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84 FJ; What 17" front wheels will work?

Started by E Double, August 12, 2009, 08:35:42 PM

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E Double

August 12, 2009, 08:35:42 PM
Hello all,

I've been seeing that FZR1000 front wheels work for the later FJ1200's, but what will work on my 84?  I would imagine some of the early GSX-R wheels would work but I haven't a clue where to begin with that, and haven't the time nor inclination to experiment.   I just want to run radials and have a bit less sidewall to contend with up front.   Eventually I'd like to do the rear as well, but I like to burn my bridges one at a time.  Costs less too.   Cheers for any help.

                                                                                  Dennis
There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating: people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.
  
    Oscar Wilde

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Pat Conlon

#1
August 12, 2009, 11:13:57 PM
Hello Dennis, welcome amigo! Good to see you have the best FJ...the classic, most beautymus '84!
Unfortunately several things need to happen before you can loose your '84's pig heavy, narrow 16" rim and pig heavy double vented rotors.
What you need to do to run the front 17x3.5" 87/88 FZR rim is to:
1) Replace your lower fork sliders with later model ('89+) FJ lower sliders. If you wish you can reuse your '84's stanchion tubes. Good time to add heavier springs, cartridge emulators new oem seals. eBay is your friend.
Reason: The mounting points for the brake calipers you will need to use on the new single faced 298mm rotors won't work on your existing '84 sliders. Wrong location. '89+ sliders = Right location.
2) Get some YZF R-1 blue spot calipers and a FJR 14mm master cylinder (m/c) Using your existing 5/8" m/c with the blue spots results in a very heavy brake lever, a much better feel with a 14mm m/c.
3) Get some '89+ FJ (298mm) single face rotors.
4) Reuse your existing front fender, axle, spacers and speedo drive.

FYI Here's what it will look like when you are done: http://tinyurl.com/5swvzh

You will be wonderfully surprised at the better stopping and handling this mod will do for your '84.

Cheers and welcome again..
Pat Conlon, Palm Desert, CA
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

E Double

#2
August 13, 2009, 02:03:28 AM
Pat,

     Thanks for the info!

                    Dennis
There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating: people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.
  
    Oscar Wilde

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threejagsteve

#3
August 13, 2009, 03:18:54 AM
"If you wanna bark with the big dogs, you can't pee with the puppies!"

higbonzo

#4
August 13, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
this may still be available....

http://fjowners.com/index.php?topic=284.0

later..

racerman_27410

#5
August 13, 2009, 11:39:04 AM

that is such a clean ride MR Conlon........  :good2:


Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 12, 2009, 11:13:57 PM
Hello Dennis, welcome amigo! Good to see you have the best FJ...the classic, most beautymus '84!
Unfortunately several things need to happen before you can loose your '84's pig heavy, narrow 16" rim and pig heavy double vented rotors.
What you need to do to run the front 17x3.5" 87/88 FZR rim is to:
1) Replace your lower fork sliders with later model ('89+) FJ lower sliders. If you wish you can reuse your '84's stanchion tubes. Good time to add heavier springs, cartridge emulators new oem seals. eBay is your friend.
Reason: The mounting points for the brake calipers you will need to use on the new single faced 298mm rotors won't work on your existing '84 sliders. Wrong location. '89+ sliders = Right location.
2) Get some YZF R-1 blue spot calipers and a FJR 14mm master cylinder (m/c) Using your existing 5/8" m/c with the blue spots results in a very heavy brake lever, a much better feel with a 14mm m/c.
3) Get some '89+ FJ (298mm) single face rotors.
4) Reuse your existing front fender, axle, spacers and speedo drive.

FYI Here's what it will look like when you are done: http://tinyurl.com/5swvzh
You will be wonderfully surprised at the better stopping and handling this mod will do for your '84.

Cheers and welcome again..
Pat Conlon, Palm Desert, CA

Pat Conlon

#6
August 13, 2009, 01:52:40 PM
Thanks Frank, coming from the FJ master himself, means a lot.
Since that picture, I've made several other mods to my '84. YZF1000 rear and FZR USD front.
Here's a shot Marsh took at our last WCR, being at night, it's not a clear picture.
http://tinyurl.com/lhmxxu



Dennis beware: This FJ modification bug is serious stuff....It starts off sooo innocently...

Quote from: racerman_27410 on August 13, 2009, 11:39:04 AM

that is such a clean ride MR Conlon........  :good2:


1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

threejagsteve

#7
August 13, 2009, 02:49:32 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 13, 2009, 01:52:40 PM

This FJ modification bug is serious stuff....It starts off sooo innocently...


Are the blue spot calipers superior to the YZF750 6-pot calipers, which I gather will also bolt on to later sliders?
"If you wanna bark with the big dogs, you can't pee with the puppies!"

the fan

#8
August 13, 2009, 06:03:59 PM
yes. Power is similar, but the monoblocs (blue dots) are considerably lighter. I tried a set of 6 pots on my YZF600 and a set of "blue dots" on my YZF600 and the 6pots went back to ebay.

racerman_27410

#9
August 13, 2009, 07:55:27 PM

LOL i'm no master.... just extremely lucky and determined  :yahoo:

My goodness..... its probably for the best that picture of your FJ was taken at night..... a daytime shot of all those shiney bits might have blinded me  :biggrin:

mods are kewl.... what else are we going to do besides work on our FJ's .. sit around and watch TV ????????

Kookaloo!


Quote from: Pat Conlon on August 13, 2009, 01:52:40 PM
Thanks Frank, coming from the FJ master himself, means a lot.
Since that picture, I've made several other mods to my '84. YZF1000 rear and FZR USD front.
Here's a shot Marsh took at our last WCR, being at night, it's not a clear picture.
http://tinyurl.com/lhmxxu

Dennis beware: This FJ modification bug is serious stuff....It starts off sooo innocently...

Quote from: racerman_27410 on August 13, 2009, 11:39:04 AM

that is such a clean ride MR Conlon........  :good2:


FeralJuggernaut

#10
August 13, 2009, 11:06:52 PM
Paddy!!   What are you doing!?!   You are going scare away the new guy showing off like that!    :sarcastic:    First the red and silver, then throw in all the bonus shiny bits, he is going to give up before his Modifier's Anonymous card even shows up in mail.    :lol:

FYI, it looks like your front tire is cupped.   :P   and where is that decal that goes on the chin fairing?   muwhahaha


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threejagsteve

#11
August 14, 2009, 01:05:40 AM
Quote from: the fan on August 13, 2009, 06:03:59 PM
yes. Power is similar, but the monoblocs (blue dots) are considerably lighter. I tried a set of 6 pots on my YZF600 and a set of "blue dots" on my YZF600 and the 6pots went back to ebay.

Thanks, the fan! Useful to know (for the future... ;) ).
"If you wanna bark with the big dogs, you can't pee with the puppies!"

E Double

#12
August 14, 2009, 10:53:09 PM
Well, mine is definitely not as mint as yours (omfg I wish) but I can't kick too hard; http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/99BWGN7JHMbWjEswCzjiRg?feat=directlink.  I haven't figured out where this forum's photo uploader is yet, so here is a link to the pics of the bike and where I ride/have ridden, starting from today;  http://picasaweb.google.com/brwnsoxx/TheMotorcycleChronicles?feat=directlink   
There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating: people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.
  
    Oscar Wilde

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