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needle and seat part difference,s

Started by fj11.5, October 11, 2011, 11:46:22 PM

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fj11.5

Hi all, I've been given a complete new in packets needle and seat set, other than the center hole , is that the only difference gravity fed and fuel pump parts , as these are for a 93  model , mine is 84
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

Arnie

Yep.  Big hole for gravity, small hole for pump.

Arnie

fj11.5

Cool  thanks, , now to fuel pump. Or drill holes out   :wacko3:
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

andyb

Is the float needle different for the different seat size, or just uses a different portion of the sealing tip?  Iono.


weymouth399

I believe that slowoldguy (David R) has put fuel pump carbs in his bike (85 I think) w/o any mods to the carbs. Fuel inlet will be the only problem and that's not that big of a deal. He says it runs fine.
Maybe he will chime in.

Bob W
84 FJ 1100
86 FJ1200
89 FJ1200
5  FJ POWERED race cars
76 LB80 Chappy
93 KX500 ice for sale
00 KX500 ice/dirt
04 KDX220 dirt for sale
04 KX500 ice
08 KLX450 ice/road
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andyb

David R uses the wrong tires, don't ever listen to him for advice.
:empathy3: :empathy3:

:blum1:

racerrad8

You are working to hard...

You can just use your old brass seats, they never wear out. It is the rubber tip of the needle that wears. You can use the new o-rings from the new seats on the old ones and then use the new needles.

And to answer Andy's question; the needles are all the same, it is just the hole size that changes. Now, with that said the float height had to be set differently as the needle goes deeper into the larger hole to seal.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

andyb

That's what I figured, it'd make the most sense to have just a single needle if possible, fewer parts to stock.

Thanks!

fj11.5

Thanks everyone, makes sence randy, will save trashing the new seats with a drill, ,had a fuel pump for awhile, but had overflow issues,, , what tyres Does David use , they the old Harley style lol , I'm using metzeler and dunlop at the moment, but have a pirelli for the front waiting , so I shouldn't make jokes about hardly desirable,s
unless you ride bikes, I mean really ride bikes, then you just won't get it

84 Fj1100  effie , with mods
( 88 ) Fj 1200  fairly standard , + blue spots
84 Fj1100 absolutely stock standard, now more stock , fitted with Fj12 twin system , no rusted headers for this felicity jayne

SlowOldGuy

The pump-type carbs work so well on my '85 that I totally forgot I had them installed.  I used one of the T fuel fittings from the old set as the single inlet on the new set.  I think Randy offers a replacement fitting for the center carbs which would allow retention of the double inlet setup.

And damnit I can't think of a good come-back to andyb.  :-(

"Oh yeah!  Well I faked mine too!" (name that movie)

DavidR.

Pat Conlon

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Flyover Country Joe

Quote from: andyb on October 13, 2011, 09:07:10 AM
David R uses the wrong tires, don't ever listen to him for advice.
:empathy3: :empathy3:

:blum1:

andyb, You're right about those tires, he uses those tires that don't have any tread on the sides :lol: :bye2:
                                                                        Joe

SlowOldGuy

Hey Joe,
Nice riding with you in Arkansas last week! 

The ticket slowed us down a little, but I really enjoyed the pace.  It allowed me to gain back some confidence I lost after hitting gravel back in the spring.  I'm still a little spooked from that.

Once the ticket clears deferred adjudication hopefully I'll be back up to full speed.

Also, great kid you have there, everyone was impressed with him.

DavidR.


SlowOldGuy

Pat,
"All of Me" with Steve Martin. 

His not-so-great come-back when Madelyn Smith is leaving him and tells him that she faked all of her orgasms.

DavidR.

Flyover Country Joe

David,
  Dan & I really enjoyed meeting  & riding with you guys. When we stopped on Push Mtn. Rd, I explained to him lean forward and look over my inside shoulder, you could tell when the light came on for him. After that, we had a fighting chance of keeping you all in sight. Well, almost :rofl:. I understand what you mean about the gravel, I watched the video you posted from your spring trip. It looked like a high pucker factor moment, for sure.
Dan's mom & I appreciate the positive feedback, we think he's pretty exceptional too! Of course, we might be a little biased....  He is still talking about that 250 Ninja.....I'm not arguing either.... :good2:
                                                                                  Joe