chain questions

cyclenutk75 · July 06, 2012, 01:32:27 PM

Quote from: andyb on July 06, 2012, 08:00:39 AM

Really? Because even EK themselves say that they don't make them.

On their lesser chains yes. The ZZZ is/was their flagship model, and it is not offered with a clip link that I've ever seen nor heard of.

Yup. I shit you not. I say again....I'd just invest in a rivet tool. In fact, I did.

Yamifj1200 · July 06, 2012, 05:45:34 PM

"smart consumers simply go around it as you intend to do and buy online"

And really smart consumers install their own chains and save the 35 bux.... for a tank of gas and lunch...

Eric M

Dan Filetti · July 06, 2012, 06:20:08 PM

Quote from: Yamifj1200 on July 06, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
"smart consumers simply go around it as you intend to do and buy online"

And really smart consumers install their own chains and save the 35 bux.... for a tank of gas and lunch...

Eric M

True. but we are a handy bunch with tools and know-how. MANY, in fact most motorcyclists, are not fortunate/ tooled up/ skilled/ brave... enough to even attempt it and other such mods, and are at the mercy of the bike shops. These are the folks that keep these shops in business I'm thinking.

Dan

WestOzXJR · July 06, 2012, 11:07:30 PM

Quote from: Yamifj1200 on July 06, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
And really smart consumers install their own chains and save the 35 bux.... for a tank of gas and lunch...

That would depend entirely on what value you place on your own time.

fj11.5 · July 07, 2012, 04:27:02 AM

may as well pay the $35, still a decent saving , and if they ruin the chain and cut it too short , fair chance they should cash up for another one , , you stuff it up, its an expensive chain

FJ Flyer · July 07, 2012, 07:54:42 AM

Quote from: WestOzXJR on July 06, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
Quote from: Yamifj1200 on July 06, 2012, 05:45:34 PM
And really smart consumers install their own chains and save the 35 bux.... for a tank of gas and lunch...

That would depend entirely on what value you place on your own time.

It also gives you the opportunity to check your sprockets, swingarm, etc. to add to the piece of mind that it was (hopefully) done right.

carsick · July 07, 2012, 04:34:37 PM

Quote from: delarbreavous on July 06, 2012, 10:08:21 AM

525zvm-x chain 110 links,

The master link will be the least of your problems if you order a 525. FJ takes a 530.

yamaha fj rider · July 10, 2012, 08:39:06 PM

If you go to a shop and buy a part normally some one helps you with some expertise. Making sure you get the right part recommending things that will help, yes you will pay a little more for this service but it can be worth it. Also you can ask for a discount if some one asked nicely I used to give them all the time. Tell them you can buy it cheaper from another business but would rather buy it here can you give me a better price many times they will say yes and have it now. Be ready to prove the price and if it is mail order they make you wait for the part not letting you have the on the . Hope this helps.

Kurt

Arnie · July 10, 2012, 09:27:48 PM

Sure, that can happen. More common is that you walk into a shop or parts counter and some pimply faced kid comes up to serve you. When they ask what you're riding and you say FJ 1200, they look at you funny and ask, "Who makes that?" or "Sorry, we don't do antiques here" or "My parts fische (or listing) doesn't go back that far".
When you tell them what you can get the part for online, they just laugh weakly and say, there's no way to begin to match that price, but don't you really want us to order it for you? You pay up front and it takes twice as long to get it than it would if you ordered it yourself.

Arnie

Quote from: yamaha fj rider on July 10, 2012, 08:39:06 PM
If you go to a shop and buy a part normally some one helps you with some expertise. Making sure you get the right part recommending things that will help, yes you will pay a little more for this service but it can be worth it. Also you can ask for a discount if some one asked nicely I used to give them all the time. Tell them you can buy it cheaper from another business but would rather buy it here can you give me a better price many times they will say yes and have it now. Be ready to prove the price and if it is mail order they make you wait for the part not letting you have the on the . Hope this helps.

Kurt

tmkaos · July 10, 2012, 09:51:19 PM

Quote from: Arnie on July 10, 2012, 09:27:48 PM
Sure, that can happen. More common is that you walk into a shop or parts counter and some pimply faced kid comes up to serve you. When they ask what you're riding and you say FJ 1200, they look at you funny and ask, "Who makes that?" or "Sorry, we don't do antiques here" or "My parts fische (or listing) doesn't go back that far".
When you tell them what you can get the part for online, they just laugh weakly and say, there's no way to begin to match that price, but don't you really want us to order it for you? You pay up front and it takes twice as long to get it than it would if you ordered it yourself.

Arnie

Quote from: yamaha fj rider on July 10, 2012, 08:39:06 PM
If you go to a shop and buy a part normally some one helps you with some expertise. Making sure you get the right part recommending things that will help, yes you will pay a little more for this service but it can be worth it. Also you can ask for a discount if some one asked nicely I used to give them all the time. Tell them you can buy it cheaper from another business but would rather buy it here can you give me a better price many times they will say yes and have it now. Be ready to prove the price and if it is mail order they make you wait for the part not letting you have the on the . Hope this helps.

Kurt

+1 on that.. I can't remeber the last time I got served at an auto parts store/hardware store/paint shop/insert any place here where the person behind the counter actually knew about the product I was after without asking a supervisor or consulting a book. I think it was sometime in the late 90's..

I reckon you are far better off making an informed decision and ordering yourself online.

soundmindryan · July 11, 2012, 08:19:28 AM

Lately this holds true with just about anywhere you go. Whether it be the bike shop, the auto parts store, the music store, or the electronics store. You'd expect the people that WORK there to be the experts, but when you walk in and you know more than the guy behind the counter, it can be frustrating. Although, in truth, with the help of a few minutes on the internet, any of us can learn enough to know more than the counter guy. Especially on specialized stuff like FJs. I've found that by asking around the service bays, you can usually find someone to say, "Yeah, I think Bob in the back has messed around with those old bikes." Bob's your guy.
Just sayin'.

yamaha fj rider · July 13, 2012, 02:34:44 AM

Must be different here I have known the parts manager at my local Yamaha dealer for over twenty years. Long before he was the PM when he was delivery person for a local distributor. I guess if look there are still some good help out there. When you fined them keep going back to the same person. Lots of the time it's cheaper to hire young kids who do not know very than some one with experience and knowledge.

Kurt

delarbreavous · August 13, 2012, 05:27:08 PM

So I Went for it and bought a zvmx530 (yes Doug, I bought a 530! ;-).) with the proper link, I also bought the two sprockets and a new
Locking washer. Called the dealer told them my buddies bought me a chain for my birthday and asked if they could install it, they said yes! I also asked if they had the proper tool for that chain,went through the DID website and the zvmx chains can only be installed with the KM500R rivetting tool or you have to change the pin on the old models or the km501e for the km500r pin.

Will investigate at dealer.

Alain

Fun info: cost of a DID 50ZL chain at the dealer... 482.49$

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