Removed her heart...

[Pat Conlon]

True story: As the Finance Minister descends the steps of the Capitol House, Klavdy, dressed in his leopard skin tunic, sunglasses and fez, steps forward to shake the Finance Minister's hand and, in front of the assembled press corp, Klavdy proclaims loudly...."He NEVER touched that child..."

The Finance Minister laughed his ass off......(a good thing too)

You guys really have to meet this creature.....really.

[Flynt]

I'll share the teasing...

Marc at FP says they're at 32Hp over a stock bike with upgraded exhaust...  also says you'll be at GSXR1000 power with much more mid-range and torque.

Raul tells me the dyno broke and they'll get the parts to fix Monday.  Still working on the tune once they get the dyno back up...  I should get her back next week.

So if stock was 111.8Hp at the wheel, a decent pipe would add 10% or so to get to about 125Hp, add 32Hp and we'd be at ~157Hp at the wheel or ~182Hp crank.  Roughly 40% more power with 14% more displacement...  great work Randy!

So my story...  Randy's build broke the FP dyno   

Frank

[JMR]

 My 1314 made about 145 with FCR-39's....and was tuned like crap.

[Pat Conlon]

The person With the closest numbers gets a free brewski at the Petaluma WCR
I'll start....I predict 155-160 rwhp with 102-107 ft.lbs torque

......So if stock was 111.8Hp at the wheel, a decent pipe would add 10% or so to get to about 125Hp, add 32Hp and we'd be at ~157Hp at the wheel or ~182Hp crank.  

Yum....I can already taste that ice cold O'Douls ......It's all that additional TORQUE that I really notice (with my riding style)

Shame on Randy...breaking a perfectly good dyno..... Congrats Frank!  Hope you can post a graph.  Pat

[Flynt]

Ready for pickup tomorrow... 

I'm told she's 40+Hp over stock with pipe.  Raul is very complimentary of Randy's 1349cc pump...  he used the words "scary fast" more than once.

Planning to pick her up and take the long way back to San Jose to renew our relationship...  supposed to be mid 70's here tomorrow. 

I'll post comparison dyno charts when I have them.  He tells me the final dyno number is 130 something, so the stocker is coming in at <90Hp at the wheel on a FP dyno (vs 111.8WHp spec when these were new bikes)...  all relative ya know.

Frank

BTW - he actually mentioned that it's a good thing I have the stiffer USD forks to handle the added power...   

[Pat Conlon]

Don't rile up Mike....actually it's a good thing you have that beefy tosdada YZF1000 T-Ace swing arm and big back axle..

I can only imagine how the '92's oem FJ swing arm would bend with all your torque....

Cheers Frank...I'm looking forward to the graphs....Don't forget to get your final FCR settings.... Did they change the cam timing?

[racerman_27410]

the actual HP numbers dont really mean a lot on the street (least not where i ride).... its that monster torque that stretches your arms as the Keihin's instant throttle response snaps your neck!

of course a top end HP rush that blurs your vision aint so bad either 


KOokaloo!

[Mark Olson]

don't count your beer yet pat , the final numbers are yet to come.

[Pat Conlon]

don't count your beer yet pat , the final numbers are yet to come.

Yea, I see that. My mistake was that the Factory Pro dynos read ~20-25% lower than the Dyno Jet dynos... Oh well...

I do want to see Frank's torque curve and numbers... that is more meaningful for street performance than peak HP numbers.

[Flynt]

OK, so here's the data.  I can't scan right now because the scanner failed and I don't know how to post a graph, but here's the data from FP.
            
RPM   Hp       Tq    Hp - stock +    delta Hp
3000   23.2    40.7      25.3              -2.1
4000   40.9    53.7      44.3              -3.4
5000   57.2    60.1      54.7               2.5
6000   86.5    75.6      72.3              14.2
7000   106.9  80.3      84.9                22
8000   119.3  78.3      94.8              24.5
9000   128.3  74.9      97.5              30.8
9500   130     71.9      94.9              35.1

("stock +" is Kerker full system with Quiet exhaust)

Factory power for the FJ was 111.8WHp reportedly.  To calibrate the numbers above, I'm going to suggest using 1Hp = 111.8/97.5FPWHp (Factory Pro WHP).  Based on that my Hp would be 130(111.8/97.5) or 149WHP.  Using the same ratio you get 92ftlb torque.

I'll send Frank the final jets and adjustments...  now for the fun part.

Just going to tease since the dinner bell is ringing, but the bike is transformed.  The lower RPM range was touchy before and wheelies on accident were common.  Now is is smooth and progressive...  no sudden torque bumps throughout the range.  It revs smoothly and builds power with the twist of your wrist.  Above 4.5K it is getting in the sweet spot as Raul calls it and the torque is really noticeable.  From there on it becomes a blur pretty quickly.

When I delivered the bike it was too lean to hold the dyno load at 6500 RPM!  This is really strange to me since I rev'd the bike plenty.  Under max load it was way too lean to make the power needed, so My mains are a couple sizes up.  They also changed needles for some proprietary profile and changed float height by a couple of mm.

