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Started by fjfanatic, May 08, 2012, 09:05:57 AM

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mz_rider

Quote from: fj11.5 on June 08, 2012, 06:15:09 PM
Quote from: jykkeh on June 08, 2012, 02:44:31 PM
These are my bike brakes, no i can tell you, i have brakes.


what calipers are they , I've seen  ones like those on eBay  off a Suzuki ?? wondered if they would be as good as blue dots or better

They look like 6 pot Sumitomo calipers from the YZF750/1000. I've got a pair on my newer FJ. My old FJ has blue spots and the 6 pots are better - lots of power & feel. Buy a pair if you find them. They are a straight bolt on for FJs with 4 pot calipers. 

Stuart

fj11.5

nice, thanks , I thought they may have been early hayabusa ones
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

JCainFJ

There are some problems with using the 6 pot Sumitomo calipers from the YZF750/FZR1000.
They weigh a ton, much heavier then the blue or gold spots. They do not fit, the friction material on the pads overlaps the edge of the rotor. Every thing will be good until the overlapped area of the pads touch, then not so good! They also ware the brake pads to a taper (thin at the outer edge). You will also need the master from the downer bike. 12 pots need the larger bore master. I had a set on my FJ before I got my first set of blue spots.  They are very nice looking calipers, but they are not better brakes then a sorted pair of blue (or gold) spots. Yamaha abandoned them for the blue spots on the YZF's starting in 97, even the R1's ( a much faster motorcycle then the  YZF750/FZR1000 ) used the blue spots.

fj11.5

good info , thank you j Cain , explains why pretty much everyone on here uses blue / gold spots, , think ill keep the blues I have, best brakes I've used ,, wanted some soon as I took a mates r1 for a ride
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

MyFirstNameIsPaul

The last time I saw a MotoGP bike it used 4-piston calipers (granted, carbon fiber, but still), and the same for a World Superbike. I tend to think of 6-piston calipers as a product of 90s penis envy.

Dads_FJ

John S.

'84 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1200
'94 Yamaha WR250
'80 BMW R100S/Sidecar
'39 BSA WM20

fj11.5

125 British pounds, must charge by the piston  :lol:,, they look good though  (popcorn)
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

yamaha fj rider

Quote from: JCainFJ on June 11, 2012, 11:13:43 AM
There are some problems with using the 6 pot Sumitomo calipers from the YZF750/FZR1000.
They weigh a ton, much heavier then the blue or gold spots. They do not fit, the friction material on the pads overlaps the edge of the rotor. Every thing will be good until the overlapped area of the pads touch, then not so good! They also ware the brake pads to a taper (thin at the outer edge). You will also need the master from the downer bike. 12 pots need the larger bore master. I had a set on my FJ before I got my first set of blue spots.  They are very nice looking calipers, but they are not better brakes then a sorted pair of blue (or gold) spots. Yamaha abandoned them for the blue spots on the YZF's starting in 97, even the R1's ( a much faster motorcycle then the  YZF750/FZR1000 ) used the blue spots.

Once again you are an invaluable source of information. Thank's for the info looks cool but not the best. Just to let you know I bought a set of gold spots off of a 02 R1 working on lines and master cylinder. Thank you !!! again.

Kurt
93 FJ1200
FJ 09
YZ250X I still love 2 strokes
Tenere 700
FJR1300ES

JCainFJ

Kurt,

You will like those brakes! Stock pads? Thats what I use.

FJ Flyer

And use the stock R1 drilled caliper bolts. 
Chris P.
'16 FJR1300ES
'87 FJ1200
'76 DT250

Wear your gear.


yamaha fj rider

Quote from: FJ Flyer on June 13, 2012, 06:43:51 AM
And use the stock R1 drilled caliper bolts. 

Caliper bolts? why change the caliper bolts? :scratch_one-s_head:

Thank's Kurt
93 FJ1200
FJ 09
YZ250X I still love 2 strokes
Tenere 700
FJR1300ES

Pat Conlon

A light weight monoblock caliper deserves light weight bolts....less unsprung weight.... very easy to drill and safety wire for track days....
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

yamaha fj rider

Ko makes perfect sense to me. You are just faster, more high tech than I am but I will catch up. Ordered the stainless hardware kit off ebay this week should be here tomorrow. They were asking $45.00 I placed a bid for $40.00 and it was accepted plus the $8.00 shipping.

Kurt   
93 FJ1200
FJ 09
YZ250X I still love 2 strokes
Tenere 700
FJR1300ES

jykkeh

Six pot calibers like this   

FJ Flyer

Quote from: Pat Conlon on June 14, 2012, 07:22:24 PM
A light weight monoblock caliper deserves light weight bolts....less unsprung weight.... very easy to drill and safety wire for track days....

Also, they are designed for operating with the heat of breaking.  Suppose the FJ bolts would be okay, stay away from stainess.  IIR the words of Hippie Cain, they are too brittle.
Chris P.
'16 FJR1300ES
'87 FJ1200
'76 DT250

Wear your gear.