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Grip heater circuit

Started by Dads_FJ, February 24, 2012, 07:26:51 AM

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rktmanfj

Quote from: SlowOldGuy on February 27, 2012, 10:03:10 AM
Hey Chris,
Didn't mean to pick on you.  I was talking about this problem with EEs here at work and they claimed that (more resistance) = (more heat).

I argued the math (V=IR, P=I^2R, etc) and they just seemed to get confused.  At that point I figured it was a software problem, so I called the help desk.  :-)

DavidR.

Adding more resistance would mean more heat in the resistor, but less in the gloves, yes?

glfredrick

I would suggest wiring everything up on the bench and testing it before taking all the time on the bike.

Mark Olson

Hey dads fj.

the wiring looks good .

for the lectrical challenged keep it simple .  more resistance =less amps  ....... less resistance =higher amps.....  higher amps = mo' heat.
Mark O.
86 fj1200
sac ca.

                           " Get off your ass and Ride"

SlowOldGuy

Quote from: rktmanfj on February 27, 2012, 10:06:29 AM

Adding more resistance would mean more heat in the resistor, but less in the gloves, yes?

Randy,
The grip heating elements ARE the resistors.

DavidR.

rktmanfj

Quote from: SlowOldGuy on February 27, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: rktmanfj on February 27, 2012, 10:06:29 AM

Adding more resistance would mean more heat in the resistor, but less in the gloves, yes?

Randy,
The grip heating elements ARE the resistors.

DavidR.

Do some setups not use switched resistors to adjust the heat?

Dads_FJ

Quote from: rktmanfj on February 27, 2012, 03:31:56 PM
Quote from: SlowOldGuy on February 27, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: rktmanfj on February 27, 2012, 10:06:29 AM

Adding more resistance would mean more heat in the resistor, but less in the gloves, yes?

Randy,
The grip heating elements ARE the resistors.

DavidR.

Do some setups not use switched resistors to adjust the heat?

This model uses dual heating elements http://pollyheaters.com/ph400.htm  However I already ordered the ph300 single element.  My plan is to hook them up without drilling holes etc... before I mount them permanently.
John S.

'84 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1200
'94 Yamaha WR250
'80 BMW R100S/Sidecar
'39 BSA WM20

fj11.5

Oxford heated grips, with heat control would save you any gue (popcorn)ss work
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Dan Filetti

Quote from: fj11.5 on February 27, 2012, 08:39:51 PM
Oxford heated grips, with heat control would save you any gue (popcorn)ss work

+1. I've been thinking the same thing throughout this entire thread. Yeah, you could build your own and save a few bucks, but it IS only a "few bucks". Oxfords can be had for like 35 bucks....
Live hardy, or go home. 

fj11.5

Exactly , I paid $120 for the original pair , the second gen ones with heat control were $70 a few years ago, so as you said , wouldnt be saving much,  (popcorn)
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Dads_FJ

Quote from: fj11.5 on February 27, 2012, 09:37:37 PM
Exactly , I paid $120 for the original pair , the second gen ones with heat control were $70 a few years ago, so as you said , wouldnt be saving much,  (popcorn)

Pretty much the story of my life, trying to save a few bucks but usually costs more in the long run.  Usually because I'll dick around with a project (having fun at the same time though), but end up buying something like Oxford grips recommended here!  You'd think I'd learn.  I bought the Pollys for $21 to my door, so I figure I'm not too far in the hole yet.  Still it's all fun...
John S.

'84 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1200
'94 Yamaha WR250
'80 BMW R100S/Sidecar
'39 BSA WM20

fj11.5

Nothing wrong with making your own stuff , especially if it works, never thought of making heated grips  (popcorn)
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Dan Filetti

Quote from: Dan Filetti on February 27, 2012, 08:57:00 PM
Quote from: fj11.5 on February 27, 2012, 08:39:51 PM
Oxford heated grips, with heat control would save you any gue (popcorn)ss work

+1. I've been thinking the same thing throughout this entire thread. Yeah, you could build your own and save a few bucks, but it IS only a "few bucks". Oxfords can be had for like 35 bucks....

I miss spoke, I did not get the Oxfords, I got a set like these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YAMAHA-HONDA-KAWASAKI-SUZUKI-GRIP-HEATERS-/320770949359?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item4aaf7040ef

I see even cheaper ones on eBay as well.

FYI,

Dan
Live hardy, or go home. 

ribbert

My Oxford grips are coming up for their 4th winter and have about 45,000 k's on them.  If they died tomorrow I'd still reckon they were fantastic value.  And if they did die tomorrow I'd be at the shop for a new pair before the old ones had even cooled.
Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

carey

Dan,

That link was for Symtec grip heaters.  I've installed many sets of them.  There was a set on my FJ when I sold it.  Garth, are they still working?

Carey

ddlewis

Quote from: carey on February 28, 2012, 06:25:11 PM
Dan,

That link was for Symtec grip heaters.  I've installed many sets of them.  There was a set on my FJ when I sold it.  Garth, are they still working?

Carey

Yep they rock.   I just bought another set, dual star branded but same thing.