What to do first?

[fj11.5]

as i  have 2 84,s no dog bones, f4i bolts up easily, ,  and an 88 f4i shock needs mods, , i think your 86 should be set up like the 84,s? ? and you should only need a bushing,  or bearing/s for the bottom mount,  but someone here that knows more than me should have info you need about the 86 ,, cheers rod, ,, or post a pic of the lower mounts for your shock

[keand3]

as i  have 2 84,s no dog bones, f4i bolts up easily, ,  and an 88 f4i shock needs mods, , i think your 86 should be set up like the 84,s? ? and you should only need a bushing,  or bearing/s for the bottom mount,  but someone here that knows more than me should have info you need about the 86 ,, cheers rod, ,, or post a pic of the lower mounts for your shock

If it's only some bearings and bushing that's needed to fit the F4i shock, then I'm all in
Would rather had wait for Randy's shock to be available instead of having manufacture bits and pisces to make this shock fit.

88 shocks need mods you say, is there a specific yearmodel I should go for? The donorbike is an 06 I think, not sure.

Cheers

[keand3]

Here's a picture of the shock mount you asked for. It's not a good picture I'm afraid. I could take a new one later today if you want.
Oh, by the way.. The dirt you see covering the upper left corner, were there is shadow, that's is what everything in front of the rear wheel was like... A bitch to get clean! So sometimes I think to my self, why the hell did I start doing it in the first place?  

Cheers

Ken

[WhiteBeard]

Hey Ken,

a tip I learned from a British guy on YouTube, try spraying the shit out of the dirty parts with WD-40 and using a toothbrush or soft brush to get the worst away.
Then, when you've gotten the worst off, you go ahead with degreasers and all that jazz. 
Works like a charm!

[keand3]

Thanks for the tip, and I do think we have seen the same video (Drivenandridden or something)

Allthoug I tried WD-40 (works great by the way) and brushes, oil and water based degreasers it still is a bitch to clean  
I haven't power washed it yet, since is been to cold to wash it thoroughly.. But the time for that will come. Hopefully soon.

Cheers
Ken

[ribbert]

Hey Ken,

a tip I learned from a British guy on YouTube, try spraying the shit out of the dirty parts with WD-40 and using a toothbrush or soft brush to get the worst away.
Then, when you've gotten the worst off, you go ahead with degreasers and all that jazz. 
Works like a charm!

This idea of using WD40 as a degreaser seems to have taken on a life of its own from one YouTube clip. It might work but you DON'T need it. At $50 / 4ltr bottle and stupidly expensive by the spray can if you are going to use it for cleaning.
All you need is kero and this, a "parts wash brush" They are used the world over in workshops because they work, and it wouldn't matter which country you bought one in, it would be exactly the same. Just the right stiffness in the bristles and just the right size. I have a dozen or so brushes I use for cleaning vehicle parts, and this one does 99.9% of the work. (the toothbrush is for scale)




You may as well use dental floss as a toothbrush on that job.
Even cleaning, like any other job on the bike, is easier with the right tools.
I have just had my rear suspension out and cleaned all the crud off the inside of the sprocket cover. Kero and parts brush, everything spanking clean in 10 mins, and you get to re use the kero over and over.

I can't even contemplate how hard you are making it for yourself doing it this way.

If you are doing it in-situ place a dish of kero under the area you are cleaning, slosh kero all over it with the brush, keep it wet (most of it is dripping back into the dish) and work it vigorously with the parts brush.  It helps if you scratch away any thick build up with a screw driver first.

Noel

[keand3]

Thanks Noel.
Yes i do see your point and i after a few  times of cleaning,  i figured out this must be the hard way

I do have bought the karosin, yesterday in fact, and will get a hold of a brush like yours.
I mean the area will always get dirty, and there is no reasons for cleaning it the hard way.

Thanks for the tips

[keand3]

Were putting on the slave master clutch today when one if the bolts broke whene screwing it back on place.

Any idea how to get the rest out without damaging the threads?

[FJmonkey]

Any idea how to get the rest out without damaging the threads?

Reverse drill bits. The drill has to run backwards, and when the bit catches it will drive the bolt out some of the time. Is any of the bolt sticking out? If so then try to grab it with Vice grips or locking pliers. Or possibly slot it and use a hammer driven impact driver. You can also apply your favorite thread breaking solvent to soak in over night. I have heard that acetone and ATF (50/50) works really well. Best of luck to you.

[keand3]

Thanks for the tip Mark. I don't have a revers drill bits and will get one tomorrow.
Will take of sprocket cover and slave cylinder off later to day if time lets me.

I will be replacing all the bolts though

[FJmonkey]

Thanks for the tip Mark. I don't have a revers drill bits and will get one tomorrow.
Will take of sprocket cover and slave cylinder off later to day if time lets me.

I will be replacing all the bolts though

While you are out pick up an Easy-Out kit. If the reverse drill bit only drills a hole then the Easy-Out can bite into the bolt and twist out the offending fastener. If you have room you might also be able to use a small sharp chisel and tap the bolt out. The sharp blows from the hammer help brake things loose.

[keand3]

I just briefly look over their on-line catalogue, and it looks like the got all kinds of variations of the easy-out kit. Just have to see what would fit.
The bolt is fairly small and can be a hazel to deal with.

It's the bolt listed as nr. 29
http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1986/FJ1200S/CLUTCH/parts.html

[keand3]

Broke off bolt update:
Well... I tried the "Easy-Out" kit with no luck... Yet. I will try again tomorrow.. I do have new SS bolt laying in a bag waiting to be mounted... Why didn't I just replace them when I was screwing it back on? 
Learning by misstake I guess 

Pulled of my carbs and gave them a good cleaning today. O'boy do the look different and are now mounted back on the bike eagerly awaiting the new airfilters from RPM 

Cheers

[keand3]

Okey, didn't get to the store yesterday so the easy-out kit will have to wait until tomorrow.
I did however drill some pieces of the remaining bolt..
There is no way it will come out other then with the easy-out kit, or drilling it to pieces all the way through!

I am however a bit concerned that some of the thread might have been damage.. I cant really see if they have, but I am expecting it..

Any suggestions?
I know I can drill new threads, and it is a possability, but wouldn't that just make the hole bigger? Then I would have to expand the holes on both sprocket cover the slave cylinder..

The slave cylinder would probably hold more then enough with just the two bolts, but it will annoy me for ever knowing that one bolt would bee missing!


Cheers.
Ken

[craigo]

Use a tap the same size as the damaged bolt and see if you can dress the threads so it will hold. If that doesn't work then the next step is drill a larger hole and use Helicoils.

CraigO