Where is this road?

[SlowOldGuy]

Personally I think drifting is lame, but I'd like to get some time on this road:

Motorcycle vs. Car Drift Battle 2

DavidR.

[FeralRdr]

That's Maryhill Loop Road: http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Unknown+road&daddr=Unknown+road&hl=en&ll=45.717447,-120.783691&spn=0.048121,0.132093&sll=45.723529,-120.80133&sspn=0.012029,0.033023&geocode=FcqBuQIdo9HM-A%3BFfa2uQIdZKTM-A&vpsrc=6&mra=me&mrsp=1,0&sz=16&t=h&z=14.

It's located in Washington State about 100 miles East of Portland in the Columbia River Gorge.  It's a private road that is occasionally rented out for various activities to include motorcycling events.  Infact, SoundRider.com: http://www.soundrider.com Reserves it for their annual Sportbike NW Rally, which is held each summer in Stevenson, WA.

[devilman]

sorry i thought i saw that you thought drifting was lame? so, that much skill, throttle control and balance is lame? i'd love to be that lame, i really would.....

[Marsh White]

Wow - that is one amazingly well produced, shot and edited video!!       The riding and driving was pretty good too... 

[SlowOldGuy]

Sorry,
Clarification:
CAR drifting as a sport is lame. 
The guys riding bikes were incredible.

DavidR.

[RichBaker]

I've gotta agree with Dr. Ratfart...... Drifting is LAME.

[devilman]

Lame you may say but still not easy. As a British citizen i'd say baseball was lamer but i'd say it very quietly and facing the corne with my hand over my mouth so no one would hear me. 

[RichBaker]

In cars, it's incredibly lame, on bikes, skilled but still lame....  It takes more skill to go fast without getting excessive wheel spin, you don't see the MotoGP guys doing it.   It IS fun, when out riding, to light the tire up thru a turn, but to go truly fast, wheelspin doesn't work.... And these days, I can't afford to go thru  tires that way   

[devilman]

In cars, it's incredibly lame, on bikes, skilled but still lame....  It takes more skill to go fast without getting excessive wheel spin, you don't see the MotoGP guys doing it.   It IS fun, when out riding, to light the tire up thru a turn, but to go truly fast, wheelspin doesn't work.... And these days, I can't afford to go thru  tires that way   

yes you do, not often on purpose but they still do it and i've seen videos of Stoner doing and Rossi and Malandri. It takes more skill to go fast sideways then not but then it's not about speed as similarly stunt riding isn't but it's still impressive to watch it. IMHO (which isn't actually that humble).

http://youtu.be/8tVSBAbpaEg

[RichBaker]

Not on the straights and not all the way thru the turns.... All the MotoGP bikes have traction control... for a reason. Yeah, I remember the 500CC days, they spun the tires thru just about every turn, because that was the only way they could get them turned. Plus, those 2-smokes were just brutal on tires.  These days, if you can't make the tire last, you won't finish well...

[SlowOldGuy]

 Car drifting and "monster" trucks are both a huge waste of good horsepower.  Both about as exciting as NASCAR (and baseball).

Now, hanging it out sideways through a turn in a rally car  or a sprint car or in MotoGP is some serious skill.

DavidR.

[Brook]

...... agree, car drifting, monster trucks and baseball is exciting to watch as bowling.
I would like to see get in a Nascar and go 200mph with 40 other cars around you, for 2 to3hours...... talking about serious skill.

                      Jeff

[SlowOldGuy]

I would probably do better if I could manage to stay awake for an entire race.  :-)

DavidR

[Brook]

.....I hope your talking about watching,... going 200mph driving, don't think you would have a difficult time staying awake.
  if not, that just goes to show, that you have not watch enough of the races!!

not all racing, has an exciting finsh, every time!!  I know, I have been to many short tracks.

              Jeff

[devilman]

whatever vehicle it's in or on, doing something that is out of the ordinary (driving to the store etc) takes skill, even if you don't like the sport, it takes skill that most of us don't have. I've tried drifting cars and it's bloody hard to catch it at the right time let alone feather the throttle well enough to keep the slide.The same goes with nascar for me, i find the fact it's mostly on an oval to be somewhat tedious (throw a few different bends in there too) but i admire the guys that do it for having the balls big enough.

We all have different opinions and whether we personally 'like' something is part of whether we appreciate the skill but what makes all the difference is appreciating the skill of people doing something we don't personally enjoy.