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Carb syncing question

Started by mich1jon, September 28, 2012, 09:14:27 PM

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Antonn3

if I recall correctly, from an article I read...... you can use small tie wraps cinched up on each hose ...

Tony

SlowOldGuy

When I had a set of gauges, I used small hose clamps and wire nuts to constrict the vacuum lines and provide damping.  However, for $30 more the Morgan Carbtune is a much better solution.

DavidR.

fj11.5

just go to a pet store and buy 4 fish tank pump valves , same thing as fitted to my synch gauges but much cheaper
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Pat Conlon

Quote from: fj11.5 on September 30, 2012, 02:46:42 AM
just go to a pet store and buy 4 fish tank pump valves , same thing as fitted to my synch gauges but much cheaper

So, I gotta ask...how do you calibrate the air valves? How do you know how far to open or close them?
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJmonkey

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 30, 2012, 08:23:33 PM
So, I gotta ask...how do you calibrate the air valves? How do you know how far to open or close them?
Pat, you Non-conformist!!! Rebel!!! Anarchist!!!!  :ireful:

Ok, how the hell do you set the fish valves??? More buffer/restriction from one or more will alter how it looks and behaves according to to the other vacuum tubes.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Arnie

You don't "calibrate" them.  Their whole purpose is to damp the wild swings of the needles or fluid column.  So, you turn them in just enough to minimize (not stop) the movement.

Arnie

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 30, 2012, 08:23:33 PM
Quote from: fj11.5 on September 30, 2012, 02:46:42 AM
just go to a pet store and buy 4 fish tank pump valves , same thing as fitted to my synch gauges but much cheaper

So, I gotta ask...how do you calibrate the air valves? How do you know how far to open or close them?

Flynt

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 30, 2012, 08:23:33 PM
How do you know how far to open or close them?

Mine are like Randy's offering.  You close the valves down to control the range of the needle vibration.  At full shut they don't move obviously.  Open a little and they move a little.  When you have them open the right amount, the needles are bouncing minimally and all needles are moving rapidly up and down the range as you blip the throttle.  Hard to describe, but works easily and no advanced skills required.  Don't know a thing about the Morgan however.  Sounds like it damps the pulsing with weighted rods?

Frank
There's plenty of time for sleep in the grave...

fj11.5

thanks arnie, that's exactly how they work, at least someone is thinking outside the box
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Pat Conlon

Ok, gotcha. The Morgan has small inline jets you place in the clear tubing at the prescribed distance to the unit.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

fj11.5

I have a set of gauges like rpm sell, , same type of valves fitted as the fish tank pump type , as I have both types to compare them ,, also have a motion pro think they are the same as Morgan carb tune , with the tapered screw to dampen / slow down vaccume
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

mich1jon

Excellent feedback! The extra $30 would have been worth it (I'll have to read Amazon's return policy) but it sounds like I'm probably about to increase my knowledge on vacuum dampening.
"You're not lost if you don't care where you are."

'86 FJ1200
'06 XR200R

SlowOldGuy

Here's you first lesson (everyone else pay attention also).

DampENing means to wet something.

Damping means to slow something down.

DavidR.

squidley63

Quote from: SlowOldGuy on October 03, 2012, 09:47:44 AM
Here's you first lesson (everyone else pay attention also).

DampENing means to wet something.

Damping means to slow something down.

DavidR.

lol that is funny and true :)

andyb

Quote from: SlowOldGuy on October 03, 2012, 09:47:44 AM
Here's you first lesson (everyone else pay attention also).

DampENing means to wet something.

Damping means to slow something down.

DavidR.

Here's your first lesson.

Your ends with the letter "r". 

:)


fj11.5

unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne