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New oil cooler and spin on filter

Started by Tengu, March 10, 2012, 07:26:01 AM

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Tengu

Ordered RPMs new cooler kit and the spin on adaptor
Spent a few hours pulling the bike apart and had a ball
I only have a few comments:
The exhaust is a serious pain in the rear to remove and reinstall!
I sliced my thumb on the thread of the spin on oil filter adaptor!

I will find out tomorrow how the oil cooler runs, but it was simple enough to install. I think anyone with a hint of mechanical experience should have no hassles at all, and RPMs pictorial instructions are straight forward.
The braided steel oil lines fit ok, if a bit tight, and Im not sure they fit real well in the bracket that holds them in front of the engine, at the moment they touch the exhaust pipes, so I need to play with the way they sit tomorrow when its light again

The spin on filter adaptor was damn simple to put on (even without instructions)
I went looking for oil filters (I did get one from RPM - although it is white!)
Supercheap auto couldnt find one to match the WIX51347 that I got from RPM. A couple of Ryco's that were there were the right size and shape, but the thread on the adaptor wouldnt fit them
Are there any Aussies that know where I can get replacement spin on filters that wil fit (other than ordering from RPM, which isnt the worst option!)

Thanks Randy! Good stuff and great service as usual.

racerrad8

Quote from: Tengu on March 10, 2012, 07:26:01 AM

The braided steel oil lines fit ok, if a bit tight, and Im not sure they fit real well in the bracket that holds them in front of the engine, at the moment they touch the exhaust pipes, so I need to play with the way they sit tomorrow when its light again

Thanks Randy! Good stuff and great service as usual.

Refer to #5 of the instructions and remove the bracket from the front of the engine. The hoses are not designed to be held by that bracket. The other issue with trying to tie the steel braided hoses to the bracket is the unwanted tension on the oil cooler itself.

Once you get the bracket off, then you will be able to loosen the upper fittings and gain the clearnce at the header.

If you have any further questions, please let me know.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Mike Ramos

Good morning Tengu,

I have had my 1991 FJ 1200 for over over 3 years and the first modification I made was the oil filter adaptor (after the 2nd or 3rd oil change). The filter that I use is a NAPA 7046. The Wix equivalent is 57046. It does have the important anti-drain back valve. They are generally black, but on occasion I do end up with a white filter - I understand it depends on which factory they were manufactured.

As soon as they became available from RPM, I installed an oil cooler as well (my original oil lines were in very poor shape). I did question the new routing of the oil lines as well, however it has become a non-issue. The new unit appears to be of the highest quality, looks good and the braided lines & fittings are definitely top shelf. Originally I thought that black anodized fittings would have looked better, but everybody says that the contrast of the silver hoses with the colored fittings really looks nice. And everybody can't be wrong...!

I installed both an oil pressure and oil temperature gauge. It is still cool weather here in northern California, but cruising around in temperatures as low as the mid-thirties, the oil heats up to 170-180 and just stays there. With the arrival of hotter weather, I expect the oil cooler to perform as well at the high end of the spectrum.

If your experience is the same as mine, and I am sure it will be, both of the changes will be most productive.

Regards,

Mike Ramos.

simi_ed

The oil filter from Randy's kit uses the same filter as a 2001 Honda Accord.  That may make it easier for the auto parts folks to match up.
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racerrad8

Let me expound on the topic of removing the factory bracket and allow the RPM braided hoses to not be secured when installing the RPM cooler kit.

The reason that mounting bracket is attached to the factory cooler system is to prevent vibration that will crack the steel portion of the O.E. cooler lines.

The braided hoses will never crack because the are flexible, but if they are secured and put undo tension on the cooler it cause the cooler to crack.

The braided hose itself is not very flexible and will hold its position once the fittings are tightened. This allows for the expansion due to temperature change and flex between the engine and frame.

I know that since they were attached from the factory, the thought is they should still be attached. If I was using a steel tube component within the line then it would have to be secured.

So, remove that bracket and put it in the box with all of the other O.E. parts you have removed during for upgrades.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

fj11.5

ryco z144 fit on , just paint them black, they're usually grey , supercheap sell them among others , auto barn ect
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Tengu

Randy, thanks for that, I actually removed the bracket this morning in the cold hard light of day  :good2:

Fj11.5 thanks I will check them out again

Tengu

Randy, a question...
The oil cooler lines rest against the exhaust pipes unless I place them behind the old line bracket, and when tucked behind the bracket the clearance is still only about 5mm (1/4 inch)
I have the front of the bracket / clamp removed completely

I can't get them to sit any other way, and I'm trying to be gentle to avoid damaging the fittings / connections

racerrad8

Quote from: Tengu on March 10, 2012, 05:38:14 PM
Randy, a question...
The oil cooler lines rest against the exhaust pipes unless I place them behind the old line bracket, and when tucked behind the bracket the clearance is still only about 5mm (1/4 inch)
I have the front of the bracket / clamp removed completely

I can't get them to sit any other way, and I'm trying to be gentle to avoid damaging the fittings / connections

You need to completely remove the O.E. oil line bracket from the engine. Also you need to make sure that you have the 30 degree hose end attached to the cooler, this is the hose end with less of a bend in it as noted in the photo #23 of the instructions.

Once you remove the bracket, and confirm the hoses are installed correctly, the fitting/hose will rotate away from the exhaust. You want to rotate it away from the exhaust so that you can get the maximum amount of clearance.

The clearance of the fitting from the exhaust is about 3/8" when installed correctly. You might need to loosen the lower brackets and reposition the cooler if the clearance is closer on one side or the other.

Randy - RPM

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Tengu

Well all is grand with the world... apart from the first test where oil went everywhere (inc back tyre ha!) but that was all my fault as the fitting came loose whilst I was working on the oil lines and I didnt retighten it!

Took it for a ride after double checking everything and very happy. The bike got hot but not over hot (considering its a 30 deg day) - it was worth the wait

Thanks Randy

oldktmdude

Ryco Z148A oil filters are cheap and easy to find. I found another brand that was already black but can't remember the manufacturer.  Regards, Pete.
1985 FJ1100 x2 (1 sold)
2009 TDM 900
1980 Kawasaki Z1R Mk11 (sold and still regretting it)
1979 Kawasaki Z650 (sold)
1985 Suzuki GSXR 400 x2 (next project)
2001 KTM 520 exc (sold)
2004 GasGas Ec300
1981 Honda CB 900 F (sold)
1989 Kawasaki GPX 600 Adventure

Tron

Isn't there a K&N oil filter that fits the adaptor?
You're messing with my Zen thing man.

Yamifj1200

Quote from: Tron on March 11, 2012, 05:42:58 AM
Isn't there a K&N oil filter that fits the adaptor?



Yes, the K&N  HP-1005 fits the spin on adapter. It comes painted white, I just scuff them up with a scotchbrite pad and give em a coat of black paint. I also lke the fact the K&N filters have a exposed hex head on the end of the filter which makes changes much easier.. HTH

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racerrad8

Quote from: Tron on March 11, 2012, 05:42:58 AM
Isn't there a K&N oil filter that fits the adaptor?

Yep, I have a chrome one in stock; K&N Filter

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

FJmonkey

Quote from: racerrad8 on March 11, 2012, 04:38:38 PM
Yep, I have a chrome one in stock; K&N Filter
Randy - RPM
That would be so fitting if their oil filters are as bad as their air filters.  :rofl2:
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

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