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Started by FJmonkey, September 22, 2012, 10:34:02 AM

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FJmonkey

September 22, 2012, 10:34:02 AM
Any one near Chino Ca? I might need a place to park my stalled 86 til I can pick it up later today.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Pat Conlon

#1
September 22, 2012, 10:44:16 AM
Paul Lawson lives off of Mountain Ave, want me to give him a call?
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJmonkey

#2
September 22, 2012, 11:11:07 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2012, 10:44:16 AM
Paul Lawson lives off of Mountain Ave, want me to give him a call?
Pat, thanks, looks like AAA will take me home, like paying for insurance and hoping you never need it.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

FJmonkey

#3
September 22, 2012, 01:05:22 PM
I am finally moving again, Unfortunatly on a flat bed. Twice in two rides it would not start, and this time after it acted like the fuel cut out on the freeway. Opening the cap made no difference. On the last ride it was just a starting problem, once started it ran like stink with zero issues. Maybe time for some upgrades, 4 brush starter, Uni pods, hotter ignition, get Randy to clean and rejet the carbs, SST fastener kit. Lithium battery, did I miss anything?
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

racerrad8

#4
September 22, 2012, 01:08:54 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on September 22, 2012, 01:05:22 PM
...did I miss anything?

You could just have AAA drop it off here...

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

FJmonkey

#5
September 22, 2012, 01:42:42 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on September 22, 2012, 01:08:54 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on September 22, 2012, 01:05:22 PM
...did I miss anything?

You could just have AAA drop it off here...

Randy - RPM
Too late, already home, but I like your thinking..... If I get this sorted I will up there on the 6th.

Put the key in, give it some choke, and she fired right up..... How in the hell am I gonna find the cause if it starts working again????

Let's see, won't start hot, engine turns over, throttle open just a slight crack (normally works like a charm) nothing but a hot starter motor and dead battery. Wait 30+ minutes (ride home on a flatbed), some choke, still dead battery and the engine fires up by the third rotation. Flooded? The carbs had just run out of fuel, or at least the bike acted that way. I guess I need start with the basics and make sure the simple/easy to check stuff is kosher..... Then work my up if the issue continues. Oh, yea, I forgot... Rip the F%#G flappers out this time instead of just cleaning them.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Pat Conlon

#6
September 22, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Mark, that happened to me on my '84. Freeway riding, started stumbling and ran out of gas with a 3/4 tank

So I lifted the tank:
1st to check: My fuel line was routed correctly so I know that's not the issue....A pinched fuel line is common.

Then it must be petcock related.

2nd to check:  the petcock vacuum line...nice and tight, no leaks....What to do?

I just turned the petcock lever to prime and she started right up, ran fine all the way home.

The diaphragm in the petcock assembly was (intermittently) not holding a vacuum, not surprising for a 25 year old piece of rubber located in the hottest area of the bike.

A new petcock later and all is well.... Cheers laddie, glad you are home and safe.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJmonkey

#7
September 22, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
So I lifted the tank:
1st to check: My fuel line was routed correctly so I know that's not the issue....A pinched fuel line is common.

Then it must be petcock related.

No fuel related issues on my last two rides and I have not had the tank off. Hard to think I have a kinked/pinched line.

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2012, 02:10:57 PM

2nd to check:  the petcock vacuum line...nice and tight, no leaks....What to do?

I just turned the petcock lever to prime and she started right up, ran fine all the way home.

I have not checked the vacuum function in a few years, guess I will pull the tank, suck on my petcock and see what happens.  :bomb:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Pat Conlon

#8
September 22, 2012, 04:31:47 PM
Set it to prime and see what happens.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

racerrad8

#9
September 22, 2012, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2012, 04:31:47 PM
Set it to prime and see what happens.

He has no prime, he has an 86...

Maybe try reserve for the next ride.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

FJmonkey

#10
September 22, 2012, 05:11:06 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on September 22, 2012, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2012, 04:31:47 PM
Set it to prime and see what happens.

He has no prime, he has an 86...

Maybe try reserve for the next ride.

Randy - RPM
Tried reserve on the side of the road with traffic zipping by. Tested the vacuum on the petcock, it works with little vacuum, way less than sucking a milkshake up a large McD's straw.... I am gonna write that one off. Cleaned the air filter even though I can see a weak flash light shine through it. Another short ride tomorrow closer to home to get a better feel of what is failing and how to fix it. Gotta love these old bikes, too much newer and you need a PHD and a super computer to tell you what the "Check whatever" light means....
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

Pat Conlon

#11
September 22, 2012, 06:21:38 PM
Ok, I thought it was a '85....all those ambulances look the same....woooo woooo woooo.

Maybe a "superior " 84/85 petcock is in order?
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

FJmonkey

#12
September 22, 2012, 06:44:43 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 22, 2012, 06:21:38 PM
Ok, I thought it was a '85....all those ambulances look the same....woooo woooo woooo.

Maybe a "superior " 84/85 petcock is in order?
Will do as soon as this dinosaur gives up the ghost. Right now it seems to work just fine.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

andyb

#13
September 22, 2012, 07:14:46 PM
Did it crank and cough, crank and not cough, or not crank?

FJmonkey

#14
September 22, 2012, 07:25:07 PM
Quote from: andyb on September 22, 2012, 07:14:46 PM
Did it crank and cough, crank and not cough, or not crank?
Crank and not cough....
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side
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