular bit.

But for some bits the market is just going to decide and that's the capitalist pig system we all live in with out exception or choice. Yes brothers and sisters unite and march unto the capitol and smash the fascist regime etc etc etc. But really the systems not so bad - it's made all these lovely stretches of tarmac on which our wheels roll free (ish). It's probably already occurred that to members from the group have been in competition over a part.

Anywho besides the point - with regard to posting links, Mark has the best reasoning I think. If you have heartfelt purpose in helping, then surely this is in line with the core ethos of the group.

Andy French

[simi_ed]

OK folks, here's a prime example of Dan's philosophy at work, eBay auction 190329987071> I've been looking for a set of flat-slides for about 2.5 years.  But still, this went way over my budget, and no matter who got them, it's outta my price range, period.  No FCR's today, but tomorrow's another day ...

Is this thing now dead?  After several days, it's a dead heat in the polling. 
My 2¢

[ssuv93]

Hello all.  I think that we need to start a new post that will generate less controversy and emotion.  I suggest: Obama's health care, the stimulus bill, pros and cons of republicans vs democrats, or the 2000 presidential election to name a few.  What say you, members?

[Marsh White]

Nah...I'll pass on those topics myself!!!

I wanted to start a discussion on the topic...and it has been a GOOD discussion with MANY valid points from all sides.  Now that the topic has been formally addressed - I'm confident everything will work itself out in the end.  This is a self-policing forum for the most part; I like that.  No policies or rules needed.  I'm a firm believer that everything works out in the end!

There is, and never was going to be, any formal resolution.  The fact that we had a discussion IS the resolution!  Deep...I know...

[the fan]

Nah...I'll pass on those topics myself!!!

I wanted to start a discussion on the topic...and it has been a GOOD discussion with MANY valid points from all sides.  Now that the topic has been formally addressed - I'm confident everything will work itself out in the end.  This is a self-policing forum for the most part; I like that.  No policies or rules needed.  I'm a firm believer that everything works out in the end!

There is, and never was going to be, any formal resolution.  The fact that we had a discussion IS the resolution!  Deep...I know...

So by that little comment we can assume Republican?