I need to get some new rubber in her before wringing her out thoroughly, but today's ride back was absolutely delightful.  Fucking strong bike make no mistake, but it rides like you'd want with fuel injection like control and smoothness.  I'm pretty much delighted!

Frank         

[FJmonkey]

Moditus and the sweet reward of KOOKALOO!!! Not just a fairytale kiddos.... 

[JMR]

OK, so here's the data.  I can't scan right now because the scanner failed and I don't know how to post a graph, but here's the data from FP.
            
RPM   Hp       Tq    Hp - stock +    delta Hp
3000   23.2    40.7      25.3              -2.1
4000   40.9    53.7      44.3              -3.4
5000   57.2    60.1      54.7               2.5
6000   86.5    75.6      72.3              14.2
7000   106.9  80.3      84.9                22
8000   119.3  78.3      94.8              24.5
9000   128.3  74.9      97.5              30.8
9500   130     71.9      94.9              35.1

("stock +" is Kerker full system with Quiet exhaust)

Factory power for the FJ was 111.8WHp reportedly.  To calibrate the numbers above, I'm going to suggest using 1Hp = 111.8/97.5FPWHp (Factory Pro WHP). Based on that my Hp would be 130(111.8/97.5) or 149WHP.  Using the same ratio you get 92ftlb torque.

I'll send Frank the final jets and adjustments...  now for the fun part.

Just going to tease since the dinner bell is ringing, but the bike is transformed.  The lower RPM range was touchy before and wheelies on accident were common.  Now is is smooth and progressive...  no sudden torque bumps throughout the range.  It revs smoothly and builds power with the twist of your wrist.  Above 4.5K it is getting in the sweet spot as Raul calls it and the torque is really noticeable.  From there on it becomes a blur pretty quickly.

When I delivered the bike it was too lean to hold the dyno load at 6500 RPM!  This is really strange to me since I rev'd the bike plenty.  Under max load it was way too lean to make the power needed, so My mains are a couple sizes up.  They also changed needles for some proprietary profile and changed float height by a couple of mm.

I need to get some new rubber in her before wringing her out thoroughly, but today's ride back was absolutely delightful.  Fucking strong bike make no mistake, but it rides like you'd want with fuel injection like control and smoothness.  I'm pretty much delighted!

Frank         

That sounds right......nice. If I remember correctly you were leaning the bike out secondary to cooler ambient temperature? I always went in the other direction (richen) with cooler temps. Load shows what the engine wants. What was the A/F with the original jetting...16:1 or so? Proprietary needle profile? Still using a Keihin needle I assume....just keeping it a secret.

[Flynt]

Before (No dyno data, bike would not hold a load above 6K RPM):
Main Jets = 148
Slow jets = 55
Slow air mixture screws = 1 & 1/8 out
Air bleed screws =  4 turns out
Float Height = 9mm
Needles = XJR1300 spec

After (130WHp, 80.3 ftlb):
Main Jets = 152
Slow jets = 55
Slow air mixture screws = 1 & 1/4 out
Air bleed screws =  4 turns out
Float Height = 11mm
Needles = FP spec proprietary

racerman's setup worked what I thought was very well.  Im not sure about the "load" thing, but Raul said it was far too lean and would just die when he loaded it up.  They do some stepped increase in speed and load to arrive at power estimates.  

The FP tune has the feeling of a fuel injected engine.  It is POWERFUL!  Raul at FP kept comparing to a Gixxer and was truly impressed with Randy's engine build.  However, it is really much easier to ride now with very linear throttle input especially in the low end.  Once into the zone (4,500 +), it pulls like a rocket booster through 9500 RPM and is just getting stronger.  The wheelie inducing initial torque is moderated, but there if you crank the throttle.  

Anyway, delightful beast at this point.  Hoping to ride her a bit tomorrow.

Frank

[Flynt]

Hoping to ride her a bit tomorrow.

Did a few hours on some familiar roads...  this is a different bike altogether now.  It is rev happy and feels most at home around 6,500-7,000 RPM.  Absolutely no vibration in any rev range.  It's just plain smooth under all conditions.  Low end is tractor like down to 1,000 RPM with smooth roll on no matter where you are RPM-wise.

Then there's the power!  The bike produces a building rush of go from 4,500 RPM that is peaking as you scream toward 10,000 RPM.  Randy has made an efficient and effective pump that just makes more power the faster it spins.  From 80mph in 3rd, 4th, or 5th it takes exactly zero time to be at 105mph...  no drama, very solid, just hauling ass.  Thank god for the suspension and brakes I have...  this power plant could over power stock in a heartbeat.

THIS FUCKING THING SCREAMS!

Frank

[Pat Conlon]

So very cool Frank...Kudos! You did a hell of a job putting it all together. You deserve it. 

Did they leave the cam overlap alone and just do the FCR tuning??  IIRC you have the MegaCycle street grind cams...